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41 minutes ago, westend1 said:

No.  You are right. My kids and grandkids can pay for it.  I’ll leave them enough for my share

dont forget how much obama increased the debt. but I guess that dont matter!

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59 minutes ago, 77 said:

dont forget how much obama increased the debt. but I guess that dont matter!

Your kids and grandkids were facing this problem long before Mr. Trump got into office.   The theory is that perhaps a growing economy taxed at lower rates will actually bring more revenues to the government than a stagnant economy taxed at higher  rates.  John Kennedy and Ronald Regan both believed that and ran their administrations accordingly. The basis for that theory is that a dollar in the hands of the private sector is much more productive than the same dollar in the hands of a  bloated bureaucracy.

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36 minutes ago, westend1 said:

 

Whataboutism.   

1 hour ago, 77 said:

dont forget how much obama increased the debt. but I guess that dont matter!

It absolutely doesn't matter to the Dims.  No matter how bad obama was, they think he was the next best thing since sliced bread.

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19 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said:

It absolutely doesn't matter to the Dims.  No matter how bad obama was, they think he was the next best thing since sliced bread.

 

20 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said:

It absolutely doesn't matter to the Dims.  No matter how bad obama was, they think he was the next best thing since sliced bread.

Cool last president was bad so let’s do bad stuff.  Pubes

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1 hour ago, westend1 said:

 

Cool last president was bad so let’s do bad stuff.  Pubes

No, it's "let's learn from history and not follow the same failed policies". And you want to blame "Pubes" for running off posters. Remind me again who needs to wake up.

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6 minutes ago, Englebert said:

No, it's "let's learn from history and not follow the same failed policies". And you want to blame "Pubes" for running off posters. Remind me again who needs to wake up.

Finally. The last “genius “ of the bunch.  I guess you can explain why only 5 people post here any more 

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20 minutes ago, westend1 said:

Finally. The last “genius “ of the bunch.  I guess you can explain why only 5 people post here any more 

I think a lot of them came to the realization that Hillary LOST. Like I said, lots of the dud ammo they had has fallen by the wayside. 

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58 minutes ago, westend1 said:

Finally. The last “genius “ of the bunch.  I guess you can explain why only 5 people post here any more 

Maybe it is you. A link will be posted and you will respond with "LOL" or "that is just a far left website not to be trusted" with no argument of the content. You then continually complain about people not giving commentary and just bashing other posters, while calling other posters names. And to top it off, you blame the Right for running off posters. When challenged on why, you just say "I don't know", but continually point solely to the Right. Then you have the gall to make condescending posts about the very things you are guilty of. I think we have found our answer. It is undoubtedly you that ran them off. Or do you think some might have gotten tired of the "grab'em" and "you are all just racist" posts? I will blame the whole Left, including you. After all, I am a  genius. Right?

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1 hour ago, westend1 said:

Finally. The last “genius “ of the bunch.  I guess you can explain why only 5 people post here any more 

Maybe the lefties here have figured out just how flawed their hero, obama, was and have ran out of ammo against Trump.  So when Trump is out performing the chosen one, the only option they have is to leave.  When "grab em" is all you had, you didn't have a lot to say anyway. They probably realize obama had no clue about the economy, and are devastated because Trump has done more in less than a year than Obama did in eight.  All obama did for the economy was spend, and you want to lay blame on Trump for what your grandkids will have to pay.  You should lay a lot of that at the feet of Obama, know you won't, but you should.

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2 hours ago, Englebert said:

No, it's "let's learn from history and not follow the same failed policies". And you want to blame "Pubes" for running off posters. Remind me again who needs to wake up.

Finally. The last “genius “ of the bunch

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1 hour ago, westend1 said:

I am sure you will post another breitbart article soon.  

And I'm sure you will be too scared to comment on the content, but add your obligatory "LOL", then later accuse the Right of posting stuff with no comment. Oh yeah, and claim that the posters on the Right are responsible for running off posters, while claiming zero responsibility due to your well-informed, thoughtful, knowledgeable, and just downright enlightened posts. And I'm sure you will resort to one or two personal attacks, then chastise any posters from the Right for responding with personal attacks. And I'm sure you will have no comment about posters who use the race card in an attempt to shut down a debate. Yep, we know the routine. It's odd that you post condescending predictions when your own posts are so, so predictable.

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As the post (meme) on page one says, put a box you can check to pay at the Obama rate.  Seriously, how many people on the left would check it?  I'd bet the numbers would be less than 1%.  But yet they still want to blame Trump for the Nat. Debt, whiched spiraled out of control under Obama.  At least this Tax Cut might stop the bleeding.  We know for sure that Obama failed.

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On 12/21/2017 at 0:24 PM, baddog said:

Tobie always said that Trump hasn't put anything in his pocket. What say ye now, Tobie?

The tax breaks for the middle class only last for a few years. It is proven that "trickle down economics" do not help the working class. Look what happened when Bush was in office. The deficit steadily decreased during Obama' s tenure.

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33 minutes ago, Big girl said:

The tax breaks for the middle class only last for a few years. It is proven that "trickle down economics" do not help the working class. Look what happened when Bush was in office. The deficit steadily decreased during Obama' s tenure.

You make full sentences and write more intelligently than Big Girl. You are not BG.

Ever heard of looking a gift horse in the mouth? You libs kill me. Someone trying to help you out and you bite his hand.....understandable though.

Please illustrate Obama's deficit decreases.

Posted
2 hours ago, Big girl said:

The tax breaks for the middle class only last for a few years. It is proven that "trickle down economics" do not help the working class. Look what happened when Bush was in office. The deficit steadily decreased during Obama' s tenure.

Wow, have the Libs did a number on you. Would you care to backup your statements? (It took me 10 minutes to type that sentence. Have you ever tried to type while laughing hysterically. It is not easy.)

And this statement is coming from someone that exposed her lack of knowledge between debt and deficit. Are we somehow supposed to think of you as knowledgeable on the subject of deficits now?

Posted
6 hours ago, Big girl said:

The tax breaks for the middle class only last for a few years. It is proven that "trickle down economics" do not help the working class. Look what happened when Bush was in office. The deficit steadily decreased during Obama' s tenure.

The debt doubled under obama!  Cutting taxes worked when Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush did it.   Got a question for you:  Isn't better for you to have and control your money than letting some bureaucrat in government control it?  Remember -- in capitalism you control you.  In socialism somebody else controls you! 

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On 12/28/2017 at 9:44 AM, Big girl said:

The tax breaks for the middle class only last for a few years. It is proven that "trickle down economics" do not help the working class. Look what happened when Bush was in office. The deficit steadily decreased during Obama' s tenure.

The national debt went up $4 Trillion under Bush. The national debt increased $12 Trillion under Obama or 300% more than under Bush. The notion that anything went down under Obama is ludicrous. 

The tax cuts will end in 10 years... because the Democrats wanted it to. It 8 Dems would have voted to give the middle class tax relief, it would have been permanent. 

I think the IRS needs to take a page from the Obama playbook (but actually tell the truth and mean it).  They need to have a check box on the 2018 tax return and have it say.... “If you liked your tax plan, you can keep it”.  If you check the box you can pay the rate and standard deduction from the Obama years. 

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan!!  The rest of us will gladly pay the new rate. 

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