Hagar Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 A&E has a series on Scientology that, I believe, comes on Sunday night at 7. Out of curiosity, we recorded a few. I had no idea what kind of brainwashing these people have been thru. And the "church" (using that word rather loosely) has full control over your money, and demands you only associate with other scientologist, and can demand you get an abortion. And each member has to sign a myriad of legal, binding contracts. How do you say con/cult? And from what little I've seen, many (most?) are very successful financially. And if any family member leaves, say a G'pa w/4 grandkids, he's not allowed to have any contact with the G'kids. I'm simply fascinated. jv_coach and TxHoops 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 I’ve told REB about this but I watched an HBO doc about them that was terrifying. I have a buddy in San Antonio who has sued them and been tied up in litigation with them for years. Can’t disclose much about that other than to say some of the stuff he’s told me has been bone chilling. Scientology is a textbook cult and L Ron just didn’t live long enough to have all of his minions off themselves. Sorry if anyone on this board is a member and offended. But if you are, you’ve been duped in the worst way and need to hear it anyway. LumRaiderFan, BS Wildcats and Hagar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Wildcats Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, TxHoops said: I’ve told REB about this but I watched an HBO doc about them that was terrifying. I have a buddy in San Antonio who has sued them and been tied up in litigation with them for years. Can’t disclose much about that other than to say some of the stuff he’s told me has been bone chilling. Scientology is a textbook cult and L Ron just didn’t live long enough to have all of his minions off themselves. Sorry if anyone on this board is a member and offended. But if you are, you’ve been duped in the worst way and need to hear it anyway. Further proof some will call anything a religion and "church". Keep it in Hollyweird! TxHoops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said: Further proof some will call anything a religion and "church". Keep it in Hollyweird! And they have tax exempt status. What a crock that is! Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Wildcats Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, TxHoops said: And they have tax exempt status. What a crock that is! It seems there are "churches" popping up everywhere. I think some are using this for just that purpose,jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted November 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said: It seems there are "churches" popping up everywhere. I think some are using this for just that purpose,jmo. That's the thing about Scientology, they're not remotely a Church, they're a brainwashed cult. They remind me of the Heavens Gate bunch where all 39 committed suicide when a comet was coming by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 11 hours ago, TxHoops said: I’ve told REB about this but I watched an HBO doc about them that was terrifying. I have a buddy in San Antonio who has sued them and been tied up in litigation with them for years. Can’t disclose much about that other than to say some of the stuff he’s told me has been bone chilling. Scientology is a textbook cult and L Ron just didn’t live long enough to have all of his minions off themselves. Sorry if anyone on this board is a member and offended. But if you are, you’ve been duped in the worst way and need to hear it anyway. Liked your post up until you apologized in case you offended someone. I walk on eggshells for no one. It is what has turned us into a nation of wusses. Being offended builds character and gives the “victim” the option of figuring a way to let it roll off their proverbial backs. Apologizing tends to encourage thumb sucking on the victim's part. I know nothing about Scientology other than Katie Holmes left Tom Cruise in fear for her and her kid's life. I know it is a whacko religion akin to the “Moonies” in that you practically give up all worldly possessions. I hope I offended someone with the whacko comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv_coach Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 I heard Hubbard just wanted to make up a religion and so he made one up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 12 hours ago, jv_coach said: I heard Hubbard just wanted to make up a religion and so he made one up I can't in no way understand how you get relatively intelligent people to buy into his made up religion? How does it happen? Are so many people missing the "logic gene"? You know, I never gave much thought to what Abe said, but part of his quote speaks of a similar scenario, "You can fool some of the people all the time". Guess I'm not the only one befuddled about stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv_coach Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 On 12/16/2017 at 10:00 AM, REBgp said: I can't in no way understand how you get relatively intelligent people to buy into his made up religion? How does it happen? Are so many people missing the "logic gene"? You know, I never gave much thought to what Abe said, but part of his quote speaks of a similar scenario, "You can fool some of the people all the time". Guess I'm not the only one befuddled about stuff like this. People want on top of the ponzie scheme and the rest are gullible to lies because they reject the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 On December 17, 2017 at 2:20 PM, jv_coach said: People want on top of the ponzie scheme and the rest are gullible to lies because they reject the truth To paraphrase what Jack Nicholson said, "They can't handle the truth". I said that kind of tongue in cheek. Our faith in our Christian beliefs is just that, faith. I can understand an atheist who just doesn't have faith, but what I can't understand is someone that rejects faith in Christianity, then puts their faith in a religion created by a science fiction writer? On another site, they have an emoji of a guy beating his head on a wall. That would be so appropriate for me to place here, for I can make no sense of it. jv_coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kountzer Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 I lived in pt Reyes, ca for a year or so, while in the coast guard. The Scientiologists had a big headquarters outside of town, along hwy 1. As you go North, there's this cove, full of white sharks, on the left, and their building is on the right. Anyway, one day I was driving on hwy 1, and their bus was coming the other direction. It was a sunny day and light was such that you could see everything in that bus. Every one of them was sitting there with this spaced out, zoned out look. I tried to read this big fat science fiction book written by L Ron Hubbard, but I couldn't get into it. I've always been curious as to why hollywood actors and actresses are so inclined to join them. But, hollywood would not exist if the rest of america didn't spend all their money making them rich. jv_coach and Hagar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv_coach Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/25/2017 at 8:41 AM, REBgp said: To paraphrase what Jack Nicholson said, "They can't handle the truth". I said that kind of tongue in cheek. Our faith in our Christian beliefs is just that, faith. I can understand an atheist who just doesn't have faith, but what I can't understand is someone that rejects faith in Christianity, then puts their faith in a religion created by a science fiction writer? On another site, they have an emoji of a guy beating his head on a wall. That would be so appropriate for me to place here, for I can make no sense of it. Christians do have a reasonable faith, unlike the cults and man made religions. I Peter 3:15 but honor the Messiah as Lord in your hearts. Always be ready to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you. Hagar, TxHoops and Kountzer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 15 hours ago, jv_coach said: Christians do have a reasonable faith, unlike the cults and man made religions. I Peter 3:15 but honor the Messiah as Lord in your hearts. Always be ready to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you. I'm not proud of this, but about 30 years ago, in what I interpret as humanly "pride", I started to rationalize that it wasn't such a big deal, Jesus dying on the cross, because a) it was the will of his Father (God), and his faith was a 100% faith (he could move mountains, or planets if desired, while we struggle to attain less than a mustard seed). Wasn't to long afterward I was in Church and our Priest gave a homily on that sacrifice, pointing out how that in relation to God, we were as insignificant as a pissant, yet he loves us so much, he put his son through the painful crucifixion process. As my feeble brain processed that, I sit there, embarrassed and ashamed, with a new faith. Still not the size of a mustard seed, but infinitely more than what I had had. jv_coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanp Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 I just wish the scientologists would come to an agreement on things instead of always shifting around....is cholesterol bad or not? same with coffee one week good next wee bad figure it out jv_coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook'em Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Look up Joe Rogan's podcast where he has Ron Miscaviage as a guest. Ron is the father of the most high figure in scientology and left the religion via escaping to his mother in laws place. Very weird stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted March 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 I think I saw an add that they're going to have their own television channel. I'll put that right up there with How You Can Have a Jamican But(t), or whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Channel 320 on Direct TV. Solid Scientology brainwashing. Give me strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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