L-Train11 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 10 hours ago, ST413 said: Why would that be a problem. We have had some good qbs that played hoops as well. Yeah but it seems like more kids have the “one sport” mentality these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Hmmm, LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either.... LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE “Bears”YEAR W-L-T PTS-OPP COACH1970 4-6-0 183-239 Jim Crossland1971 6-4-0 132-160 Jim Crossland1972 7-3-0 157-114 Jim Crossland1973 4-6-0 108-147 Jim Crossland1974 5-5-0 217-196 Randall Dorsett1975 3-7-0 156-260 Randall Dorsett1976 3-4-2 101-122 Lidney Thompson1977 4-5-1 107-210 Lidney Thompson1978 4-6-0 109-138 Lidney Thompson1979 6-4-0 166-149 Lidney Thompson1980 3-7-0 85-194 Lidney Thompson1981 7-3-0 266-150 Ron Dupree1982 4-6-0 176-176 Ron Dupree1983 7-3-0 268- 89 Ron Dupree1984 2-8-0 243-223 Ron Dupree1985 2-8-0 129-254 Pat Wozniak1986 4-6-0 91-204 Pat Wozniak1987 4-6-0 158-198 Pat Wozniak1988 1-8-0 90-233 Pat Wozniak1989 4-5-1 156-211 Lucky Gamble1990 5-5-0 223-247 Lucky Gamble1991 7-3-0 181- 88 Rhodney Russell1992 R 5-5-1 184-178 Rhodney Russell1993 5-5-0 154-158 Rhodney Russell1994 C-- 11-1-0 311- 70 David Williams1995 R 9-2-0 240-139 David Williams1996 5-5-0 192-182 David Williams1997 R-- 11-3-0 412-170 David Williams1998 4-6-0 177-193 David Williams1999 3-7-0 179-246 David Williams2000 2-8-0 123-283 David Williams2001 3-6-0 181-188 David Williams2002 2-8-0 104-252 David Williams2003 5-5-0 172-206 David Williams2004 3-7-0 148-252 David Williams2005 2-6-0 122-209 Todd Moody2006 5-5-0 214-150 Todd Moody2007 1-9-0 132-283 Todd Moody2008 0-8-0 73-337 Todd Moody2009 4-6-0 217-294 Randy Crouch2010 7-3-0 366-292 Randy Crouch2011 4-6-0 199-249 Randy Crouch2012 4-6-0 291-290 Randy Crouch2013 F-- 5-5-0 198-233 Randy Crouch2014 T 5-6-0 217-202 Randy Crouch2015 2-8-0 301-304 Randy Crouch2016 T 5-6-0 305-404 Randy Crouch2017 TH 4-5-0 250-314 Randy CrouchALL-TIME RECORD: 212-265-5 8- 1- 0Playoff Record: 4-7-1 VP93.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST413 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, L-Train11 said: Yeah but it seems like more kids have the “one sport” mentality these days. True but I can think of two qbs in the recent past that we’re good in the field and court. Dontre Thomas and Willie Jones. L-Train11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-Train11 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bigdog said: Hmmm, LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either.... LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE “Bears”YEAR W-L-T PTS-OPP COACH1970 4-6-0 183-239 Jim Crossland1971 6-4-0 132-160 Jim Crossland1972 7-3-0 157-114 Jim Crossland1973 4-6-0 108-147 Jim Crossland1974 5-5-0 217-196 Randall Dorsett1975 3-7-0 156-260 Randall Dorsett1976 3-4-2 101-122 Lidney Thompson1977 4-5-1 107-210 Lidney Thompson1978 4-6-0 109-138 Lidney Thompson1979 6-4-0 166-149 Lidney Thompson1980 3-7-0 85-194 Lidney Thompson1981 7-3-0 266-150 Ron Dupree1982 4-6-0 176-176 Ron Dupree1983 7-3-0 268- 89 Ron Dupree1984 2-8-0 243-223 Ron Dupree1985 2-8-0 129-254 Pat Wozniak1986 4-6-0 91-204 Pat Wozniak1987 4-6-0 158-198 Pat Wozniak1988 1-8-0 90-233 Pat Wozniak1989 4-5-1 156-211 Lucky Gamble1990 5-5-0 223-247 Lucky Gamble1991 7-3-0 181- 88 Rhodney Russell1992 R 5-5-1 184-178 Rhodney Russell1993 5-5-0 154-158 Rhodney Russell1994 C-- 11-1-0 311- 70 David Williams1995 R 9-2-0 240-139 David Williams1996 5-5-0 192-182 David Williams1997 R-- 11-3-0 412-170 David Williams1998 4-6-0 177-193 David Williams1999 3-7-0 179-246 David Williams2000 2-8-0 123-283 David Williams2001 3-6-0 181-188 David Williams2002 2-8-0 104-252 David Williams2003 5-5-0 172-206 David Williams2004 3-7-0 148-252 David Williams2005 2-6-0 122-209 Todd Moody2006 5-5-0 214-150 Todd Moody2007 1-9-0 132-283 Todd Moody2008 0-8-0 73-337 Todd Moody2009 4-6-0 217-294 Randy Crouch2010 7-3-0 366-292 Randy Crouch2011 4-6-0 199-249 Randy Crouch2012 4-6-0 291-290 Randy Crouch2013 F-- 5-5-0 198-233 Randy Crouch2014 T 5-6-0 217-202 Randy Crouch2015 2-8-0 301-304 Randy Crouch2016 T 5-6-0 305-404 Randy Crouch2017 TH 4-5-0 250-314 Randy CrouchALL-TIME RECORD: 212-265-5 8- 1- 0Playoff Record: 4-7-1 But they are better than Lumberton so that’s good enough right lol Tiger33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, ST413 said: True but I can think of two qbs in the recent past that we’re good in the field and court. Dontre Thomas and Willie Jones. Add Patrick Reed to that list. BMTSoulja1 and ST413 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, ST413 said: True but I can think of two qbs in the recent past that we’re good in the field and court. Dontre Thomas and Willie Jones. Pat Reed? ST413 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST413 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said: Add Patrick Reed to that list. Definitely just another year or 2 back. Had another big TD reception(79yds) for NM this past weekend by the ESPN stats as well!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 hours ago, bigdog said: Hmmm, LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either.... LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE “Bears”YEAR W-L-T PTS-OPP COACH1970 4-6-0 183-239 Jim Crossland1971 6-4-0 132-160 Jim Crossland1972 7-3-0 157-114 Jim Crossland1973 4-6-0 108-147 Jim Crossland1974 5-5-0 217-196 Randall Dorsett1975 3-7-0 156-260 Randall Dorsett1976 3-4-2 101-122 Lidney Thompson1977 4-5-1 107-210 Lidney Thompson1978 4-6-0 109-138 Lidney Thompson1979 6-4-0 166-149 Lidney Thompson1980 3-7-0 85-194 Lidney Thompson1981 7-3-0 266-150 Ron Dupree1982 4-6-0 176-176 Ron Dupree1983 7-3-0 268- 89 Ron Dupree1984 2-8-0 243-223 Ron Dupree1985 2-8-0 129-254 Pat Wozniak1986 4-6-0 91-204 Pat Wozniak1987 4-6-0 158-198 Pat Wozniak1988 1-8-0 90-233 Pat Wozniak1989 4-5-1 156-211 Lucky Gamble1990 5-5-0 223-247 Lucky Gamble1991 7-3-0 181- 88 Rhodney Russell1992 R 5-5-1 184-178 Rhodney Russell1993 5-5-0 154-158 Rhodney Russell1994 C-- 11-1-0 311- 70 David Williams1995 R 9-2-0 240-139 David Williams1996 5-5-0 192-182 David Williams1997 R-- 11-3-0 412-170 David Williams1998 4-6-0 177-193 David Williams1999 3-7-0 179-246 David Williams2000 2-8-0 123-283 David Williams2001 3-6-0 181-188 David Williams2002 2-8-0 104-252 David Williams2003 5-5-0 172-206 David Williams2004 3-7-0 148-252 David Williams2005 2-6-0 122-209 Todd Moody2006 5-5-0 214-150 Todd Moody2007 1-9-0 132-283 Todd Moody2008 0-8-0 73-337 Todd Moody2009 4-6-0 217-294 Randy Crouch2010 7-3-0 366-292 Randy Crouch2011 4-6-0 199-249 Randy Crouch2012 4-6-0 291-290 Randy Crouch2013 F-- 5-5-0 198-233 Randy Crouch2014 T 5-6-0 217-202 Randy Crouch2015 2-8-0 301-304 Randy Crouch2016 T 5-6-0 305-404 Randy Crouch2017 TH 4-5-0 250-314 Randy CrouchALL-TIME RECORD: 212-265-5 8- 1- 0Playoff Record: 4-7-1 No we are not just Better than Lumberton lol. But on a serious note Lumberton and Vidor does have the worst winning percentages in the state. if we keep going on with our coaching style we will end up like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 hours ago, bigdog said: Hmmm, LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either.... LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE “Bears”YEAR W-L-T PTS-OPP COACH1970 4-6-0 183-239 Jim Crossland1971 6-4-0 132-160 Jim Crossland1972 7-3-0 157-114 Jim Crossland1973 4-6-0 108-147 Jim Crossland1974 5-5-0 217-196 Randall Dorsett1975 3-7-0 156-260 Randall Dorsett1976 3-4-2 101-122 Lidney Thompson1977 4-5-1 107-210 Lidney Thompson1978 4-6-0 109-138 Lidney Thompson1979 6-4-0 166-149 Lidney Thompson1980 3-7-0 85-194 Lidney Thompson1981 7-3-0 266-150 Ron Dupree1982 4-6-0 176-176 Ron Dupree1983 7-3-0 268- 89 Ron Dupree1984 2-8-0 243-223 Ron Dupree1985 2-8-0 129-254 Pat Wozniak1986 4-6-0 91-204 Pat Wozniak1987 4-6-0 158-198 Pat Wozniak1988 1-8-0 90-233 Pat Wozniak1989 4-5-1 156-211 Lucky Gamble1990 5-5-0 223-247 Lucky Gamble1991 7-3-0 181- 88 Rhodney Russell1992 R 5-5-1 184-178 Rhodney Russell1993 5-5-0 154-158 Rhodney Russell1994 C-- 11-1-0 311- 70 David Williams1995 R 9-2-0 240-139 David Williams1996 5-5-0 192-182 David Williams1997 R-- 11-3-0 412-170 David Williams1998 4-6-0 177-193 David Williams1999 3-7-0 179-246 David Williams2000 2-8-0 123-283 David Williams2001 3-6-0 181-188 David Williams2002 2-8-0 104-252 David Williams2003 5-5-0 172-206 David Williams2004 3-7-0 148-252 David Williams2005 2-6-0 122-209 Todd Moody2006 5-5-0 214-150 Todd Moody2007 1-9-0 132-283 Todd Moody2008 0-8-0 73-337 Todd Moody2009 4-6-0 217-294 Randy Crouch2010 7-3-0 366-292 Randy Crouch2011 4-6-0 199-249 Randy Crouch2012 4-6-0 291-290 Randy Crouch2013 F-- 5-5-0 198-233 Randy Crouch2014 T 5-6-0 217-202 Randy Crouch2015 2-8-0 301-304 Randy Crouch2016 T 5-6-0 305-404 Randy Crouch2017 TH 4-5-0 250-314 Randy CrouchALL-TIME RECORD: 212-265-5 8- 1- 0Playoff Record: 4-7-1 LITTLE CYPRESS “Bears” you forgot the first 13 year so actually its 294-319-8 all time so we can get the numbers correctYEAR W-L-T PTS-OPP COACH 1956 5-5-0 79-166 Robert Miller 1957 2-7-1 115-260 Robert Miller 1958 5-3-1 194-136 Robert Miller 1959 3-7-0 128-229 Ted Miller 1960 TRI 7-2-0 160- 60 Ted Miller 1961 C-- 10-1-0 280-105 Ted Miller 1962 4-6-0 132-105 Ted Miller 1963 9-1-0 161- 55 Ted Miller 1964 5-4-0 154-128 Ted Miller 1965 7-3-0 118- 61 Ted Miller 1966 3-6-1 92- 96 Ted Miller 1967 5-5-0 151-143 Jim Crossland 1968 7-3-0 209-120 Jim Crossland 1969 C 10-1-0 351-138 Jim Crossland CONSOLIDATED WITH MAURICEVILLEALL-TIME RECORD: 82-54-3 2- 3- 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers2010 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Both teams are irrelevant. Neither are going anyway outside Round 2. This thread is Silsbee/Lumberton. With Lumberton as banged up as they are, who knows how they finish. LCM is trash at full health. Tiger33 and Coach #23 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoschonsBigBro Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 hours ago, L-Train11 said: Yeah but it seems like more kids have the “one sport” mentality these days. There a few kids who played with Shug as children but never cared to play in high school and now they play either basketball, baseball, or soccer exclusively so that they can work on what they are best at I assume. Wish a few of them wouldve come along for the ride L-Train11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: Both teams are irrelevant. Neither are going anyway outside Round 2. This thread is Silsbee/Lumberton. With Lumberton as banged up as they are, who knows how they finish. LCM is trash at full health. Coming from a guy that doesn't even support a HS on here don't mean much to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers2010 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, LC-M said: Coming from a guy that doesn't even support a HS on here don't mean much for me. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTROD309 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 18 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said: I think the young man's name is Briscoe Jayden Briscoe... throws a really good ball .. reminds me of Trey Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Pig Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 22 hours ago, bigdog said: Hmmm, LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either.... LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE “Bears”YEAR W-L-T PTS-OPP COACH1970 4-6-0 183-239 Jim Crossland1971 6-4-0 132-160 Jim Crossland1972 7-3-0 157-114 Jim Crossland1973 4-6-0 108-147 Jim Crossland1974 5-5-0 217-196 Randall Dorsett1975 3-7-0 156-260 Randall Dorsett1976 3-4-2 101-122 Lidney Thompson1977 4-5-1 107-210 Lidney Thompson1978 4-6-0 109-138 Lidney Thompson1979 6-4-0 166-149 Lidney Thompson1980 3-7-0 85-194 Lidney Thompson1981 7-3-0 266-150 Ron Dupree1982 4-6-0 176-176 Ron Dupree1983 7-3-0 268- 89 Ron Dupree1984 2-8-0 243-223 Ron Dupree1985 2-8-0 129-254 Pat Wozniak1986 4-6-0 91-204 Pat Wozniak1987 4-6-0 158-198 Pat Wozniak1988 1-8-0 90-233 Pat Wozniak1989 4-5-1 156-211 Lucky Gamble1990 5-5-0 223-247 Lucky Gamble1991 7-3-0 181- 88 Rhodney Russell1992 R 5-5-1 184-178 Rhodney Russell1993 5-5-0 154-158 Rhodney Russell1994 C-- 11-1-0 311- 70 David Williams1995 R 9-2-0 240-139 David Williams1996 5-5-0 192-182 David Williams1997 R-- 11-3-0 412-170 David Williams1998 4-6-0 177-193 David Williams1999 3-7-0 179-246 David Williams2000 2-8-0 123-283 David Williams2001 3-6-0 181-188 David Williams2002 2-8-0 104-252 David Williams2003 5-5-0 172-206 David Williams2004 3-7-0 148-252 David Williams2005 2-6-0 122-209 Todd Moody2006 5-5-0 214-150 Todd Moody2007 1-9-0 132-283 Todd Moody2008 0-8-0 73-337 Todd Moody2009 4-6-0 217-294 Randy Crouch2010 7-3-0 366-292 Randy Crouch2011 4-6-0 199-249 Randy Crouch2012 4-6-0 291-290 Randy Crouch2013 F-- 5-5-0 198-233 Randy Crouch2014 T 5-6-0 217-202 Randy Crouch2015 2-8-0 301-304 Randy Crouch2016 T 5-6-0 305-404 Randy Crouch2017 TH 4-5-0 250-314 Randy CrouchALL-TIME RECORD: 212-265-5 8- 1- 0Playoff Record: 4-7-1 Bottom line is predominately white football teams in southeast Texas are going to be mediocre at best(on a year in year out basis). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, Uncle Pig said: Bottom line is predominately white football teams in southeast Texas are going to be mediocre at best(on a year in year out basis). But why? There are many predominantly white teams around that compete at a high level year in and year out... What are they doing that we aren't? We're serious about our football as they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers2010 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 51 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said: But why? There are many predominantly white teams around that compete at a high level year in and year out... What are they doing that we aren't? We're serious about our football as they are... There is a difference in being serious about football, and being SERIOUS about football. We like to think this area lives and breathes the game and what not. The difference is the serious kids, white or black, in the DFW area and others actually live and breathe the game, the good teams anyway. Not just August to November. That may not be an opinion that is accepted but I bet the Highland Park kids do 100x more football than what we do here. CardinalBacker and BMTSoulja1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: There is a difference in being serious about football, and being SERIOUS about football. We like to think this area lives and breathes the game and what not. The difference is the serious kids, white or black, in the DFW area and others actually live and breathe the game, the good teams anyway. Not just August to November. That may not be an opinion that is accepted but I bet the Highland Park kids do 100x more football than what we do here. Like what? There at restrictions for what you can do in the off-season. I know some of our teams push the envelope, but you should see the equal amount of success for our teams just like those other teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers2010 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said: Like what? There at restrictions for what you can do in the off-season. I know some of our teams push the envelope, but you should see the equal amount of success for our teams just like those other teams... Private parent-paid coaches. Like the private hitting/pitching instructors for baseball lessons. I am meaning like kids taking more of an initiative outside of the school ball stuff. I could be wrong, but I can definitely see that type of stuff being different. BMTSoulja1 and Raiders94 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 48 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: Private parent-paid coaches. Like the private hitting/pitching instructors for baseball lessons. I am meaning like kids taking more of an initiative outside of the school ball stuff. I could be wrong, but I can definitely see that type of stuff being different. That comes down to money, not desire. Comparing Highland Park and some of the Houston areas to this area is apples to oranges. BMTSoulja1 and Raiders94 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers2010 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, bigdog said: That comes down to money, not desire. Comparing Highland Park and some of the Houston areas to this area is apples to oranges. The question is why it is better in other areas. Regardless if it is about money, that is one of the answers.For the record there are thousands of kids in this area that pay for private baseball and basketball coaches and pay to be on select teams and travel ball teams. Money is an issue for some not for all, and I would venture to guess it is not the issue for the majority. That is an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: The question is why it is better in other areas. Regardless if it is about money, that is one of the answers.For the record there are thousands of kids in this area that pay for private baseball and basketball coaches and pay to be on select teams and travel ball teams. Money is an issue for some not for all, and I would venture to guess it is not the issue for the majority. That is an excuse. I disagree, actually with the whole premise as I have already had this discussion before not even a week ago. I don't want to rehash that whole thread again, but there are teams (white teams as you put it) in this area that have made deep runs fairly recently in the playoffs and can always do it again if everything falls right. There is always a modicum of luck involved in a deep run , the playoff draw, a fumble goes the right way, weather. I have seen teams from here win playoff games that no one picked them to win many times. That's what makes the playoffs interesting. BMTSoulja1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders94 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: The question is why it is better in other areas. Regardless if it is about money, that is one of the answers.For the record there are thousands of kids in this area that pay for private baseball and basketball coaches and pay to be on select teams and travel ball teams. Money is an issue for some not for all, and I would venture to guess it is not the issue for the majority. That is an excuse. I'm sure its hard for some parents to get their kids to some camps. I pay a good bit of money for position specific camps and it does help. But also their are situations where players positions changes ( linebacker to guard) and the parents feel like they have wasted their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers2010 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, bigdog said: I disagree, actually with the whole premise as I have already had this discussion before not even a week ago. I don't want to rehash that whole thread again, but there are teams (white teams as you put it) in this area that have made deep runs fairly recently in the playoffs and can always do it again if everything falls right. There is always a modicum of luck involved in a deep run , the playoff draw, a fumble goes the right way, weather. I have seen teams from here win playoff games that no one picked them to win many times. That's what makes the playoffs interesting. I didn't put it that way. There has been a handful of people in the last couple of weeks put it that way, I have not. I try to stay away from that. I'm confused on what you disagree with. We seems to be on the same page. I am assuming that you disagree that other areas take a more active approach to winning rather than hoping to make a run every few years or hoping to get a fumble or pick six? I don't have the data but I would bet the farm that the teams that are consistently in the mix every year, do more than just breed the athletes. It has to be a lifestyle to win big time highschool football games. It's not a August to November life and win a title. It has to be your job year around, and I imaging that those teams that are in it every year dedicate their time and money to winning it. Idk, everybody has opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 Not to mention it is all cyclical. Mojo was a terror in the 70s and 80s, but have faded away now. WOS went 28 years in between state championship runs. Katy has won championship in the 50's and then wasn't back until the 2000's and 2010's. BMTSoulja1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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