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stevenash · May 5, 2018

And for what length of time has he been "getting ready"?

Kountzer · May 5, 2018

Since 1844.

BLUEDOVE3 · May 10, 2018

They both go together like a glove & hand. Trump and Kayne. Both wacko. And yall know its bad when George Will says:

George Will Calls ‘Repulsive’ Pence Worse Than Trump

Englebert · May 10, 2018

1 hour ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

They both go together like a glove & hand. Trump and Kayne. Both wacko. And yall know its bad when George Will says:

George Will Calls ‘Repulsive’ Pence Worse Than Trump

George Will is in need of a safe space filled with Play-doh and puppies. That's where one goes when placing heavy emphasis on cherry-picked criteria to further a false narrative. The exposure of true colors continues. And no, I'm not yet tired of winning. Keep it up Trump and Pence, and please accelerate the pace of MAGA. The Liberals hate America so much they can't even celebrate when American captors are rescued...all due to the ideology of the rescuers. All they can do is whine and deflect to personal attacks to prevent acknowledgement of accomplishments. I'm sure the Liberals are hurriedly strategizing on how to give Obama credit for Kim Jong-un's release of the American captors, and naturally concoct new personal attacks on any Conservative. You can focus on a sad, bitter little man's hateful rhetoric. Me, I'll celebrate the many accomplishments of the Trump administration. It's been a long time since I've had anything to celebrate in the political theater (sans the last year of course).

2wedge · May 10, 2018

On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 8:32 PM, Kountzer said:

Since 1844.

This makes no sense, but now that I realize that you are coming at this from a Seventh Day Adventist perspective, I can begin to understand.

Kountzer · May 10, 2018

Makes sense to me. A lot more so than "the late great planet earth" or "Left Behind".

Hagar · May 11, 2018

On 5/5/2018 at 7:18 PM, Kountzer said:

God is very consistent with His mode of operation. As it states in amos 3:7 He doesn't do anything with out first telling his people, usually via prophets. When Adam & Eve were in the garden of Eden he for warned them that Satan had fallen to Earth. When he was getting ready to destroy the earth by flood he had his man Noah preach for 120 years, telling people to get ready. Out of all the billions on the earth at the time only eight paid attention. The rest had their fingers stuck in their ears.

Before Jesus came to this earth as a baby God had laid out his plans and shared them with the people via his prophets. Yet when the event happened hardly anyone knew what had happened. Many of them are still looking for the messaiah, ad he came and left over 2 thousand years ago.

When his people at the time rebelled God warned them that they would be taken into captivity by the babylonians and others.

When it was time for Jesus to die on the cross again it was foretold but no body paid attention.

It is the same thing now. God is getting ready to make another move. He is getting ready to come back to this earth and alter life and time as we know it. He has spread the message via his prophets. The majority of people are doing what they have always done in the past. They are walking around eating & drinking with their fingers in their ears because they think ignorance of the 2nd coming is bliss.

“They think ignorance of the 2nd coming is bliss”. I guess each of us has a different idea on who “They” are. My first thought is the pro-abortion folks and the Democratic Party who perpetuates this atrocity to God and mankind. Comparable to Hitler’s genocide of the Jews. But that’s just speculation on my part. Who goes to heaven and who doesn’t, as with all things pertaining to God, will be based on his decision.

2wedge · May 11, 2018

17 hours ago, Kountzer said:

Makes sense to me. A lot more so than "the late great planet earth" or "Left Behind".

Yeah, those are sketchy also. Try amillennialism.

Kountzer · May 11, 2018

43 minutes ago, 2wedge said:

Yeah, those are sketchy also. Try amillennialism.

The 2nd coming of Christ will be just as real as the first.

stevenash · May 11, 2018

On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 8:32 PM, Kountzer said:

Since 1844.

Hmmm- been getting ready for 174 years- can you give me some idea of whether or not we will wait for one or several ore 174 year periods or can you be even more specific and break it down to something with 25 or 50?

LumRaiderFan · May 11, 2018

5 hours ago, stevenash said:

Hmmm- been getting ready for 174 years- can you give me some idea of whether or not we will wait for one or several ore 174 year periods or can you be even more specific and break it down to something with 25 or 50?

I'll answer...no.

That may not be the answer of some, but it's the right one.

Kountzer · May 12, 2018

People pack their bibles around. They have them in their cars. Bibles are downloaded on their phones. People rightfully claim that God is all powerful, all knowing, all wise. So, why did God have the 2300 day prophecy included in the bible, Daniel 8:14? Is it there for no reason at all? If someone, or some group gives a logical explanation of what this prophecy means why do you doubt it? Do you have a better explanation of what it means? If so share it.

mat · May 12, 2018

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36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,^fbut only the Father.

37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;

39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.

41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.

44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?

46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.

47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions.

48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’

49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.

50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of.

51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Kountzer · May 12, 2018

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Matthew 24 and 25

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In Matthew 24 and 25, Jesus reveals important truths about end times and about how to be prepared. In a sense, these chapters were Christ’s teaching on last-day events. At the same time, looking to the more immediate future, He sees the impending destruction of Jerusalem, a tragedy of catastrophic proportions for His people.

But in Christ’s words to His disciples, He speaks also to His followers in the generations that will follow, including and especially the last one, the one that will be alive when He does return. Jesus doesn’t paint a pretty picture either. Wars, rumors of wars, pestilence, false Christs, and persecution — this will be the lot of the world, and the lot of His church. Amazingly enough, looking back through time, we can see just how accurate His predictions were. Therefore, we can trust Him for the predictions not yet fulfilled in our lifetime.

But Jesus didn’t just warn about what was coming. In Matthew 25 He told parables that, if heeded, will prepare His people for when the “Son of Man” returns. Yes, hard times will come, but He will prepare a people to meet Him when He does come back.

Study this week’s lesson to prepare for Sabbath, May 19.

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A Powerful Confirmation of Prophecy

In the final days before the Cross, the disciples spoke with Jesus on the Mount of Olives. Imagine hearing Jesus say that the temple will be destroyed. Who knows exactly what went on in their minds, but the questions that they asked afterward indicate that they linked the destruction of the temple with “the end of the world” (

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. What overall message did Jesus give to His followers about the last days?

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makes it clear that, among other things, Christ is concerned with deceptions that will confuse His people through the ages and into the end time. Among those deceptions will be false prophets and false Christs. Some will come claiming to represent Christ (false prophets), and some will come claiming to be Christ. And the terrible thing is, people will believe them, too.

We have seen a sad but powerful confirmation of the Word of God. All through history, and even in our day, deceivers have indeed come, saying, “I am the Christ.” What a remarkable prophecy! Living in the time that we do, we can survey the long centuries of history and see (in ways those who lived in Christ’s time couldn’t) just how accurate that prediction was. We shouldn’t be surprised, either, if deceptions like these only increase as we near the final crisis.

Also, in the context of affirmation of faith, look at how Jesus depicted the state of the world. At various times in earth’s history since Christ, people had placed their hope in things they believed would eliminate or at least greatly reduce the sufferings and woe of humanity. Be it political movements or technology or science or reason — at one time or another people have placed great hope that these things would usher in a utopia here on earth. As the painful witness of history has shown again and again, these hopes have always proven ill-founded. The world today is just as Jesus said it would be. Christ’s words, spoken almost two thousand years ago, show just how misguided those hopes really have been.

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Enduring to the End

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Christ’s concern for His people in the end time includes a global deception that causes nations to oppose the true faith and to impose a false worship on the world. Those who stand firm will face hatred, tribulation, and even death.

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“None but those who have fortified the mind with the truths of the Bible will stand through the last great conflict.” — Ellen G. White,

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. What else is crucial for staying faithful to God?

As important as it is to be grounded intellectually in the Word of God, according to Jesus that is still not enough to be able to stand amid the trials that we will face. We have to do what we have learned; that is, we have to obey the truth as it is in Jesus. In the parable above, both builders heard the sayings of Jesus. The difference between them, between enduring and not enduring, was obeying what Jesus had taught.

Why does the one who obeys stand and the one who doesn’t obey fall? What difference does obedience make in keeping a person steady in the faith?

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The “Abomination of Desolation”

In His great discourse on the end time, Christ points to “the abomination of desolation” (

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God declared something an “abomination” when it was a serious violation of His law, such as idolatry (

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These two texts make it clear that Jesus’ prediction includes, in a more immediate sense, the terrible destruction that would come upon Jerusalem in A.D. 70, when pagan Rome would destroy not only the city but the sacred temple, as well.

However, there is a second fulfillment of this prophecy in which the more immediate events, such as the destruction of Jerusalem, stood as a type of future, end-time events. “Christ saw in Jerusalem a symbol of the world hardened in unbelief and rebellion, and hastening on to meet the retributive judgments of God.” — Ellen G. White,

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, the “abomination of desolation” appears in connection with the latter phase of Rome, the papal phase, in which an alternative system of mediation and salvation has been set up, one which seeks to usurp what Christ had done for us and is doing for us now in the heavenly sanctuary.

Daniel 8, particularly verses 9-12, helps place these events in their historical context, with a two-phased Roman power. The first phase, seen in the little horn’s rapid horizontal expansion (

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The Ten Virgins

After His discourse in Matthew 24 about the signs of His coming, in Matthew 25 Jesus talks about how to be prepared for it.

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Jesus starts this phase of His discourse by talking about ten virgins. To be called “virgins” suggested they represented those who professed to be Christians. They were not on Satan’s side of the controversy. They are likened to the kingdom of heaven (

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All ten virgins had lamps, and all went out to meet the bridegroom, which means that they were all looking forward to His coming. There was a delay, and all of these believers in His coming fell asleep. Suddenly, in the dead of night, they all were awakened: the bridegroom was coming (

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The foolish virgins were startled, unprepared. Why? One version says “our lamps are gone out” (

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These virgins represent Christians who are waiting for Christ to return but who have a superficial experience with Him. They have some oil, some working of the Spirit in their lives, but it is merely flickering; they were satisfied with little when they needed much.

“The Spirit works upon man’s heart, according to his desire and consent implanting in him a new nature; but the class represented by the foolish virgins have been content with a superficial work. They do not know God. They have not studied His character; they have not held communion with Him; therefore they do not know how to trust, how to look and live. Their service to God degenerates into a form.” — Ellen G. White,

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What are ways we can look at ourselves and make sure we aren’t making the same mistakes as these people did? If we see ourselves in this role, how can we change?

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Using Your Talents

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Though Jesus told a different parable here than the one just before, both talk about being ready for the return of Christ. Both deal with those who were ready and those who weren’t. And both show the fate of those who, through their own spiritual neglect, faced eternal loss.

Just as the oil represents the Holy Spirit for the ten virgins, so the “bag” or “bags of gold” (

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All the servants in the parable had received goods from their master. Notice, too, that they were the master’s goods (

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Spiritual gifts come from the Holy Spirit (see

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The gifts are already ours in Christ, but our actual possession depends upon our reception of the Holy Spirit and surrender to Him. Here is where the unprofitable servant made his mistake. He had been given a gift but did nothing with it. He left his gift unimproved. He didn’t make an effort to take what he had been graciously given and do something with it. As a result Jesus called him “wicked and lazy” (

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Jesus told this parable in the context of the last days and His return. What does it teach us, then, about how the use of our talents is crucial to being prepared for the last days?

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Further Thought: “The man who received the one talent ‘went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord’s money.’”

“It was the one with the smallest gift who left his talent unimproved. In this is given a warning to all who feel that the smallness of their endowments excuses them from service for Christ. If they could do some great thing, how gladly would they undertake it; but because they can serve only in little things, they think themselves justified in doing nothing. In this they err. The Lord in His distribution of gifts is testing character. The man who neglected to improve his talent proved himself an unfaithful servant. Had he received five talents, he would have buried them as he buried the one. His misuse of the one talent showed that he despised the gifts of heaven”.

“‘He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much.’

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What have been some ideologies and ideals that people have believed would bring about a utopia on earth? What were those ideas, and why, without exception, have all failed?
What is it about obedience to what God tells us to do that strengthens our faith? That is, why is faith without the corresponding works “dead” (

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Think more about the ten virgins. Why should their story be a warning to us that, on the surface and in so many different ways, they all looked and acted alike? How can we make sure we are not as self-deceived as the foolish ones were?
What does it mean that, if possible, even “the elect” could be deceived? What is our understanding of “the elect”? (See

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Inside Story~

Holy Spirit Moment

By Christopher Holland

I stopped going to the Roman Catholic Church when I was 16. The primary reason was that my parents, who taught marriage enrichment classes at the church, were going through a divorce. The priest, who had eaten at our house many times, never visited when my parents parted ways.

I decided that if this was what God and His church were all about, then this wasn’t for me.

Four years passed. I moved from the Chicago area to northern Indiana, where I worked the late shift at a gas station. It was there that I met my future wife, Debbie, who worked up the street at a nursing home.

Debbie and I talked whenever she bought gas. She understood my interest in spiritual matters. My questions reawakened her own interest in her Seventh-day Adventist upbringing.

One night we visited the Pioneer Memorial Church at nearby Andrews University. We had heard that something interesting was happening, and we walked in on the NET 95 satellite evangelistic series led by Mark Finley.

After the meetings ended, I began to study the Bible. I nearly joined another Protestant church but Debbie stopped me with a Bible study on the secret rapture.

Debbie asked me whether I sincerely believed that Christians would be quietly whisked away to heaven. When I shrugged, she gave me a powerful Bible study about how every eye will see Jesus at His Second Coming. It was a Holy Spirit moment.

I was baptized in September 1995, and Debbie was rebaptized a month later. We were married the next spring.

I began to sense a real burden to share the gospel. But how?

The answer came when Andrews University hired me to run the Gazebo restaurant on campus. A perk of the job was a free class every semester. I signed up for a religion class and became convicted that God was calling me to be a minister.

My first evangelistic series took place in the Chicago area where I had grown up. It was like the Lord gave me the opportunity to make good. Several years later, Mark Finley, the evangelist whose NET 95 meetings introduced me to the Adventist message, teamed up with me to lead evangelistic meetings at 34 sites in the Chicago area. More than 500 people were baptized.

Today I am broadcast across Canada as director and speaker for It Is Written, Canada. If you had told me my future when I was 17, I would have blown the froth off my beer and laughed. God leads in an amazing way.

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