Segregation Now

[Englebert]

8 hours ago, Kountzer said:

And when you addressing me you need to shorten your paragraphs.  I don't have time to wade though all that brain sewage you be spilling out.

Did you actually just admit that you have trouble reading text, but have the gall to lecture us about the history of religion on this Earth? Did someone read the history books to you? Did the books have big ol' pictures, some that even pop up? Did the sentences rhyme? (And one little nugget of encouragement: once you master the task of phonetic verbalization of each word, the reading speed becomes much faster, as does the comprehension level.) Did they also explain the nuances and meanings of the text to you? And how can someone so full of historical religious knowledge, which would take years and years of diligent reading of different viewpoints, get so worked up about a paragraph containing more that one sentence. Please keep posting. It is really, really comical. I'll end this paragraph here as I feel I might have surpassed the attention span of the reader.

Guess what, this post was actually addressed to you. Notice the quote has your name on it. Did you skip the class that taught this fundamental skill? Bless your little heart.

[LumRaiderFan]

8 hours ago, Kountzer said:

I've only been to starbucks a handful of times.  Stuff in there is too expensive, and most of it, if not all of it, is detrimental to your health.  Same thing with sunday churches.  Band me if you want to.  You're worshipping on the wrong day anyway.  Block me from something good and I'll be mildly concerned.   

We're supposed to worship 7 days a week...rest on one.

Which day you go to Church will not determine whether or not you go to Heaven.

It's the arrogant know it all attitude of some Churches that is a turnoff to non-Christians.

Just get them in the door...God will take it from there. (you catch, HE cleans)

[team first]

10 hours ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

(Today) Torrence California Starbucks: Manager denies Black male code to bathroom because he has not ordered. Same Black male notices white patron leaving bathroom and then goes to counter to order. Oh oh!!! 

How much you want to bet he was placing a second order. 

Oh oh!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kountzer]

3 hours ago, Englebert said:

Did you actually just admit that you have trouble reading text, but have the gall to lecture us about the history of religion on this Earth? Did someone read the history books to you? Did the books have big ol' pictures, some that even pop up? Did the sentences rhyme? (And one little nugget of encouragement: once you master the task of phonetic verbalization of each word, the reading speed becomes much faster, as does the comprehension level.) Did they also explain the nuances and meanings of the text to you? And how can someone so full of historical religious knowledge, which would take years and years of diligent reading of different viewpoints, get so worked up about a paragraph containing more that one sentence. Please keep posting. It is really, really comical. I'll end this paragraph here as I feel I might have surpassed the attention span of the reader.

Guess what, this post was actually addressed to you. Notice the quote has your name on it. Did you skip the class that taught this fundamental skill? Bless your little heart.

If I am reading something good, that is uplifting etc I pay attention. All you post is negativity, character assassination, fraud and hate.  I skim a little and ignore the rest.  When you get around to posting something worthwhile I will read and pay attention.

[Englebert]

47 minutes ago, Kountzer said:

If I am reading something good, that is uplifting etc I pay attention. All you post is negativity, character assassination, fraud and hate.  I skim a little and ignore the rest.  When you get around to posting something worthwhile I will read and pay attention.

I just respond to you. If you just skim, why did you whine about my posts being too long? Sounds like your motive is just to ignore (run) and play victim when confronted or challenged about your allegations. Typical Liberal strategy that we've gotten used to. Sad but entertaining.

[BLUEDOVE3]

On 4/16/2018 at 8:04 AM, stevenash said:

Did your explanation take place because that employee asked you to leave?

My explanation was to get into the bathroom. 

[BLUEDOVE3]

6 hours ago, team first said:

How much you want to bet he was placing a second order. 

Oh oh!!!!!!!!!!!

How much you wanna bet? 

[BLUEDOVE3]

5 hours ago, Englebert said:

I just respond to you. If you just skim, why did you whine about my posts being too long? Sounds like your motive is just to ignore (run) and play victim when confronted or challenged about your allegations. Typical Liberal strategy that we've gotten used to. Sad but entertaining.

Maybe your posts are long to hide your words of b.s.

[BLUEDOVE3]

On 4/16/2018 at 9:00 PM, Englebert said:

You do not have a right to loiter. If you are asked to leave, you leave. It is the establishment's discretion on whether or not you can stay. Are you just trying to make up laws? If you think that you are excused from loitering if you are waiting on a friend, what is this mythological time limit? Please, try to answer that question while I cook a roast. I have a feeling I will have plenty of time. (And I will have to teach myself how to cook a roast, which will take even more time.)

Now to the salient point. How is the establishment or the police acting in a racist fashion? Is there any proof, or hell, any circumstantial evidence that they were targeting the customers based on skin color? Please, provide this evidence if you think any civil rights were violated. And what makes you think that White people would not have been asked to leave? I've been asked to leave a Starbucks for not ordering. How do you explain that?

Now I know you've been to enough Starbucks to see people on their laptops sitting working on their dissertation. 

[Englebert]

16 minutes ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

Maybe your posts are long to hide your words of b.s.

Just because you can't understand them doesn't make them "b.s.".

[Englebert]

13 minutes ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

Now I know you've been to enough Starbucks to see people on their laptops sitting working on their dissertation. 

I've been to one Starbucks in my life, and was kicked out...and properly so. The place was crowded and we were taking a table away from paying customers. We had no problem getting up and leaving.

And you are still running from the salient question. How did the Starbucks workers, management or police act in a racist fashion? That is the fifth time I've asked you. Why do I get the feeling you will run again? Do you actually think the tactic of deflection from the topic to a personal one will lead me to forget that you ignored the question. That might work on your Liberal friends, but some of us are not so easily distracted. Amused, but not distracted.

[BLUEDOVE3]

4 hours ago, Englebert said:

Just because you can't understand them doesn't make them "b.s.".

Reading is fundumbmental! I never said I didn't understand it. 

[BLUEDOVE3]

4 hours ago, Englebert said:

I've been to one Starbucks in my life, and was kicked out...and properly so. The place was crowded and we were taking a table away from paying customers. We had no problem getting up and leaving.

And you are still running from the salient question. How did the Starbucks workers, management or police act in a racist fashion? That is the fifth time I've asked you. Why do I get the feeling you will run again? Do you actually think the tactic of deflection from the topic to a personal one will lead me to forget that you ignored the question. That might work on your Liberal friends, but some of us are not so easily distracted. Amused, but not distracted.

The manager overreacted in this situation. You were not waiting for a business associate to arrive. I've been enough Starbucks to notice its a meeting place for people and people use their wifi. As far as the police, I think they also overreacted. They were waiting for another person. In fact, the guy showed up as the police were escorting them out and tried to explain to the police. 

[Englebert]

1 hour ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

The manager overreacted in this situation. You were not waiting for a business associate to arrive. I've been enough Starbucks to notice its a meeting place for people and people use their wifi. As far as the police, I think they also overreacted. They were waiting for another person. In fact, the guy showed up as the police were escorting them out and tried to explain to the police. 

I am mystified that you keep trying to argue that if you are waiting for someone that somehow laws or protocol seems to magically vanish. Once again, the establishment can ask you to leave at their discretion. They can make this decision based on occupancy at the time, ignore their own regulations, or enforce their regulations. The establishment has that right, and can regulate as they deem necessary. You, as a customer, do not have the right to trespass. Why this concept seems foreign to you is just befuddling. But that is not the major issue here.

The current protests, including your response, was never about an over-reaction as you state. You and the protesters have one agenda...y'all are protesting about race. PERIOD! Everyone knows that, and to deny it is just pathetic. But let's just digress and reiterate. It seems you have now turned tail (due to lack of evidence) and are trying to profit an "over-reaction" defense that is mysteriously not based on race. Are the thousands of Starbucks being closed so that their management can receive "over-reaction" training... or is the management receiving "racial bias" training (as publically stated)? Please don't insult me with your dull rhetoric. It is definitely true that there is an over-reaction being played out in this scenario, and that over-reaction is Starbucks over-reacting to an obvious but expected over-reaction by the race-baiting Liberals. The next time your get feverish about past mistreatment, keep in mind that thousands of innocent Starbucks employees have to endure ridicule and accusations of being racist because Liberals have nothing better to do than accuse everyone of being racist without ever providing one shred of proof. This type of "over-reaction" does nothing but sow the seeds of discourse and allows real racism to propagate and flourish. Maybe it's time that "race baiting" classes should become mandatory training.

[team first]

23 hours ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

How much you wanna bet? 

Whatever you want, but you have to pay up front!

[Hagar]

I'm just speculating here, but I'm willing to bet a large amount of money that if me and my wife walked into Papadeauxs on Saturday evening and sit at a table and didn't order, we'd be escorted out.  The point is, establishments have that right.  I have no idea what happened at the Starbucks that started all this.  Were they ask to leave because they were black, or is it an issue just because they were black?  Could they have possibly planned this out to get their 15 minutes of fame, and a lucrative settlement?  You bet.  Fact is though, I don't know, and I'm pretty sure neither do all the people making a racial issue out of it.

 

[stevenash]

I can assure you that at sometime, somewhere, white folks were put in a similar situation and nothing came of it.

[Kountzer]

That's just one incident.  There's another recent event in Michigan where a school teen got lost in a upper middle class sub division.  He knocked on a front door to ask directions and they shot at him. I am too pre occupied  to supply the link at the moment.

[Kountzer]

I bring my laptop to work and surf the net at lunch.  I usually go to McDonald's and at least buy a $1.00 drink.  On a few occasions I went to the starbucks further down the road.  Again I buy a beverage and

surf for 40 minutes or so then go back to work.  No wifi at work.  How this event went from zero to go to jail that fast is beyond me.  I just posted a link, I was not a witness to the incident.

I say find a clean Mc Donald's get an a la carte drink, or a big mac and call it a day.

[Kountzer]

In the black man surviving in the USA 101 class they teach you to buy something when you are in an establishment.  Maybe they skipped that class lecture.

[Tigers2010]

1 hour ago, Kountzer said:

In the black man surviving in the USA 101 class they teach you to buy something when you are in an establishment.  Maybe they skipped that class lecture.

lol

[PAMFAM10]

STARBUCKS you guys will argue over any and everything. 5 day conversation.

[baddog]

45 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

STARBUCKS you guys will argue over any and everything. 5 day conversation.

I never liked Starbucks before any of this crap. Funny what grabs headlines. We could be on the brink of nuclear war and we are more concerned with a man being kicked out of Starbucks. How trite we have truly become.

[Kountzer]

Guess who else has good "free" wifi: popeyes chicken.  Get my usual 2 piece, dark, spicy, red beans & rice.  Then sit and surf.  Can't beat it.

[Ty Cobb]

59 minutes ago, Kountzer said:

Guess who else has good "free" wifi: popeyes chicken.  Get my usual 2 piece, dark, spicy, red beans & rice.  Then sit and surf.  Can't beat it.

Now we are talking.  Popeye's chicken is my favorite!  To heck with starbucks!