Manofsteel Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Bootleg said: In not arguing . Im just saying compared to humble, leckelt and Bollinger that we lack the speed , physicality and elusiveness at that position. The qb does run hard but stands straight up before contact and looks to be in a position to get hurt by doing so and we need him. The Slot-T can be misleading when reading into running stats. Its still early on in the season and I'm sure their game speed will improve. I’m not trying to argue just giving my opinion. Mytwocents3788 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, L-Train11 said: But there’s not much of a passing threat. And against good defenses that’s what is killing Silsbee, everybody keys on the run. He passes just about the same as Johnson, IMO, just more athletic. IMO, does the offense better.... KF89 and L-Train11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, KF89 said: NEDERLAND STRENGTHS- Defense,Offensive line & Senior Leadership weakness- self inflicted mistakes on offense in the red zone negating td's, snaps on punts & center to qb snaps when starting qb goes out I would add RB depth to the strengths list outanup and KF89 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool2 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: I was gonna just copy/paste the roster, but that MIGHT have been considered bad taste. Awesome response. I generally don't type "lol" unless I actually lough out loud. Definitely laughed at this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootleg Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Manofsteel said: I’m not trying to argue just giving my opinion. Cool, I respect your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionpride08 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Franklin: Strength is defense all around, experience with 10 starters returned Weakness is turnovers (usually have turn over problems early in season then clean it up)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleMoe Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Newton Strength ..offense/defense loaded with athletes great coaching staff. Weakness .. having to wait a week before playing again. Eagles81, RedJollyRoger, Alpha Wolf and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 22 hours ago, KF89 said: NEDERLAND STRENGTHS- Defense,Offensive line & Senior Leadership weakness- self inflicted mistakes on offense in the red zone negating td's, snaps on punts & center to qb snaps when starting qb goes out And too many penalties in general - under weaknesses. KF89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBallCoach Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 11:03 PM, Bulldogs92 said: Jasper's playing really well right now. I think the defense is the biggest strength right now. The passing game is unproven because we haven't needed it and probably won't until the WOS game. The coaching staff should use the early possessions in these next two games (Livingston, LaMarque) to mix in a few passing plays to give our quarterback some confidence. I think you and every other Jasper fan agrees.... Just not sure we will see it. We know we can run, but can we drop back and throw the ball downfield if someone puts 9 or 10 guys in the box??? Jasper has all the tools this year to have a potent passing game to COMPLIMENT their awesome running attack. a 6'5" All-State pitcher at QB, tall fast receivers with very good hands, a young O-Line that is coming into their own and blocking very well, and a half dozen running backs that are tough blockers and have good hands as well.....They just don't seam to have any desire to really build the passing game. Passing only when you need to or HAVE TO is a bad recipe for big time success. I am afraid that if we don't work hard at developing a passing game we will see an early exit from the playoffs .... losing again to a team that we have superior athletes in comparison to. With all of that being said, on the bright side, we are averaging 9 pass attempts per game this season compared to 7.6 per game last year.... moving in the right direction! lol Just once.... I would love to see us after a big turnover or even on a second down and short..... go for the kill shot! Turn the big QB loose and throw it deep down the field! Bulldogs92 and jdog90 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs92 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, OldBallCoach said: I think you and every other Jasper fan agrees.... Just not sure we will see it. We know we can run, but can we drop back and throw the ball downfield if someone puts 9 or 10 guys in the box??? Jasper has all the tools this year to have a potent passing game to COMPLIMENT their awesome running attack. a 6'5" All-State pitcher at QB, tall fast receivers with very good hands, a young O-Line that is coming into their own and blocking very well, and a half dozen running backs that are tough blockers and have good hands as well.....They just don't seam to have any desire to really build the passing game. Passing only when you need to or HAVE TO is a bad recipe for big time success. I am afraid that if we don't work hard at developing a passing game we will see an early exit from the playoffs .... losing again to a team that we have superior athletes in comparison to. With all of that being said, on the bright side, we are averaging 9 pass attempts per game this season compared to 7.6 per game last year.... moving in the right direction! lol Just once.... I would love to see us after a big turnover or even on a second down and short..... go for the kill shot! Turn the big QB loose and throw it deep down the field! I remember talking to Coach Walkoviak about the same thing years ago when Ben Bronson was the quarterback. We probably threw about a dozen times a game and had pretty good backs, but he always said that there was more risk for turnovers in the passing game, He was right, but Ben had a cannon for someone that was only 5'9" and he was pretty accurate, too. I think Coach Barbay has a lot of his dad's philosophies that worked for so long and it's probably not easy to deviate from that. jdog90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortArthur33 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 PAM Def Strengths: Of course the front seven are phenomenal, and they have depth. I would start #47 Thomas tho. They will intimidate most teams they play. I love that confidence they play with. That is an advantage in itself. Lol PAM Def Weaknesses: Height in the secondary outside of the Safety Washington. Sooner or later, they'll really get tested. Notice I said height and not talent. PAM Off Strengths & Weaknesses: As Morgan said, the only negative with his QB is experience and it showed. Super arm talent. His timing with his Wrs will only get better. Bad Center play threw the passing game off. No qb can get in a groove dealing with that. Chaney will run as hard as any Rb in the area, plus a talented backup in Williams. They're just young. Oline is decent, but when the starting Center gets healthy, they'll be ok. Wrs are pretty good, but they dont have that player that can take the top off of a defense like Angelle or Hull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETX Football Lover Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 13 hours ago, PortArthur33 said: PAM Def Strengths: Of course the front seven are phenomenal, and they have depth. I would start #47 Thomas tho. They will intimidate most teams they play. I love that confidence they play with. That is an advantage in itself. Lol PAM Def Weaknesses: Height in the secondary outside of the Safety Washington. Sooner or later, they'll really get tested. Notice I said height and not talent. PAM Off Strengths & Weaknesses: As Morgan said, the only negative with his QB is experience and it showed. Super arm talent. His timing with his Wrs will only get better. Bad Center play threw the passing game off. No qb can get in a groove dealing with that. Chaney will run as hard as any Rb in the area, plus a talented backup in Williams. They're just young. Oline is decent, but when the starting Center gets healthy, they'll be ok. Wrs are pretty good, but they dont have that player that can take the top off of a defense like Angelle or Hull. In 2016 another team had bad snaps to deal with. Here, they took a Loss. Those points would be the difference in this particular game but I'm sure no one would admit that. 33-28 Pam holds on in 2016. Bad snaps are hard to deal with. But some Qbs have the ability to make something out of nothing, regardless of who is snapping the ball. 3 games All in the same year from a 15 year old, NOT a Senior. No hard feelings, i just love the back and forth between you guys. RoschonsBigBro, L-Train11 and Alpha Wolf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoschonsBigBro Posted September 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 Lol yall go harder than I do nowadays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETX Football Lover Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, ROSCHONSBIGBRO said: Lol yall go harder than I do nowadays! lol Im not a PNG fan but I follow your brother since I live here now. I also just like arguing about sports for the sake of argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortArthur33 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, WHO DAT???? said: lol Im not a PNG fan but I follow your brother since I live here now. I also just like arguing about sports for the sake of argument. One thing I don't do on sports forums is argue. I don't argue over opinions. That's the difference between you and myself. Lol I'm not hardup over high school kids playing football my man. I gave my opinion to a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortArthur33 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 If I hadn't said it before, RJ is the best QB in this area 've ever seen. A player that good talent and ability shouldn't be up for discussion. With that being said, your argument about his talent is null and void with me. Lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETX Football Lover Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 47 minutes ago, PortArthur33 said: If I hadn't said it before, RJ is the best QB in this area 've ever seen. A player that good talent and ability shouldn't be up for discussion. With that being said, your argument about his talent is null and void with me. Lmao. Ah man Im teasing more than anything. No hard feelings. I like that we can go back and forth and not be evil to one another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETX Football Lover Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, PortArthur33 said: One thing I don't do on sports forums is argue. I don't argue over opinions. That's the difference between you and myself. Lol I'm not hardup over high school kids playing football my man. I gave my opinion to a question. Hold up I thought we were playin nice till I read that. if you are not hard up, why do you take the bait every time? Honestly the difference is im the hook and you are the fish, my man Told ya, Im a troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortArthur33 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, WHO DAT???? said: Hold up I thought we were playin nice till I read that. if you are not hard up, why do you take the bait every time? Honestly the difference is im the hook and you are the fish, my man Told ya, Im a troll This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robanadana Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 0:16 PM, Bootleg said: In not arguing . Im just saying compared to humble, leckelt and Bollinger that we lack the speed , physicality and elusiveness at that position. The qb does run hard but stands straight up before contact and looks to be in a position to get hurt by doing so and we need him. The Slot-T can be misleading when reading into running stats. Its still early on in the season and I'm sure their game speed will improve. The Pirate Defense and Offensive Line are really shining this year. Our special teams need work especially kicking which is usually a strength with us. Running backs are about as talented as they ever are...we never have break away speed. Gage is a good QB and manages the team well. We'll see in two weeks where we stand when we get Cosby then PNG but I like our chances vying for one of the playoff spots. Coaching is the biggest strength we have. Jeff and his staff are doing an outstanding job putting out a team that competes even though we keep losing dozens of kids every year. I'm thinking we may be 4A by 2020. Call me Homer all day long but we're in the playoff mix every year which says volumes about them. Alpha Wolf, RoschonsBigBro and Mytwocents3788 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, robanadana said: The Pirate Defense and Offensive Line are really shining this year. Our special teams need work especially kicking which is usually a strength with us. Running backs are about as talented as they ever are...we never have break away speed. Gage is a good QB and manages the team well. We'll see in two weeks where we stand when we get Cosby then PNG but I like our chances vying for one of the playoff spots. Coaching is the biggest strength we have. Jeff and his staff are doing an outstanding job putting out a team that competes even though we keep losing dozens of kids every year. I'm thinking we may be 4A by 2020. Call me Homer all day long but we're in the playoff mix every year which says volumes about them. What was Vidor’s number for the last realignment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Wolf Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, bigdog said: What was Vidor’s number for the last realignment? According to DC, 1,331. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navydawg31 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 Losing 182 kids in two years is a big steep loss. If the numbers hold up to what they are. I know the hurricane messed vidor up but that’s losing a lot BMTSoulja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootleg Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 hours ago, robanadana said: The Pirate Defense and Offensive Line are really shining this year. Our special teams need work especially kicking which is usually a strength with us. Running backs are about as talented as they ever are...we never have break away speed. Gage is a good QB and manages the team well. We'll see in two weeks where we stand when we get Cosby then PNG but I like our chances vying for one of the playoff spots. Coaching is the biggest strength we have. Jeff and his staff are doing an outstanding job putting out a team that competes even though we keep losing dozens of kids every year. I'm thinking we may be 4A by 2020. Call me Homer all day long but we're in the playoff mix every year which says volumes about them. I agree for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytwocents3788 Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Bootleg said: I agree for the most part. Which part don’t you agree with??? Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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