ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 0:45 PM, pakronos said: never that!! crosby 38-21....i don't understand why WOS fans can't accept it might not be their year!! it's okay to rebuild. i'm not saying to give up on your team, but wos can't be good every year. just stop. On 9/17/2018 at 9:31 AM, Bootleg said: Crosby catches WOS on a down year. Crosby kicks them while they're down. 42-7 See I have a problem with the word down because it's a cop out saying it's ok to lose. I would kinda agree with u if wos didn't have a chance to win the games they lost and they had plenty of chances too just failed too excuse. Last year it was same in the beginning but no one noticed because they were winning but I did. Its nothing wrong with wos just need to excuse better and play 4 qaurters
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 5:38 PM, LC-M said: Your funny guy. When did you graduate? Did you start for WOS? Also since the WO-S program built you the correct spelling is Newton not netwon. I started 3 years for wos when 8 and 2 was hard to get u in the playoffs, with one true state champion
RedJollyRoger Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 Well, obviously Attitude Isn't Everything... listen y'all. West Orange Stark is a tradition-rich football factory with great kids and great coaching. We ALL pull for the Mighty Mustangs during their deep playoff runs. I applaud CT for playing a tough non-district schedule to get his team prepared for a deep run. The problem is, when you lose....you don't take it well, I understand. Most folks are that fortunate to have a "Always Dominant" team. We have down years, new coaches, rebuilding, etc. So it gets frustrating to have to pattycake y'all through the "tough times". Trust everyone on here....it's gonna be ok, y'all will do fine. Newton is unbelievable this year... It will be a positive learning experience for you program. Go Stangs! Go "Purple Reign"!!!!
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 0:45 PM, pakronos said: never that!! crosby 38-21....i don't understand why WOS fans can't accept it might not be their year!! it's okay to rebuild. i'm not saying to give up on your team, but wos can't be good every year. just stop. So u think just because they lost 2 winnable games it's not they year hmmm. Ok u do know u only need to go 6 and 0 not 16 and 0. If wos doesn't it won't because they were too young. It will because on that day other team was better.
griff Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING said: So u think just because they lost 2 winnable games it's not they year hmmm. Ok u do know u only need to go 6 and 0 not 16 and 0. If wos doesn't it won't because they were too young. It will because on that day other team was better. You sure have invested much commentary into these threads after earlier this season saying none of these games matter. Do you still have that reservation in Dallas? More of our fans need to appreciate the PROCESS of building a winning team. The 2018 WO-S Mustangs are in a different place than we're accustomed to and we must allow more time to become a team capable of reaching the ultimate goal. It will take longer to get to where we want to be this time around. This is one of the reasons why we play the games - the pre-district and district games - games that matter on record and in the development of a team. MrUmp1, L-Train11, Grapemist and 2 others 5
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 5 hours ago, griff said: You sure have invested much commentary into these threads after earlier this season saying none of these games matter. Do you still have that reservation in Dallas? More of our fans need to appreciate the PROCESS of building a winning team. The 2018 WO-S Mustangs are in a different place than we're accustomed to and we must allow more time to become a team capable of reaching the ultimate goal. It will take longer to get to where we want to be this time around. This is one of the reasons why we play the games - the pre-district and district games - games that matter on record and in the development of a team. Fairfield Marriott chief they don't matter but I'm not going sit here and let people talk about wos like it's back to the drawing board because it's not. Like I said if they wasn't in the games they lost I could see everyone's point that think that they have declined some seems to me Nederland and netwon made more plays they did and that's games cut have went wos way just a easy but it didn't and wasn't because they were out manned it was because they didn't get it done plain and simple.they stumble out the gate last year with blown assignments miss tackles etc but like I said nobody noticed because they won the games instead of losing them. dj 1
dj Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 10 hours ago, ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING said: So u think just because they lost 2 winnable games it's not they year hmmm. Ok u do know u only need to go 6 and 0 not 16 and 0. If wos doesn't it won't because they were too young. It will because on that day other team was better. I totally agree. And it brings me back to last year. I truly believe that 9 times out 10 if w.o play PG in a title game we would win.but it only took that one time for us to come out flat and got beat. I truly believe that w.o will have that signature win. And it will spark there season. ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING 1
STiger85 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 53 minutes ago, dj said: I totally agree. And it brings me back to last year. I truly believe that 9 times out 10 if w.o play PG in a title game we would win.but it only took that one time for us to come out flat and got beat. I truly believe that w.o will have that signature win. And it will spark there season. I’m going to disagree with you dj. PG would have won that game 9 times out of 10. That was just a better team and those coaches, didn’t out coach, coached a great game.
Bulldogpower Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 This isn’t the WOS of 2015, if it was I’d have WOS in the W section, but I think Crosby may pull the upper hand. Idk though you never know with cornel, a simple adjustment can mean big changes dj 1
marshman Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, STiger85 said: I’m going to disagree with you dj. PG would have won that game 9 times out of 10. That was just a better team and those coaches, didn’t out coach, coached a great game. And I’ll have to disagree with you. Actually both of you. Neither team would have won 9 out of 10 games. PG was a great team and we did come out flat but even still if 3-4 plays have gone differently WO-S could have won that game. PG was a better team that day but not much better. griff and #1stangfan 2
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 3 hours ago, dj said: I totally agree. And it brings me back to last year. I truly believe that 9 times out 10 if w.o play PG in a title game we would win.but it only took that one time for us to come out flat and got beat. I truly believe that w.o will have that signature win. And it will spark there season. Finally someone else with a brain. And what's funny is nobody talks about the 398 games wos has won r the 112 shutouts, just the 95 losses. The lcm coach back from 94 was talking to me at the car wash about a week ago about the 37 to 6 win they had over wos. I said what about the other 30 something times they played that wos won? For some reason he said he cant recall those. Wos has nothing to prove to anyone. When I die they will bury me at the end of the endzone hopefully 40 years from now and wos will still be the best thing in southeast texas.
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 3 hours ago, STiger85 said: I’m going to disagree with you dj. PG would have won that game 9 times out of 10. That was just a better team and those coaches, didn’t out coach, coached a great game. U have a point they were more physical to. It was to many blown assignments and they made us pay. Thats what I meant about last year it was busted assignments almost every game but since they were winning nobody said too much about it and the secondary is better than it was last year.
dj Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING said: U have a point they were more physical to. It was to many blown assignments and they made us pay. Thats what I meant about last year it was busted assignments almost every game but since they were winning nobody said too much about it and the secondary is better than it was last year. Glad you see that.wo blew assignments that gave up cheap TD .it wasn't PG was more physical. Hate to look back #18, #42 didn't cover there man the whole game for looking in the backfield.that team averaged almost 4ooyds rushing last yr.and it basically was shut down.and bcz of the aggressive defense style they play.what had me worried abt newton this yr.play action and going over the top on us.even in the SC we wasn't able to throw the ball.things just caught up with us.ppl forget madisonville,salado games.we couldn't move the ball.that why hopefully as the season progresses the offense figures it out.bcz the defense will keep us in any game.
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, dj said: Glad you see that.wo blew assignments that gave up cheap TD .it wasn't PG was more physical. Hate to look back #18, #42 didn't cover there man the whole game for looking in the backfield.that team averaged almost 4ooyds rushing last yr.and it basically was shut down.and bcz of the aggressive defense style they play.what had me worried abt newton this yr.play action and going over the top on us.even in the SC we wasn't able to throw the ball.things just caught up with us.ppl forget madisonville,salado games.we couldn't move the ball.that why hopefully as the season progresses the offense figures it out.bcz the defense will keep us in any game. That's what I'm talking about well said. but I didn't wanna point out the players like that. I really thought at some point they would stop biting on the play action so hard but it never happened and finally it caught up with us.
robanadana Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, marshman said: And I’ll have to disagree with you. Actually both of you. Neither team would have won 9 out of 10 games. PG was a great team and we did come out flat but even still if 3-4 plays have gone differently WO-S could have won that game. PG was a better team that day but not much better. I agree with this statement. I've been to the state championship with WOS the last four years in a row; Pleasant Grove was the better team last year but not by much. PG won fair and square and WOS represented SETX as champions the way they always do. Close game between WOS / Crosby but I think Cornell gets the Mustangs on course and they get the W 31-28.
chorizo Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 from the outside looking in,i truly believe that wos is only figuring out better qb play away from finding their way back to jerry world.just my opinion.not saying they can or cant just saying its possible from what ive seen dj 1
3rdone Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 It's funny when WOS is winning and everyone else says in years past "well if we would've made this play or that play we would've beat WOS"...and WOS fans say well you had your chances buddy move on, you didn't make the plays...you lost. NOW the tables are turned and it's WOS fans making that SAME tired excuse..."If we would've made that play or this play we would be GREAT!!! We would be 3-0! Funny when the shoe is on the other foot. Every team that comes out of WOS is not equal just because their helmets are silver and blue. If some of you can't admit that, then there's no need to argue the point. CCRed and RedJollyRoger 2
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, 3rdone said: It's funny when WOS is winning and everyone else says in years past "well if we would've made this play or that play we would've beat WOS"...and WOS fans say well you had your chances buddy move on, you didn't make the plays...you lost. NOW the tables are turned and it's WOS fans making that SAME tired excuse..."If we would've made that play or this play we would be GREAT!!! We would be 3-0! Funny when the shoe is on the other foot. Every team that comes out of WOS is not equal just because their helmets are silver and blue. If some of you can't admit that, then there's no need to argue the point. No I've said Nederland and netwon were the better that that night and made more plays the we did. My point is we didn't lose because we r young or whatever people say for copouts, we lost because we just didn't get it done and they did
Cougar14.2 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, robanadana said: I agree with this statement. I've been to the state championship with WOS the last four years in a row; Pleasant Grove was the better team last year but not by much. PG won fair and square and WOS represented SETX as champions the way they always do. Close game between WOS / Crosby but I think Cornell gets the Mustangs on course and they get the W 31-28. Crosby basically put 50 on Manvel if they'd let us kick the XP but you believe WOS will hold Crosby to 28? Manvel beat their other two opponents a combined 110-6. Meanwhile if you remove the LCM game WOS is truly averaging about 9.5 offensive points per game and you think they're going to somehow get 31 on Crosby? NC's offense is exponentially better than WOS' at this point in the season and they were held to a hot 14 points at home, they just put 68 on Willis after putting 38 on what will be the 6A HISD district runner-up behind Lamar. Crosby can come out and turn the ball over multiple times and get in trouble but if that's not the case I don't see how WOS gets anywhere near a win. By the way, PG was significantly better than WOS that day. Better qb play, better offensive execution and better on both sides of the lines of scrimmage. *Key the, you don't know what they've done in the past talk.
3rdone Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING said: No I've said Nederland and netwon were the better that that night and made more plays the we did. My point is we didn't lose because we r young or whatever people say for copouts, we lost because we just didn't get it done and they did So every team, every year, whether they lose 20 senior starters or 1 starter WOS trots out the same team with NO drop off in talent or "experience"? Essentially that's what you're saying. So inexperience is not an excuse or for that matter even a factor? You can't be serious. The reason those routine plays were not made on those nights, is because of those things not in spite of. You do know that right? That's why and how teams improve. It's ok to admit that. Newton was just better...BECAUSE of the experience and senior leadership...that was the difference...come on man.
Tiger33 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Report Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, 3rdone said: So every team, every year, whether they lose 20 senior starters or 1 starter WOS trots out the same team with NO drop off in talent or "experience"? Essentially that's what you're saying. So inexperience is not an excuse or for that matter even a factor? You can't be serious. The reason those routine plays were not made on those nights, is because of those things not in spite of. You do know that right? That's why and how teams improve. It's ok to admit that. Newton was just better...BECAUSE of the experience and senior leadership...that was the difference...come on man. He is the most knowledgeable person over WOS football on this site. Coach T approved this message.
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, 3rdone said: So every team, every year, whether they lose 20 senior starters or 1 starter WOS trots out the same team with NO drop off in talent or "experience"? Essentially that's what you're saying. So inexperience is not an excuse or for that matter even a factor? You can't be serious. The reason those routine plays were not made on those nights, is because of those things not in spite of. You do know that right? That's why and how teams improve. It's ok to admit that. Newton was just better...BECAUSE of the experience and senior leadership...that was the difference...come on man. So if wos had won the game then netwon is still loaded with the same d1 players but the lost the game what would you be saying. I'll tell u what you would be saying the wos made the plays and netwon didn't. That what it always comes down to every on every level and I already said netwon was the better and wos had their chances to win the game. But believe whatever u like the bottom line is gotta play better on all phases young or not. And wos has won 3 of 4 titles with freshmens sophomores and juniors starting and we have lost titles with more seniors on the team.
GUNHO Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 We have reloaded with a young team in the pass....but there was plenty of talent left.We are rebuilding not reloading and there is just not that much talent this year to start with.That will develop with experience.We are losing games because at this point in time we do not have the experience to make the plays we need to.The more we play the better we should get.How much better I have no idea.I'm just going to let this season play out and see what happens.Go Mustangs.
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, LC-M said: He is the most knowledgeable person over WOS football on this site. Coach T approved this message. And I do keep in touch with coach t when I'm outta town working. Him, his wife and their church prayed for me when I was going back and forth to md Anderson. I told him that just about everybody on this talk about wos then their own school Tiger33 1
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