I can admit I was wrong

[Brubaker]

2 hours ago, Reagan said:

Explain your expertise!  Also, you constantly bring up the Manvel game.  Do you feel Nederland lost because of coaching or the athletes?

Good Lord, is this really a question that needs asking.... WOW!!!!

[Reagan]

2 hours ago, Brubaker said:

Good Lord, is this really a question that needs asking.... WOW!!!!

WOW!  Yes both questions were pertinent to the conversation.  And the other party answered both questions.  Just needed to find out a few things concerning the other party. 

[WOSgrad]

4 hours ago, Reagan said:

Explain your expertise!  Also, you constantly bring up the Manvel game.  Do you feel Nederland lost because of coaching or the athletes?

Today, 4 Manvel players signed LOIs to FBS schools.

How many Nederland players signed today?

[Reagan]

10 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:

Today, 4 Manvel players signed LOIs to FBS schools.

How many Nederland players signed today?

Good for them.  I wonder how many Aledo will have?!  But, I'll say it again -- it's all about coaching.  I'm sure coaching had a lot to do with those 4 players signing.  A good coach can win with talented and less talented players.  A mediocre coach can only win with good players.  BTW -- I watched some clips of Aledo and their players do not look any different than Nederland's and PN-G's.  So, again, as many Titles as they have it HAS to be the coaching.

[WOSgrad]

8 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Good for them.  I wonder how many Aledo will have?!

Enough to take Nederland down with whatever coach you want to have on the Bulldog sideline.

[Reagan]

5 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:

Enough to take Nederland down with whatever coach you want to have on the Bulldog sideline.

That's were you and I disagree.  I added some concerning Aledo.  Through all the State Tiles Aledo has, it would be interesting to see how many signed with big-time colleges.

[TxHoops]

56 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:

Today, 4 Manvel players signed LOIs to FBS schools.

How many Nederland players signed today?

Jalen Preston may be better than anyone in the history of Nederland...

[outanup]

SMITTY!!!!!!!!

[Brubaker]

Last year, Aledo had at lease two lineman, one went to Michigan, one went to TCU, their QB went to Dartmouth.  There were others who went to FCS schools.  You would think you would at least do a little research here.

[badndn]

On 12/20/2017 at 10:12 PM, TxHoops said:

Briles is a great example.  If he had stayed at Wolforth Frenship, he very well could have gotten one there as well. 

Briles never coached at WF. He left SVille after 99 title and went to Texas Tech as RB coach. Kendall Briles transfered for Senior year to WF (a suburb of Lubbock) because that's where the family was. 

 

[badndn]

Aledo has big athletes. Big lines year in year out. That's something that's missing in local 5A. Teams have one or two big athletic linemen, but not 5. 

[CardinalBacker]

2 hours ago, badndn said:

Aledo has big athletes. Big lines year in year out. That's something that's missing in local 5A. Teams have one or two big athletic linemen, but not 5. 

I agree... the thing is that those big lines year in, year out, are created in the weight room over a period of years.  I'll be willing to bet that there's a dedicated strength and conditioning guy or at least a solid o-line coach who's instilling a dream in fat junior high kids. 

 

[badndn]

8 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

I agree... the thing is that those big lines year in, year out, are created in the weight room over a period of years.  I'll be willing to bet that there's a dedicated strength and conditioning guy or at least a solid o-line coach who's instilling a dream in fat junior high kids. 

 

Some yes, but you can't teach 6'4" 290 lbs. 

[CardinalBacker]

Yeah, but hopefully you can do better than 6’2” and 195. 

[Reagan]

23 hours ago, Brubaker said:

Last year, Aledo had at lease two lineman, one went to Michigan, one went to TCU, their QB went to Dartmouth.  There were others who went to FCS schools.  You would think you would at least do a little research here.

Aledo has 7 state titles in 18 years.  Do they ALWAYS have better athletes?  BTW, thanks for doing the research!

[Brubaker]

The irony of the title of this thread is rich, not talking about Cardbacker

[oldage football]

what classification is Aledo

[Brubaker]

5a d2

[Reagan]

3 hours ago, Brubaker said:

The irony of the title of this thread is rich, not talking about Cardbacker

Indeed it is while again sitting at home watching the State Championship games!

[Reagan]

Briles won 4 Titles in 7 years.  Only one since he's left.  Stephenville has 5 State Titles in 20 years.  Like Aledo, did Stepenville ALWAYS have the talent?  Or -- was it created through coaching?!  Personally I feel C. Thompson at WOS creates his athletes.  JMO!

[oldschool2]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Briles won 4 Titles in 7 years.  Only one since he's left.  Stephenville has 5 State Titles in 20 years.  Like Aledo, did Stepenville ALWAYS have the talent?  Or -- was it created through coaching?!  Personally I feel C. Thompson at WOS creates his athletes.  JMO!

So he could replicate athletes exactly like the ones he has?...at any other school? Meaning FBS caliber players...

[CardinalBacker]

53 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

So he could replicate athletes exactly like the ones he has?...at any other school? Meaning FBS caliber players...

Yes and no... I firmly believe there are FBS caliber kids at lots of schools who never reach their potential because of limited coaching. 

WOS absolutely has their share of stud athletes... but CT gets so much more out of those kids AND the kids who aren’t as gifted and gets the job done, year in and year out. 

If believing that there’s a genetic force field around the Cove helps you sleep at night, good for you. It gets done because of their legendary work ethic and good coaching. Anytime you can hit Jerry world with a fourth option at qb, it’s not just athleticsm getting you there. Anytime you can return to the sc the following year with a complete new group, it’s not just athleticism. 

It’s all about molding the athletes you have to achieve their full potential. And it doesn’t start in high school. I’m willing to bet that there is a better football program in WOS Jr high than in a lot of high school varsity programs in the area. 

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, oldschool2 said:

So he could replicate athletes exactly like the ones he has?...at any other school? Meaning FBS caliber players...

He's playing for his 3rd straight Title.  It's not about how many FBS players you have.  It's hard for me to believe that they win every year and they just so happen to have great athletes every year.  When in Vidor, PN-G and Nederland -- not that far away -- they can't replicate the same thing.  It has to be coaching ability.  JMO.  What's your take on it? 

[Reagan]

I will be observing the talent of the State Title participants and evaluate how I feel they compare/don't compare to what we have locally.  I would suggest to those that are actually interested do the same.

[CardinalBacker]

6 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I will be observing the talent of the State Title participants and evaluate how I feel they compare/don't compare to what we have locally.  I would suggest to those that are actually interested do the same.

But are you watching God-given gifts or carefully cultivated talents? I’m not sure I could tell the difference.