Silsbee 35 Lumberton 13/FINAL

[L-Train11]

10 hours ago, ST413 said:

Why would that be a problem.  We have had some good qbs that played hoops as well.

Yeah but it seems like more kids have the “one sport” mentality these days. 

[Bigdog]

Hmmm,  LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either....

LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE
 “Bears”

YEAR                     W-L-T       PTS-OPP        COACH

1970                       4-6-0         183-239         Jim Crossland
1971                       6-4-0         132-160         Jim Crossland
1972                       7-3-0         157-114         Jim Crossland
1973                       4-6-0         108-147         Jim Crossland
1974                       5-5-0         217-196         Randall Dorsett
1975                       3-7-0         156-260         Randall Dorsett
1976                       3-4-2         101-122         Lidney Thompson
1977                       4-5-1         107-210         Lidney Thompson
1978                       4-6-0         109-138         Lidney Thompson
1979                       6-4-0         166-149         Lidney Thompson
1980                       3-7-0           85-194         Lidney Thompson
1981                       7-3-0         266-150         Ron Dupree
1982                       4-6-0         176-176         Ron Dupree
1983                       7-3-0         268-  89         Ron Dupree
1984                       2-8-0         243-223         Ron Dupree
1985                       2-8-0         129-254         Pat Wozniak
1986                       4-6-0           91-204         Pat Wozniak
1987                       4-6-0         158-198         Pat Wozniak
1988                       1-8-0           90-233         Pat Wozniak
1989                       4-5-1         156-211         Lucky Gamble
1990                       5-5-0         223-247         Lucky Gamble
1991                       7-3-0         181-  88         Rhodney Russell
1992       R              5-5-1         184-178         Rhodney Russell
1993                       5-5-0         154-158         Rhodney Russell
1994       C--          11-1-0         311-  70         David Williams
1995       R              9-2-0         240-139         David Williams
1996                       5-5-0         192-182         David Williams
1997       R--          11-3-0         412-170         David Williams
1998                       4-6-0         177-193         David Williams
1999                       3-7-0         179-246         David Williams
2000                       2-8-0         123-283         David Williams
2001                       3-6-0         181-188         David Williams
2002                       2-8-0         104-252         David Williams
2003                       5-5-0         172-206         David Williams
2004                       3-7-0         148-252         David Williams
2005                       2-6-0         122-209         Todd Moody
2006                       5-5-0         214-150         Todd Moody
2007                       1-9-0         132-283         Todd Moody
2008                       0-8-0           73-337         Todd Moody
2009                       4-6-0         217-294         Randy Crouch
2010                       7-3-0         366-292         Randy Crouch
2011                       4-6-0         199-249         Randy Crouch
2012                       4-6-0         291-290         Randy Crouch
2013      F--             5-5-0         198-233         Randy Crouch
2014      T               5-6-0         217-202         Randy Crouch
2015                       2-8-0         301-304         Randy Crouch
2016      T               5-6-0         305-404         Randy Crouch
2017     TH              4-5-0         250-314         Randy Crouch


ALL-TIME RECORD:    212-265-5                8- 1- 0
Playoff Record: 4-7-1

 

[ST413]

1 hour ago, L-Train11 said:

Yeah but it seems like more kids have the “one sport” mentality these days. 

True but I can think of two qbs in the recent past that we’re good in the field and court.  Dontre Thomas and Willie Jones.

[L-Train11]

1 hour ago, bigdog said:

Hmmm,  LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either....

LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE
 “Bears”

YEAR                     W-L-T       PTS-OPP        COACH

1970                       4-6-0         183-239         Jim Crossland
1971                       6-4-0         132-160         Jim Crossland
1972                       7-3-0         157-114         Jim Crossland
1973                       4-6-0         108-147         Jim Crossland
1974                       5-5-0         217-196         Randall Dorsett
1975                       3-7-0         156-260         Randall Dorsett
1976                       3-4-2         101-122         Lidney Thompson
1977                       4-5-1         107-210         Lidney Thompson
1978                       4-6-0         109-138         Lidney Thompson
1979                       6-4-0         166-149         Lidney Thompson
1980                       3-7-0           85-194         Lidney Thompson
1981                       7-3-0         266-150         Ron Dupree
1982                       4-6-0         176-176         Ron Dupree
1983                       7-3-0         268-  89         Ron Dupree
1984                       2-8-0         243-223         Ron Dupree
1985                       2-8-0         129-254         Pat Wozniak
1986                       4-6-0           91-204         Pat Wozniak
1987                       4-6-0         158-198         Pat Wozniak
1988                       1-8-0           90-233         Pat Wozniak
1989                       4-5-1         156-211         Lucky Gamble
1990                       5-5-0         223-247         Lucky Gamble
1991                       7-3-0         181-  88         Rhodney Russell
1992       R              5-5-1         184-178         Rhodney Russell
1993                       5-5-0         154-158         Rhodney Russell
1994       C--          11-1-0         311-  70         David Williams
1995       R              9-2-0         240-139         David Williams
1996                       5-5-0         192-182         David Williams
1997       R--          11-3-0         412-170         David Williams
1998                       4-6-0         177-193         David Williams
1999                       3-7-0         179-246         David Williams
2000                       2-8-0         123-283         David Williams
2001                       3-6-0         181-188         David Williams
2002                       2-8-0         104-252         David Williams
2003                       5-5-0         172-206         David Williams
2004                       3-7-0         148-252         David Williams
2005                       2-6-0         122-209         Todd Moody
2006                       5-5-0         214-150         Todd Moody
2007                       1-9-0         132-283         Todd Moody
2008                       0-8-0           73-337         Todd Moody
2009                       4-6-0         217-294         Randy Crouch
2010                       7-3-0         366-292         Randy Crouch
2011                       4-6-0         199-249         Randy Crouch
2012                       4-6-0         291-290         Randy Crouch
2013      F--             5-5-0         198-233         Randy Crouch
2014      T               5-6-0         217-202         Randy Crouch
2015                       2-8-0         301-304         Randy Crouch
2016      T               5-6-0         305-404         Randy Crouch
2017     TH              4-5-0         250-314         Randy Crouch


ALL-TIME RECORD:    212-265-5                8- 1- 0
Playoff Record: 4-7-1

 

But they are better than Lumberton so that’s good enough right lol

[AggiesAreWe]

28 minutes ago, ST413 said:

True but I can think of two qbs in the recent past that we’re good in the field and court.  Dontre Thomas and Willie Jones.

Add Patrick Reed to that list.

[BMTSoulja1]

47 minutes ago, ST413 said:

True but I can think of two qbs in the recent past that we’re good in the field and court.  Dontre Thomas and Willie Jones.

Pat Reed?

[ST413]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Add Patrick Reed to that list.

Definitely just another year or 2 back. Had another big TD reception(79yds) for NM this past weekend by the ESPN stats as well!!!

[Tiger33]

5 hours ago, bigdog said:

Hmmm,  LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either....

LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE
 “Bears”

YEAR                     W-L-T       PTS-OPP        COACH

1970                       4-6-0         183-239         Jim Crossland
1971                       6-4-0         132-160         Jim Crossland
1972                       7-3-0         157-114         Jim Crossland
1973                       4-6-0         108-147         Jim Crossland
1974                       5-5-0         217-196         Randall Dorsett
1975                       3-7-0         156-260         Randall Dorsett
1976                       3-4-2         101-122         Lidney Thompson
1977                       4-5-1         107-210         Lidney Thompson
1978                       4-6-0         109-138         Lidney Thompson
1979                       6-4-0         166-149         Lidney Thompson
1980                       3-7-0           85-194         Lidney Thompson
1981                       7-3-0         266-150         Ron Dupree
1982                       4-6-0         176-176         Ron Dupree
1983                       7-3-0         268-  89         Ron Dupree
1984                       2-8-0         243-223         Ron Dupree
1985                       2-8-0         129-254         Pat Wozniak
1986                       4-6-0           91-204         Pat Wozniak
1987                       4-6-0         158-198         Pat Wozniak
1988                       1-8-0           90-233         Pat Wozniak
1989                       4-5-1         156-211         Lucky Gamble
1990                       5-5-0         223-247         Lucky Gamble
1991                       7-3-0         181-  88         Rhodney Russell
1992       R              5-5-1         184-178         Rhodney Russell
1993                       5-5-0         154-158         Rhodney Russell
1994       C--          11-1-0         311-  70         David Williams
1995       R              9-2-0         240-139         David Williams
1996                       5-5-0         192-182         David Williams
1997       R--          11-3-0         412-170         David Williams
1998                       4-6-0         177-193         David Williams
1999                       3-7-0         179-246         David Williams
2000                       2-8-0         123-283         David Williams
2001                       3-6-0         181-188         David Williams
2002                       2-8-0         104-252         David Williams
2003                       5-5-0         172-206         David Williams
2004                       3-7-0         148-252         David Williams
2005                       2-6-0         122-209         Todd Moody
2006                       5-5-0         214-150         Todd Moody
2007                       1-9-0         132-283         Todd Moody
2008                       0-8-0           73-337         Todd Moody
2009                       4-6-0         217-294         Randy Crouch
2010                       7-3-0         366-292         Randy Crouch
2011                       4-6-0         199-249         Randy Crouch
2012                       4-6-0         291-290         Randy Crouch
2013      F--             5-5-0         198-233         Randy Crouch
2014      T               5-6-0         217-202         Randy Crouch
2015                       2-8-0         301-304         Randy Crouch
2016      T               5-6-0         305-404         Randy Crouch
2017     TH              4-5-0         250-314         Randy Crouch


ALL-TIME RECORD:    212-265-5                8- 1- 0
Playoff Record: 4-7-1

 

No we are not just Better than Lumberton lol. But on a serious note Lumberton and Vidor does have the worst winning percentages in the state. if we keep going on with our coaching style we will end up like them.

[Tiger33]

5 hours ago, bigdog said:

Hmmm,  LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either....

LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE
 “Bears”

YEAR                     W-L-T       PTS-OPP        COACH

1970                       4-6-0         183-239         Jim Crossland
1971                       6-4-0         132-160         Jim Crossland
1972                       7-3-0         157-114         Jim Crossland
1973                       4-6-0         108-147         Jim Crossland
1974                       5-5-0         217-196         Randall Dorsett
1975                       3-7-0         156-260         Randall Dorsett
1976                       3-4-2         101-122         Lidney Thompson
1977                       4-5-1         107-210         Lidney Thompson
1978                       4-6-0         109-138         Lidney Thompson
1979                       6-4-0         166-149         Lidney Thompson
1980                       3-7-0           85-194         Lidney Thompson
1981                       7-3-0         266-150         Ron Dupree
1982                       4-6-0         176-176         Ron Dupree
1983                       7-3-0         268-  89         Ron Dupree
1984                       2-8-0         243-223         Ron Dupree
1985                       2-8-0         129-254         Pat Wozniak
1986                       4-6-0           91-204         Pat Wozniak
1987                       4-6-0         158-198         Pat Wozniak
1988                       1-8-0           90-233         Pat Wozniak
1989                       4-5-1         156-211         Lucky Gamble
1990                       5-5-0         223-247         Lucky Gamble
1991                       7-3-0         181-  88         Rhodney Russell
1992       R              5-5-1         184-178         Rhodney Russell
1993                       5-5-0         154-158         Rhodney Russell
1994       C--          11-1-0         311-  70         David Williams
1995       R              9-2-0         240-139         David Williams
1996                       5-5-0         192-182         David Williams
1997       R--          11-3-0         412-170         David Williams
1998                       4-6-0         177-193         David Williams
1999                       3-7-0         179-246         David Williams
2000                       2-8-0         123-283         David Williams
2001                       3-6-0         181-188         David Williams
2002                       2-8-0         104-252         David Williams
2003                       5-5-0         172-206         David Williams
2004                       3-7-0         148-252         David Williams
2005                       2-6-0         122-209         Todd Moody
2006                       5-5-0         214-150         Todd Moody
2007                       1-9-0         132-283         Todd Moody
2008                       0-8-0           73-337         Todd Moody
2009                       4-6-0         217-294         Randy Crouch
2010                       7-3-0         366-292         Randy Crouch
2011                       4-6-0         199-249         Randy Crouch
2012                       4-6-0         291-290         Randy Crouch
2013      F--             5-5-0         198-233         Randy Crouch
2014      T               5-6-0         217-202         Randy Crouch
2015                       2-8-0         301-304         Randy Crouch
2016      T               5-6-0         305-404         Randy Crouch
2017     TH              4-5-0         250-314         Randy Crouch


ALL-TIME RECORD:    212-265-5                8- 1- 0
Playoff Record: 4-7-1

 

LITTLE CYPRESS    “Bears” you forgot the first 13 year so actually its 294-319-8 all time so we can get the numbers correct

YEAR                     W-L-T       PTS-OPP        COACH

1956                       5-5-0           79-166         Robert Miller
1957                       2-7-1         115-260         Robert Miller
1958                       5-3-1         194-136         Robert Miller
1959                       3-7-0         128-229         Ted Miller
1960     TRI             7-2-0         160-  60         Ted Miller
1961       C--          10-1-0         280-105         Ted Miller
1962                       4-6-0         132-105         Ted Miller
1963                       9-1-0         161-  55         Ted Miller
1964                       5-4-0         154-128         Ted Miller
1965                       7-3-0         118-  61         Ted Miller
1966                       3-6-1           92-  96         Ted Miller
1967                       5-5-0         151-143         Jim Crossland
1968                       7-3-0         209-120         Jim Crossland
1969 C                  10-1-0         351-138         Jim Crossland
                CONSOLIDATED WITH MAURICEVILLE

ALL-TIME RECORD:    82-54-3         2- 3- 0

[Tigers2010]

Both teams are irrelevant. Neither are going anyway outside Round 2. This thread is Silsbee/Lumberton. With Lumberton as banged up as they are, who knows how they finish. LCM is trash at full health.

[RoschonsBigBro]

5 hours ago, L-Train11 said:

Yeah but it seems like more kids have the “one sport” mentality these days. 

There a few kids who played with Shug as children but never cared to play in high school and now they play either basketball, baseball, or soccer exclusively so that they can work on what they are best at I assume. Wish a few of them wouldve come along for the ride

[Tiger33]

4 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

Both teams are irrelevant. Neither are going anyway outside Round 2. This thread is Silsbee/Lumberton. With Lumberton as banged up as they are, who knows how they finish. LCM is trash at full health.

Coming from a guy that doesn't even support a HS on here don't mean much to me. 

[Tigers2010]

7 minutes ago, LC-M said:

Coming from a guy that doesn't even support a HS on here don't mean much for me. 

Cool.

[HOTROD309]

18 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I think the young man's name is Briscoe

Jayden Briscoe... throws a really good ball .. reminds me of Trey Jones

[Uncle Pig]

22 hours ago, bigdog said:

Hmmm,  LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either....

LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE
 “Bears”

YEAR                     W-L-T       PTS-OPP        COACH

1970                       4-6-0         183-239         Jim Crossland
1971                       6-4-0         132-160         Jim Crossland
1972                       7-3-0         157-114         Jim Crossland
1973                       4-6-0         108-147         Jim Crossland
1974                       5-5-0         217-196         Randall Dorsett
1975                       3-7-0         156-260         Randall Dorsett
1976                       3-4-2         101-122         Lidney Thompson
1977                       4-5-1         107-210         Lidney Thompson
1978                       4-6-0         109-138         Lidney Thompson
1979                       6-4-0         166-149         Lidney Thompson
1980                       3-7-0           85-194         Lidney Thompson
1981                       7-3-0         266-150         Ron Dupree
1982                       4-6-0         176-176         Ron Dupree
1983                       7-3-0         268-  89         Ron Dupree
1984                       2-8-0         243-223         Ron Dupree
1985                       2-8-0         129-254         Pat Wozniak
1986                       4-6-0           91-204         Pat Wozniak
1987                       4-6-0         158-198         Pat Wozniak
1988                       1-8-0           90-233         Pat Wozniak
1989                       4-5-1         156-211         Lucky Gamble
1990                       5-5-0         223-247         Lucky Gamble
1991                       7-3-0         181-  88         Rhodney Russell
1992       R              5-5-1         184-178         Rhodney Russell
1993                       5-5-0         154-158         Rhodney Russell
1994       C--          11-1-0         311-  70         David Williams
1995       R              9-2-0         240-139         David Williams
1996                       5-5-0         192-182         David Williams
1997       R--          11-3-0         412-170         David Williams
1998                       4-6-0         177-193         David Williams
1999                       3-7-0         179-246         David Williams
2000                       2-8-0         123-283         David Williams
2001                       3-6-0         181-188         David Williams
2002                       2-8-0         104-252         David Williams
2003                       5-5-0         172-206         David Williams
2004                       3-7-0         148-252         David Williams
2005                       2-6-0         122-209         Todd Moody
2006                       5-5-0         214-150         Todd Moody
2007                       1-9-0         132-283         Todd Moody
2008                       0-8-0           73-337         Todd Moody
2009                       4-6-0         217-294         Randy Crouch
2010                       7-3-0         366-292         Randy Crouch
2011                       4-6-0         199-249         Randy Crouch
2012                       4-6-0         291-290         Randy Crouch
2013      F--             5-5-0         198-233         Randy Crouch
2014      T               5-6-0         217-202         Randy Crouch
2015                       2-8-0         301-304         Randy Crouch
2016      T               5-6-0         305-404         Randy Crouch
2017     TH              4-5-0         250-314         Randy Crouch


ALL-TIME RECORD:    212-265-5                8- 1- 0
Playoff Record: 4-7-1

 

Bottom line is predominately white football teams in southeast Texas are going to be mediocre at best(on a year in year out basis). 

[BMTSoulja1]

55 minutes ago, Uncle Pig said:

Bottom line is predominately white football teams in southeast Texas are going to be mediocre at best(on a year in year out basis). 

But why?  There are many predominantly white teams around that compete at a high level year in and year out...  What are they doing that we aren't?  We're serious about our football as they are...

[Tigers2010]

51 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

But why?  There are many predominantly white teams around that compete at a high level year in and year out...  What are they doing that we aren't?  We're serious about our football as they are...

There is a difference in being serious about football, and being SERIOUS about football. We like to think this area lives and breathes the game and what not. The difference is the serious kids, white or black, in the DFW area and others actually live and breathe the game, the good teams anyway. Not just August to November. That may not be an opinion that is accepted but I bet the Highland Park kids do 100x more football than what we do here. 

[BMTSoulja1]

17 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

There is a difference in being serious about football, and being SERIOUS about football. We like to think this area lives and breathes the game and what not. The difference is the serious kids, white or black, in the DFW area and others actually live and breathe the game, the good teams anyway. Not just August to November. That may not be an opinion that is accepted but I bet the Highland Park kids do 100x more football than what we do here. 

Like what?  There at restrictions for what you can do in the off-season.  I know some of our teams push the envelope, but you should see the equal amount of success for our teams just like those other teams...

[Tigers2010]

10 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

Like what?  There at restrictions for what you can do in the off-season.  I know some of our teams push the envelope, but you should see the equal amount of success for our teams just like those other teams...

Private parent-paid coaches. Like the private hitting/pitching instructors for baseball lessons. I am meaning like kids taking more of an initiative outside of the school ball stuff. I could be wrong, but I can definitely see that type of stuff being different.  

[Bigdog]

48 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

Private parent-paid coaches. Like the private hitting/pitching instructors for baseball lessons. I am meaning like kids taking more of an initiative outside of the school ball stuff. I could be wrong, but I can definitely see that type of stuff being different.  

That comes down to money, not desire.   Comparing Highland Park and some of the Houston areas to this area is apples to oranges.

[Tigers2010]

7 minutes ago, bigdog said:

That comes down to money, not desire.   Comparing Highland Park and some of the Houston areas to this area is apples to oranges.

The question is why it is better in other areas. Regardless if it is about money, that is one of the answers.For the record there are thousands of kids in this area that pay for private baseball and basketball coaches and pay to be on select teams and travel ball teams. Money is an issue for some not for all, and I would venture to guess it is not the issue for the majority. That is an excuse.

[Bigdog]

16 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

The question is why it is better in other areas. Regardless if it is about money, that is one of the answers.For the record there are thousands of kids in this area that pay for private baseball and basketball coaches and pay to be on select teams and travel ball teams. Money is an issue for some not for all, and I would venture to guess it is not the issue for the majority. That is an excuse.

I disagree, actually with the whole premise as I have already had this discussion before not even a week ago.  I don't want to rehash that whole thread again, but  there are teams (white teams as you put it) in this area that have made deep runs  fairly recently in the playoffs and can always do it again if everything falls right.  There is always a modicum of luck involved in a deep run ,  the playoff draw, a fumble goes the right way, weather.   I have seen teams from here win playoff games that no one picked them to win many times.  That's what makes the playoffs interesting.

 

[Raiders94]

14 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

The question is why it is better in other areas. Regardless if it is about money, that is one of the answers.For the record there are thousands of kids in this area that pay for private baseball and basketball coaches and pay to be on select teams and travel ball teams. Money is an issue for some not for all, and I would venture to guess it is not the issue for the majority. That is an excuse.

I'm sure its hard for some parents to get their kids to some camps. I pay a good bit of money for position specific camps and it does help. But also their are situations where players positions changes ( linebacker to guard) and the parents feel like they have wasted their money.  

[Tigers2010]

8 minutes ago, bigdog said:

I disagree, actually with the whole premise as I have already had this discussion before not even a week ago.  I don't want to rehash that whole thread again, but  there are teams (white teams as you put it) in this area that have made deep runs  fairly recently in the playoffs and can always do it again if everything falls right.  There is always a modicum of luck involved in a deep run ,  the playoff draw, a fumble goes the right way, weather.   I have seen teams from here win playoff games that no one picked them to win many times.  That's what makes the playoffs interesting.

 

I didn't put it that way. There has been a handful of people in the last couple of weeks put it that way, I have not. I try to stay away from that. I'm confused on what you disagree with. We seems to be on the same page.  I am assuming that you disagree that other areas take a more active approach to winning rather than hoping to make a run every few years or hoping to get a fumble or pick six? I don't have the data but I would bet the farm that the teams that are consistently in the mix every year, do more than just breed the athletes. It has to be a lifestyle to win big time highschool football games. It's not a August to November life and win a title. It has to be your job year around, and I imaging that those teams that are in it every year dedicate their time and money to winning it. Idk, everybody has opinions. 

[Bigdog]

Not to mention it is all cyclical.   Mojo was a terror in the 70s  and 80s, but have faded away now.   WOS went 28 years in between state championship runs.  Katy has won championship in the  50's and then wasn't back until the 2000's and 2010's.