TexazBall Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said: You are 100% percent correct. They are trying to keep several people from the 2 programs and that's not how it works in the football coaching world. Head Coaches are usually allowed to bring their own people if the choose. It's a trust thing. How can the new regime trust that old holdovers are not trying to sabotage them? Several have turned it down for that reason. So I’m guessing Botkin is out, and Whoever gets it has to keep coaches from the previous 2 schools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wedge Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Alpha Wolf said: Deadline is next Thursday if not sooner that they want to have made a hire. Interviews are still scheduled for next week. Shocked me when I heard a particular current head coach in the golden triangle has an interview next week. So Matthews is on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 hours ago, 2wedge said: So Matthews is on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Pig Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 16 hours ago, 2wedge said: So Matthews is on the list? That right there is funny!! Reagan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3zii Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 18 hours ago, Alpha Wolf said: You are 100% percent correct. They are trying to keep several people from the 2 programs and that's not how it works in the football coaching world. Head Coaches are usually allowed to bring their own people if the choose. It's a trust thing. How can the new regime trust that old holdovers are not trying to sabotage them? Several have turned it down for that reason. Wow is that what’s goin on? I’m currently out the state so I’ve been out of the loop, .BISD as well as Ron Jackson should definitely be ashamed of Themselves if that’s true. They know as well as Jackson that’s not how it works, playing all that (favs crap, I’ma look out for you , buddy, ect) is played out smh exactly why BISD is in the position they’re in now, because of nonsense like this , 5GallonBucket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Wolf Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 18 hours ago, 2wedge said: So Matthews is on the list? On 3/2/2018 at 9:54 AM, The Icon said: Yea, the only Matthews that I can think of that is a current head coach... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustUs Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Uncle Pig said: That right there is funny!! Well he beat Ozen coached by Taylor Sept.20 (42-14).....he also beat Central coached by Nelson Sept.26 (42-21) now that's funny. He's a formidable coach with intense motivation skills that gets his players to believe in themselves and to perform above their abilities....BISD has a bad history/pattern of passing/rejecting top applicants as demonstrated last week. Why not Matthews ? They discouraged Botkin a top shelf applicant with restraints on his staff. Shame on them if they pass on another solid applicant. 2wedge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Alpha Wolf said: Yea, the only Matthews that I can think of that is a current head coach... I remember while back I was joking around about him applying.... Is there any truth that he is on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Wolf Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, LC-M said: I remember while back I was joking around about him applying.... Is there any truth that he is on the list? Find me another Head Coach with the last name Matthews... 2wedge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, JustUs said: Well he beat Ozen coached by Taylor Sept.20 (42-14).....he also beat Central coached by Nelson Sept.26 (42-21) now that's funny. He's a formidable coach with intense motivation skills that gets his players to believe in themselves and to perform above their abilities....BISD has a bad history/pattern of passing/rejecting top applicants as demonstrated last week. Why not Matthews ? They discouraged Botkin a top shelf applicant with restraints on his staff. Shame on them if they pass on another solid applicant. If its Matthews, IMO It would be good hire. I know some folks will disagree with me but he gets the most out of those kids without throwing the ball. The talent that BMT has I think he would probably excel if the community can buy into the program. He would need a good a DC. I'm sure the offense style would change. He does have losing overall record to Ozen and Central but looking at the scores they were competitive games at least most of them. ice74 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Wolf Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, JustUs said: Well he beat Ozen coached by Taylor Sept.20 (42-14).....he also beat Central coached by Nelson Sept.26 (42-21) now that's funny. He's a formidable coach with intense motivation skills that gets his players to believe in themselves and to perform above their abilities....BISD has a bad history/pattern of passing/rejecting top applicants as demonstrated last week. Why not Matthews ? They discouraged Botkin a top shelf applicant with restraints on his staff. Shame on them if they pass on another solid applicant. Great guy from what I know of him. He does get the most out of his kids and has been spanking both of our schools with that system. I'm not a racist by any means and I don't think he is either but could you imagine all the talk on a guy and coach from Vidor being named the coach at United, a predominantly black and Hispanic school? But I'll take him over Taylor ANY day... Tiger33, D3zii, Yeoj and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I absolutely would NOT have a problem with Matthews. As a matter of fact, a coach like him would probably be what the team needs. A man of strong faith, hard nosed disciplinary. Run first style. With the athletes that he'll have at his disposal, that could work. Problem would be with fans and parents that won't give him a chance and refuse to give his offensive scheme a fair shake. And I think that whole white coach thing would go out the window if he immediately starts winning... 2wedge, WOSgrad, Rez and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said: I absolutely would NOT have a problem with Matthews. As a matter of fact, a coach like him would probably be what the team needs. A man of strong faith, hard nosed disciplinary. Run first style. With the athletes that he'll have at his disposal, that could work. Problem would be with fans and parents that won't give him a chance and refuse to give his offensive scheme a fair shake. And I think that whole white coach thing would go out the window if he immediately starts winning... 5 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said: I absolutely would NOT have a problem with Matthews. As a matter of fact, a coach like him would probably be what the team needs. A man of strong faith, hard nosed disciplinary. Run first style. With the athletes that he'll have at his disposal, that could work. Problem would be with fans and parents that won't give him a chance and refuse to give his offensive scheme a fair shake. And I think that whole white coach thing would go out the window if he immediately starts winning... I see him running the ball just not in the wing t. Unless yall don't have a QB that cant throw. Yes he has been a run guy but I have not seen a vidor qb that could actually throw the ball down the field and spread you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, LC-M said: I see him running the ball just not in the wing t. Unless yall don't have a QB that cant throw. Yes he has been a run guy but I have not seen a vidor qb that could actually throw the ball down the field and spread you out. I personally prefer a run first traditional offense vs. Spread. I like the offense that Bridge City, Vidor, and Silsbee runs. L-Train11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Wolf Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, LC-M said: I see him running the ball just not in the wing t. Unless yall don't have a QB that cant throw. Yes he has been a run guy but I have not seen a vidor qb that could actually throw the ball down the field and spread you out. Between these 2 and whoever else, throwing the ball shouldn't be an issue IF a passing play is called. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Tiger33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3zii Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said: Between these 2 and whoever else, throwing the ball shouldn't be an issue IF a passing play is called. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up If Stowers is still in it "which he should be" i can definetly see him landing the job now with all the restrictions BISD has on it, since most of the staff from both schools use to be his assistant coaches while at Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Wolf Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, D3zii said: If Stowers is still in it "which he should be" i can definetly see him landing the job now with all the restrictions BISD has on it, since most of the staff from both schools use to be his assistant coaches while at Central Stowers was reportedly making $150K where ever he is and last I heard is no longer a candidate. But I understand your point about the assistant coaches. The hurdle for everyone except Stowers has been that the candidates are/were being told in the interview process that they couldn't bring any coaches with them and that Taylor and or Nelson had to be OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said: Between these 2 and whoever else, throwing the ball shouldn't be an issue IF a passing play is called. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I was at the Ozen and vidor game this past year and that does not look like the same Qb. I think the Qb number was 24? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said: Stowers was reportedly making $150K where ever he is and last I heard is no longer a candidate. But I understand your point about the assistant coaches. The hurdle for everyone except Stowers has been that the candidates are/were being told in the interview process that they couldn't bring any coaches with them and that Taylor and or Nelson had to be OC. From what I know, Stowers last coaching job was in Little Elm. He left that job to start selling health insurance. Eventually, it was a pay increase... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, LC-M said: I was at the Ozen and vidor game this past year and that does not look like the same Qb. I think the Qb number was 24? JV, I think.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said: I personally prefer a run first traditional offense vs. Spread. I like the offer sea that Bridge City, Vidor, and Silsbee runs. I never really cared for the wing t. I guess because LCM was horrible in it. Had our first winless season running it and crouch tried it 3-7 season. The spread at LCM was able to atleast move the ball for us. Now I do like split back veer with 3 wideouts. It would be interesting to watch if he could getting that offense to click there. I wonder how many 6a run the wing t BMTSoulja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3zii Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said: Stowers was reportedly making $150K where ever he is and last I heard is no longer a candidate. But I understand your point about the assistant coaches. The hurdle for everyone except Stowers has been that the candidates are/were being told in the interview process that they couldn't bring any coaches with them and that Taylor and or Nelson had to be OC. Wow that is sad, lol ..i understand it but thats not right, with all that being said its a no brainer, Nelson was with Stump at WB an had Ozen one of the top offenses in the area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustUs Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 13 hours ago, D3zii said: If Stowers is still in it "which he should be" i can definetly see him landing the job now with all the restrictions BISD has on it, since most of the staff from both schools use to be his assistant coaches while at Central BINGO thats the plan..Placing RIDICULOUS restrictions on top applicants anticipating they will refuse the job. Opening the door for their old throw back and the FIX prevails again. Vintage BISD smh...Maybe he'll decline too. He hasnt coached in 5 years but seems to have a fan base with the Jags,also with current and former AD... panther blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWolf10 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 16 hours ago, LC-M said: I see him running the ball just not in the wing t. Unless yall don't have a QB that cant throw. Yes he has been a run guy but I have not seen a vidor qb that could actually throw the ball down the field and spread you out. I think the wing t would be favorable with these athletes. The passing game would be deadly. Those posts would be wide open. Defenses would be scared to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, bcjag said: I think the wing t would be favorable with these athletes. The passing game would be deadly. Those posts would be wide open. Defenses would be scared to death. Yeah looking at it from that point it would be hard to defend. Euless Trinty runs the ball heavy and they have a good program. It might be the best fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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