FYI from ol Soulja....

[The Icon]

43 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

Then to flatly answer your question, I would choose the winning program. Even if my kid was on that team.

Coaches are hired to win games.

Agreed 

[PdaddyBball]

Who’s the OC and dc at United?

[Bigdog]

I think coaching consistency is part of it, probably a big part of it.   Central was better about keeping a coach around for more than a couple of years but Ozen changed coaches every two years toward the end.

[Austin1985]

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

If it's a Legit Question, then your premise is a little flawed. If you got a coach that won football games (I mean won like Newton, WOS, etc. year in/year out) then the scouts are gonna come no matter what. Plus in this day and age, even Junior High kids can make their own highlight videos. Hudl, YouTube, MaxPreps and other sites give the ability for these kids to be noticed a lot more than even just 5 years ago.

Therefore, if you had a coach that could bring a team wins, then he would effectively be getting those same kids recruited.

So, with that thought in mind, your question could only be: Would you rather choose a coach that wins football games and gets kid recruited or would you rather choose a coach that loses football games and gets kid recruited?

I'll take the winner please...

That's Arthur Louis' resume.... 

[Uncle Pig]

6 hours ago, Austin1985 said:

Both.  In Beaumont, both can happen.  A city that produced a champion in '82 and a co-champion in 84 can have schools with deep playoff runs and significant amounts of scholarship offers

Title 1 schools are behind the 8 ball when it comes to winning big these days, especially at the 5A-6A level. Not saying it can’t be and isn’t done, but the larger school districts with kids that come from higher income families have pretty much taken over. All one needs to do is look at the past few years of state champs at the 5A-6A level 

[Alpha Wolf]

23 hours ago, Bootleg said:

There is no reason that United shouldn't own all the teams in the Golden Triangle. One day ! One day they will get it together and will own this area. Its just a matter of time.

Do you feel like that will happen under the current regime?

[Alpha Wolf]

22 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

Then to flatly answer your question, I would choose the winning program. Even if my kid was on that team.

Coaches are hired to win games.

At $120,000 salary, he made $60,00 per win...

[Alpha Wolf]

22 hours ago, 88Warrior said:

Win games..It benefits all the players, the school and community...imho..

Winning cures all.  You are what your record says you are...

[Alpha Wolf]

21 hours ago, PdaddyBball said:

Who’s the OC and dc at United?

Ed Taylor-OC

Kirby Jones-DC

[Alpha Wolf]

21 hours ago, bigdog said:

I think coaching consistency is part of it, probably a big part of it.   Central was better about keeping a coach around for more than a couple of years but Ozen changed coaches every two years toward the end.

Consistency is a big part of it but we don't want one that is consistently losing either...

[D3zii]

The thing with Beaumont is we are our own worse enemy. We stand in our own way,

once we get out of our way the district as a whole will be better. 

[Alpha Wolf]

20 hours ago, Uncle Pig said:

Title 1 schools are behind the 8 ball when it comes to winning big these days, especially at the 5A-6A level. Not saying it can’t be and isn’t done, but the larger school districts with kids that come from higher income families have pretty much taken over. All one needs to do is look at the past few years of state champs at the 5A-6A level 

2017-Dallas Highland Park, College Station, Allen and Cy-Fair

2016-Dallas Highand Park, Aledo, Austin Lake Travis and DeSoto

I understand your point even though I'm not sure about the financial break down of Desoto.  I'm not expecting a state championship at United but I'm not excepting 2 wins a year either. 

[Alpha Wolf]

6 minutes ago, D3zii said:

The thing with Beaumont is we are our own worse enemy. We stand in our own way,

once we get out of our way the district as a whole will be better. 

That starts at the top with the school board, superintendent and assistant superintendent .

[Bigdog]

11 hours ago, Alpha Wolf said:

Consistency is a big part of it but we don't want one that is consistently losing either...

No, but you have to give a coach time to implement thier program and get the kids on board.  It usually takes more than two years.

[Uncle Pig]

22 hours ago, Alpha Wolf said:

2017-Dallas Highland Park, College Station, Allen and Cy-Fair

2016-Dallas Highand Park, Aledo, Austin Lake Travis and DeSoto

I understand your point even though I'm not sure about the financial break down of Desoto.  I'm not expecting a state championship at United but I'm not excepting 2 wins a year either. 

Yessir I 100% see where you’re coming from. Desoto is very upper/middle class

[Alpha Wolf]

13 hours ago, bigdog said:

No, but you have to give a coach time to implement thier program and get the kids on board.  It usually takes more than two years.

It was the Ozen offensive system from the previous 2 years, just with more kids now but the same results.  Like I told the school board last night, those kids deserve better...

[PlayActionPass]

15 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said:

It was the Ozen offensive system from the previous 2 years, just with more kids now but the same results.  Like I told the school board last night, those kids deserve better...

Didn't get to see a United game this year, what are they running on Offense?

[Austin1985]

Multiple looks,.  Some I, some Shotgun spread

3-4 base defense......

[The Icon]

Weve seen it time and again

Would a new coach be able to bring in his own and staff and run his program? Consistency in the form of proven success is more helpful than perpetual mediocrity.

[PlayActionPass]

On 11/15/2018 at 9:40 AM, Alpha Wolf said:

That starts at the top with the school board, superintendent and assistant superintendent .

As it does EVERYWHERE, if you don't have support from the top then you are just spinning your wheels.

[Alpha Wolf]

8 hours ago, Austin1985 said:

Multiple looks,.  Some I, some Shotgun spread

3-4 base defense......

22 hours ago, bigdog said:

 

Bro, we ran the 3-4 for the 1st time against PA Memorial, then against Sterling and after West Brook gashed us we went back to the 4-3 for the rest of the season.

[Austin1985]

3 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said:

Bro, we ran the 3-4 for the 1st time against PA Memorial, then against Sterling and after West Brook gashed us we went back to the 4-3 for the rest of the season.

My bad.  Saw the sterling game only 

[Alpha Wolf]

7 hours ago, The Icon said:

Weve seen it time and again

Would a new coach be able to bring in his own and staff and run his program? Consistency in the form of proven success is more helpful than perpetual mediocrity.

I'm sitting in Cheddars about to eat so I don't have much time but I received a 20 minute and 44 second phone call from one of the "Admin Powers" yesterday on this entire topic wanting to know my and the community's concerns about United football.  And I didn't hold back, I was actually more controlled last night because I only had 2 and half minutes...

[Alpha Wolf]

13 minutes ago, Austin1985 said:

My bad.  Saw the sterling game only 

It was working but for some reason after one bad game against WB, they went away from it, smh...