Nederland @ Vidor

[jake94]

1 hour ago, outanup said:

Could be wrong but, Rez Ipsa seems like an Injun fan......

Since the Nederland offense is lucky and so bad and only plays bad teams, can we get some stats on the vaunted Indians defense that is obviously really unlucky and good and only plays elite district offenses?

[chorizo]

one thing is for sure,if needed these last three games you will see more weapons on offense,in the likes of hiltz,lewis,roccaforte,grusecki,broussard,good luck to any defenses trying to cover them all at once!!

[grayhair777]

Boom mic drop!!!

[Gorilla Bob]

13 minutes ago, chorizo said:

one thing is for sure,if needed these last three games you will see more weaons on offense,in the likes of hiltz,lewis,roccaforte,grusecki,broussard,good luck to any defenses trying to cover them all at once!!

All them all state DB's going to the offense. No one could ever cover them. Season is over just hand them the state championship. 

 

[TenaciousK]

Cool stories, guys. They all get a thumbs up. This is why we play the game. I think Vidor drops another hard fought contest, but I also think it's going to be closer than you think.

[chorizo]

by no means did I say a state championship,im not ignorant,dont have the horses,just saying that they could help on offense,lot harder to cover five good athletes at once versus just one or two!!

[Bulldogpower]

14 hours ago, Rez Ipsa said:

The Nederland offense isn't averaging 40 points a game. It is averaging 32 points per game, and the bulk of that is skewed by lopsided victories over two of the worst teams in the district (Dayton and Lee) and a 33-point performance against a bad Beaumont United team.

Nederland's offense, if you take out Dayton, Lee, and Beaumont United (that is, if you look at Nederland's offensive performance against the teams on the schedule that are doing well) averages 22 points a game. I'm including WOS, Silsbee, BH, and Santa Fe -- These are teams that are in the mix in their districts.

Tellingly, against potential playoff teams in our district, Nederland averages 24 points.  They are not exactly running people over offensively. They are solid, and they are clearly the favorite in the district, but there are vulnerabilities that Vidor can take advantage of. Vidor is down, but Vidor's offense has been getting on the board.

In games against Crosby, PNG, BH, and Santa Fe (all in the running for playoff spots) Vidor has averaged 28 points per game, which is more than Nederland's average against potential playoff teams. Even if we include Nederland's victories against far weaker teams and take the season average, Vidor's offense is putting up more points than Nederland's (34 vs 32). Further, I think we can all agree that Vidor's district run has so far been against tougher opponents than those faced by Nederland (PNG, Crosby, BH, and Santa Fe, as opposed to Lee, Dayton, BH, and Santa Fe). Against overall tougher competition, Vidor is scoring more. Against common opponents, Vidor is scoring more. 

Granted, Nederland won its games and Vidor lost them. My point is that Vidor is not a pushover and the Pirates will put points on the board. Nederland will have to bring it to keep that perfect record intact. 

That solid shut down PNG defense though, how points are they allowing a game? Asking for a friend. 

 

[Rez]

4 minutes ago, Bulldogpower said:

That solid shut down PNG defense though, how points are they allowing a game? Asking for a friend. 

 

Don't need any analysis for that. The answer = a lot. It's also irrelevant to the Nederland-Vidor game. 

[Rez]

2 hours ago, jake94 said:

Since the Nederland offense is lucky and so bad and only plays bad teams, can we get some stats on the vaunted Indians defense that is obviously really unlucky and good and only plays elite district offenses?

I think my original post has been misunderstood. I never said or implied that Nederland has been lucky. I just looked at what they have done against the opponents they have faced, and compared it to what Vidor has done. Nederland is a good team. No one has argued otherwise. 

[aki1994]

Just in case anyone is curious. I really, really do not like Nederland. Except after MCM then I really, really want to see them do well in the playoffs, represent the area. 

[chorizo]

Nobody is curious!!

[Raider24]

19 hours ago, chorizo said:

yea yea yea vp93,,get out $10 more for Mr. Ward!!!lol

Since it looks like Vidor will finish 3-7, which was pretty close to my original prediction of 2-8, I wish I would've went at least $20/game instead of the $10/game. 

[chorizo]

poor vp93 gonna need you to give him some overtime to pay you off lol

[Rez]

16 minutes ago, aki1994 said:

Just in case anyone is curious. I really, really do not like Nederland. Except after MCM then I really, really want to see them do well in the playoffs, represent the area. 

I'm similar -- If I'm in town during the playoffs and Nederland is still alive in the playoffs, I try to be at the games cheering for them. 

[LEEROY Jenkinss]

The only time i pull against Vidor is when they are playing my Indians.  Although I would love to see Vidor win this game, it will make the Mid county madness that much sweeter to take the district championship at home in front of our fans.  Vidor good luck, Dogs we will see you at the reservation, oh and clean the trophy up for us because it is coming home.  Cherokee playing all night long.

[aki1994]

32 minutes ago, chorizo said:

Nobody is curious!!

You are not anyone so you don't need to be replying to my message. It was intended for people that matter. Specifically non Nederland fans. So get off my lawn. 

[chorizo]

Sorry Mr. PNG fan,forgot who we were dealing with!!

[navydawg31]

24 minutes ago, LEEROY Jenkinss said:

The only time i pull against Vidor is when they are playing my Indians.  Although I would love to see Vidor win this game, it will make the Mid county madness that much sweeter to take the district championship at home in front of our fans.  Vidor good luck, Dogs we will see you at the reservation, oh and clean the trophy up for us because it is coming home.  Cherokee playing all night long.

Coming home? Lol it’s only visited PNG 1 time.... it’s already at home right now. 

[KF89]

16 hours ago, grayhair777 said:

Well said lol ... The starters on defense for Nederland bulldog have only gave up 17 points a game and the starting offense have been scoring average of 40 points a game, so somehow Vidor is going to be able to shut down our Offense and then score on our defense not going to happen remember their 0-4 in district 

Nederland 1st team D has given up 12.57 points per game. Vidor offense will come out & put that to the test Friday   

[Bigdog]

12 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

Coming home? Lol it’s only visited PNG 1 time.... it’s already at home right now. 

I was just about to say that.

[Bigdog]

12 hours ago, jake94 said:

Blaysin did not play the whole game vs Dayton. We were up 35-0 at the half and the starters were out with 5 minutes left in the 3rd...

I meant as far as injury goes,  sorry didn’t clarify.   He probably didn’t play the whole game vs Lee either.

[Bigdog]

1 hour ago, Rez Ipsa said:

I think my original post has been misunderstood. I never said or implied that Nederland has been lucky. I just looked at what they have done against the opponents they have faced, and compared it to what Vidor has done. Nederland is a good team. No one has argued otherwise. 

Well Nederland has beat two of the teams that Vidor has lost to so far.  Good enough for me.

[Bulldogpower]

55 minutes ago, LEEROY Jenkinss said:

The only time i pull against Vidor is when they are playing my Indians.  Although I would love to see Vidor win this game, it will make the Mid county madness that much sweeter to take the district championship at home in front of our fans.  Vidor good luck, Dogs we will see you at the reservation, oh and clean the trophy up for us because it is coming home.  Cherokee playing all night long.

It’s a good thing for PNG fans the trophy didn’t start until 2014.

[KF89]

3 hours ago, Gorilla Bob said:

All them all state DB's going to the offense. No one could ever cover them. Season is over just hand them the state championship. 

 

 are bh eagles fan?

[outanup]

You can tell the Injuns are nervous when they start spewing stats on a Ned vs Vidor thread..... Speaking of the trophy... And using invincible to describe us...