LumRaiderFan Posted April 3, 2018 Report Posted April 3, 2018 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is messed up...smh. Quote
Hagar Posted April 4, 2018 Report Posted April 4, 2018 I can't imagine why the CDC isn't investigating the rampant insanity in this country. Quote
Ryanp Posted April 4, 2018 Report Posted April 4, 2018 between this atrocity and the sandlot 2 i don't know where we are headed as a society i mean they just did the same storyline but added girls and some minorities, geez....can't believe they got james earl jones back for that terrible film also this guy is probably dangerous and should be watched Quote
Kountzer Posted April 4, 2018 Report Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Ryanp said: between this atrocity and the sandlot 2 i don't know where we are headed as a society i mean they just did the same storyline but added girls and some minorities, geez....can't believe they got james earl jones back for that terrible film also this guy is probably dangerous and should be watched The illuminati aka the Jesuits control the film industry. It is all garbage, even the academy award winning movies. Same goes for most popular music. The same powers that control movies set up Sunday as a day of worship. Sunday worship has serious mark of the beast implications. Also the same powers fabricated the pre trip, secret rapture false theory. That's all it is is theory. I thess 4 is one of the noisiest sections of the bible. Jesus went through the tribulation of the cross. Paul went through being beheaded. All the apostles went through tribulation. As did all of the Patriachs. Post trip is the MO of heaven. Now, all of a sudden they come up with this rapture non sense. Don't take my word for it. Do your research. Quote
Ryanp Posted April 4, 2018 Report Posted April 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kountzer said: The illuminati aka the Jesuits control the film industry. It is all garbage, even the academy award winning movies. Same goes for most popular music. The same powers that control movies set up Sunday as a day of worship. Sunday worship has serious mark of the beast implications. Also the same powers fabricated the pre trip, secret rapture false theory. That's all it is is theory. I thess 4 is one of the noisiest sections of the bible. Jesus went through the tribulation of the cross. Paul went through being beheaded. All the apostles went through tribulation. As did all of the Patriachs. Post trip is the MO of heaven. Now, all of a sudden they come up with this rapture non sense. Don't take my word for it. Do your research. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter sir Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted April 4, 2018 Author Report Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Kountzer said: The illuminati aka the Jesuits control the film industry. It is all garbage, even the academy award winning movies. Same goes for most popular music. The same powers that control movies set up Sunday as a day of worship. Sunday worship has serious mark of the beast implications. Also the same powers fabricated the pre trip, secret rapture false theory. That's all it is is theory. I thess 4 is one of the noisiest sections of the bible. Jesus went through the tribulation of the cross. Paul went through being beheaded. All the apostles went through tribulation. As did all of the Patriachs. Post trip is the MO of heaven. Now, all of a sudden they come up with this rapture non sense. Don't take my word for it. Do your research. Explain 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 to us. Quote
Kountzer Posted April 5, 2018 Report Posted April 5, 2018 16" For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout," Nothing secretive about that. That's loud "...and the trump or trumpet of God. " Nothing quiet or secretive about the blowing of a trumpet. Again that's loud and boisterous. "The dead in Christ shall rise first" The dead who are not in Christ remain in the grave for another thousand years. The living dead are destroyed by the 'brightness of his coming." There is not 7 years of tribulation, where evil people get a chance to get it together. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Kountzer said: 16" For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout," Nothing secretive about that. That's loud "...and the trump or trumpet of God. " Nothing quiet or secretive about the blowing of a trumpet. Again that's loud and boisterous. "The dead in Christ shall rise first" The dead who are not in Christ remain in the grave for another thousand years. The living dead are destroyed by the 'brightness of his coming." There is not 7 years of tribulation, where evil people get a chance to get it together. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . Who said the rapture would be secret? You should focus more on the simple message...if you believe and repent you will be saved. You will never have any success drawing folks closer to Christ if your main goal is to try and prove you know more about the Bible than everyone else. baddog 1 Quote
Kountzer Posted April 5, 2018 Report Posted April 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Quote Who said the rapture would be secret? Quote A lot of folks have said it. Hal Lindsey made a lot of money saying it. So did the writers of Left Behind. Quote You should focus more on the simple message...if you believe and repent you will be saved. You got to know what you believe. There are a lot of wolves in disguise inside the church. Quote You will never have any success drawing folks closer to Christ if your main goal is to try and prove you know more about the Bible than everyone else. The adventist movement is one of the fastest growing church movements in the world. Scores of people all over the world are joining this movement everyday. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Posted April 5, 2018 30 minutes ago, Kountzer said: Joining the “movement” means nothing. Benny Hinn had a big church, too. I am sure of one thing, your tactics aren’t putting folks in the pews. Quote
Kountzer Posted April 5, 2018 Report Posted April 5, 2018 4 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Quote Joining the “movement” means nothing. It means everything, if it's the right movement. Quote Benny Hinn had a big church, too. I'm just a layman. I don't pastor a church. I deacon some. The true followers of God are always in the minority. There's the broad road and there's the straight and narrow road., etc. Quote I am sure of one thing, your tactics aren’t putting folks in the pews. What tactics? You asked me to explain 1thess 4:16, 17. I did. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Posted April 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Kountzer said: It means everything, if it's the right movement. 5 hours ago, Kountzer said: What tactics? You asked me to explain 1thess 4:16, 17. I did. Agree...IF it's the right movement. No, you didn't explain 1 Thess...you seem to think no one else does research if they don't agree with your views. I would suggest you need to do more research. Quote
Ryanp Posted April 5, 2018 Report Posted April 5, 2018 19 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Explain 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 to us. the great thing about the bible is that we can all decipher it's mysteries in whichever way supports the world view we already have this brings us closer to human brotherhood Quote
Kountzer Posted April 5, 2018 Report Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Ryanp said: the great thing about the bible is that we can all decipher it's mysteries in whichever way supports the world view we already have this brings us closer to human brotherhood 2 Peter 1:20 Quote
Kountzer Posted April 5, 2018 Report Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Quote Agree...IF it's the right movement. I feel confident in the one I participate in. Quote No, you didn't explain 1 Thess...you seem to think no one else does research if they don't agree with your views. Man, I thought I knocked that out of the park. Oh well. It is a straight forward text, but people see and hear what they want to see and hear. Quote I would suggest you need to do more research. I do, and I will. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
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Ryanp Posted April 5, 2018 Report Posted April 5, 2018 I take the verse to mean that we just need to interpret the prophecies in public places like bars and diners, never in private where we might not have anyone to interpret with! Quote
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