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[Kountzer]

6 hours ago, Hagar said:

From your post, it sounds like you’re following Huss, Jerome, Wesley and Newton, not The Bible.

you just go round & round in circles, but you are a msg board entertainer.  It is to be expected.

[5GallonBucket]

20 hours ago, Kountzer said:

The Bible passage reads "All Scripture is inspired by God"

Who should I believe. you or what the Bible says?

 

Already know, I'm following the Bible.

If you follow” all scripture “ like the single verse you plucked out then you must sacrifice animals as well. Do you or do you not go by Old Testament?

please read the book of Hebrew 

[Kountzer]

46 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

If you follow” all scripture “ like the single verse you plucked out then you must sacrifice animals as well. Do you or do you not go by Old Testament?

please read the book of Hebrew 

Your logic is so convoluted and twisted.  It gives me a head ache.

[LumRaiderFan]

35 minutes ago, Kountzer said:

Your logic is so convoluted and twisted.  It gives me a head ache.

Kountzer , you’re not fooling anyone with your non answers.  You have not given an answer to any question, when challenged....EVER.

The end is near, I know who the Antichrist is, and you’re going to hell for going to Church on Sunday gets tiring, especially when you do such a pathetic job of validating any of it.

[5GallonBucket]

1 hour ago, Kountzer said:

Your logic is so convoluted and twisted.  It gives me a head ache.

Well maybe if you would answer the question(s) your head wouldn’t ache. 

 

30 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Kountzer , you’re not fooling anyone with your non answers.  You have not given an answer to any question, when challenged....EVER.

The end is near, I know who the Antichrist is, and you’re going to hell for going to Church on Sunday gets tiring, especially when you do such a pathetic job of validating any of it.

 

[Kountzer]

I never said anyone was going to hell for going to church on Sunday.  But if you and Hagar and others want to promote that lie go ahead.  That's on you.  

As far as validation, whatever that means to you, if I thought I was not banging my head against concrete I'd put more effort into explaining what I mean.  If you really want to know the information is around.  I tried to whet your appetite for the subject.  but if that doesn't happen no big deal.  Keep doing what you are doing.

[5GallonBucket]

Read Hebrews.

[Kountzer]

Re read and try to understand Hebrews.

[Hagar]

15 hours ago, Kountzer said:

I never said anyone was going to hell for going to church on Sunday.  But if you and Hagar and others want to promote that lie go ahead.  That's on you.  

As far as validation, whatever that means to you, if I thought I was not banging my head against concrete I'd put more effort into explaining what I mean.  If you really want to know the information is around.  I tried to whet your appetite for the subject.  but if that doesn't happen no big deal.  Keep doing what you are doing.

If no one is going to hell for going to Church on Sunday, why do you repeatedly bring it up like it's a game changer?   Seriously, why?

[5GallonBucket]

5 hours ago, Hagar said:

If no one is going to hell for going to Church on Sunday, why do you repeatedly bring it up like it's a game changer?   Seriously, why?

He s enlightened 

[Hagar]

1 hour ago, 5GallonBucket said:

He s enlightened 

I guess.  He makes statements, then whe I ask, he goes all indignant on me.  He constantly says derogatory things about my denomination, but I don’t get angry or indignant with him.   But thinking now, as a whole, those 20 Dem candidates are the most angry 20 people I’ve seen in a while.   Maybe it’s just a prerequisite for being a Democrat?

[Kountzer]

31 minutes ago, Hagar said:

I guess.  He makes statements, then whe I ask, he goes all indignant on me.  He constantly says derogatory things about my denomination, but I don’t get angry or indignant with him.   But thinking now, as a whole, those 20 Dem candidates are the most angry 20 people I’ve seen in a while.   Maybe it’s just a prerequisite for being a Democrat?

You never ask, you just play petty msg board mind games, 99% of the time.

[Hagar]

7 hours ago, Kountzer said:

You never ask, you just play petty msg board mind games, 99% of the time.

Okay, I’m asking.  Why do you continuously bring up Saturday as the Sabbath, if you don’t think anyone is going to hell for it?  

And, as usual, you won’t answer it.

[Kountzer]

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[Kountzer]

Will the Sabbath be the defining factor in ones salvation? Many believers who are God fearing and upright do not observe Saturday as the Sabbath as scripture clearly gives to followers of Christ. Here is a very straightforward quote from Ellen White on the matter. 

The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God's law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God.{GC 605.2}

[Kountzer]

WHY keep the Sabbath day? What is the object of the Sabbath? Who made it? When was it made, and for whom? Which day is the true Sabbath? Many keep the first day of the week, or Sunday. What Bible authority have they for this? Some keep the seventh day, or Saturday. What Scripture have they for that? Here are the facts about both days, as plainly stated in the Word of God:
 

1. After working the first six days of the week in creating this earth, the great God rested on the seventh day. (
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2. This stamped that day as God's rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day thus becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath, day.
   
3. Therefore the seventh day must always be God's Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one on which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God's rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God's Sabbath day.
   
4. The Creator blessed the seventh day. (
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5. He sanctified the seventh day. (
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7. It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type; for types were not introduced till after the fall.

 

[Hagar]

So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath.   In their minds, they’re celebrating the Sabbath.  I understand the reason some think Saturday is the Sabbath, but I’m just not sure that celebrating it on Saturday or Sunday is a game changer for God.  I can guarantee if you walked out on the street and ask 10 people, “What’s the first day of the week”, at least 9 will say Monday.  Personally, I’m just glad to see committed Christians.

[WOSdrummer99]

I doubt 2000 years ago the days of the week were the same. Did they have leap year? I've even heard some claims that Jesus's birthday was in July. It really doesn't matter. All that is required is that you accept the resurrection of christ.

Also, this is a strange topic to have so much religion. They even have fellow Christian's arguing and disagreeing. Divide and conquer, don't fall for it.

[Kountzer]

4 hours ago, Hagar said:

So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath.  So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath..  I understand the reason some think Saturday is the Sabbath, but I’m just not sure that celebrating it on Saturday or Sunday is a game changer for God.  I can guarantee if you walked out on the street and ask 10 people, “What’s the first day of the week”, at least 9 will say Monday.  Personally, I’m just glad to see committed Christians.

So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath.

So many can find mnute verses to back up. what they're preaching on, but they can't or don't want to find the forth of the 10 commandments, which, btw, is the largest commandments in terms of words used.

So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath.

Paraphrasing Proverbs 14:12  There is a way that appears (in somebody's mind) right but the end is death.

If a person wants to know just look in the Bible.

So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath..  I understand the reason some think Saturday is the Sabbath, but I’m just not sure that celebrating it on Saturday or Sunday is a game changer for God

Eve didn't think doing contrary to God's commandments and going near the forbidden tree & its fruit was a game changer, but it was, to say the least.

 I can guarantee if you walked out on the street and ask 10 people, “What’s the first day of the week”, at least 9 will say Monday.

People are so precise when it comes to Sunday, or Easter Sunday, or Christmas, but they are so vague and forgetful when it comes to the sabbath.  And the sabbath commandment is the only commandments that begins with the word remember.

 

[Kountzer]

3 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

I doubt 2000 years ago the days of the week were the same. Did they have leap year? I've even heard some claims that Jesus's birthday was in July. It really doesn't matter. All that is required is that you accept the resurrection of christ.

Also, this is a strange topic to have so much religion. They even have fellow Christian's arguing and disagreeing. Divide and conquer, don't fall for it.

The same power that preserved truly redeemed christians also preserves the true sabbath day.   

[WOSdrummer99]

45 minutes ago, Kountzer said:

The same power that preserved truly redeemed christians also preserves the true sabbath day.   

Thank you

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Thank God I don't have fakebook

[Kountzer]

facebook is just a vehicle, a medium. Some of it is bad, some is good.  The link I shared is to a live event that is happening right now in Houston.  Good stuff IMO.

[Hagar]

On 6/30/2019 at 8:26 PM, Kountzer said:

So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath.

So many can find mnute verses to back up. what they're preaching on, but they can't or don't want to find the forth of the 10 commandments, which, btw, is the largest commandments in terms of words used.

So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath.

Paraphrasing Proverbs 14:12  There is a way that appears (in somebody's mind) right but the end is death.

If a person wants to know just look in the Bible.

So many denominations think Sunday is the Sabbath..  I understand the reason some think Saturday is the Sabbath, but I’m just not sure that celebrating it on Saturday or Sunday is a game changer for God

Eve didn't think doing contrary to God's commandments and going near the forbidden tree & its fruit was a game changer, but it was, to say the least.

 I can guarantee if you walked out on the street and ask 10 people, “What’s the first day of the week”, at least 9 will say Monday.

People are so precise when it comes to Sunday, or Easter Sunday, or Christmas, but they are so vague and forgetful when it comes to the sabbath.  And the sabbath commandment is the only commandments that begins with the word remember.

 

You know Kountzer, you still haven’t answered my question.  If someone uses Sunday as the Sabbath, do you think they’re going to Hell?   Last time I ask it, you started quoting Ellen White, whoever she is.  All I’m looking for is a simple YES or NO.   From you.  Not Ellen, not Edgar Allen Poe, not William Shakespeare, just you.

Btw, I understand if you don’t answer the question.  I’m 99% sure what the answer is.  Also, since this has all been off topic, this’ll be my last post.