Jack Da Rabbit Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 Currently their passing numbers are Roschon Johnson 429-660 6537 73 Tds Adam Morse-467-730 6298 70 Tds Dustin Long-392-798 6173 56 Tds Johnson passed Morse up with about 70 less attempts passing. Johnson passed Long with about 140 less attempts. He has nearly the completions of Morse with 110 less attempts. Dustin Long was a 50/50 completion percentage guy clearly from his attempts and completions. Its almost exactly 50/50. Morse and Johnson have much better percentages completing passes. Also Long had a season where he attempted 399 passes, Morse most passes were 328, compared to Johnsons 279. Throw all that 1999 different era crap out. Long HAS THE MOST PASSES IN SCHOOL HISTORY and that is WITHOUT BF system. THEY THREW THE BALL IN 99 CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF! Now Long Clearly had the better overall teams than both Johnson and Morse. An argument can be made about the supporting casts of Morse vs Johnson. If you add rushing statistics this becomes unfair, Johnson is closing in on the all time rushing record there. Very likely won't get it, but will be a close second. I just think with his team composition and how much he is asked to do, Im picking Johnson over these two. He is THE MORE EFFECTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE PASSER ALL THE WHILE CARRYING THE LOAD AS THE TEAM LEADING RUSHER. It's easy but Ill let you debate. I really don't think anyone wants to see Johnson on a 99 Indians team with a defense! Here is the stats link This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
The Icon Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 Johnson > Long > Morse Jack Da Rabbit 1 Quote
1989NDN Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 RJ passes the eyeball test as the best QB at PN-G. His stats prove what the eyes see. DL had a 16-game season. RJ and AM did not. If you throw in championship hardware, then Richy Ethridge enters the conversation and he might be the second best QB behind RJ regardless of stats. RE could run or throw, and what he did best was win. RE was a coach on the field. He could get PN-G out of bad plays and into good plays at the line of scrimmage. Players believed in him and those kids won a lot of games and hardware against the biggest classifications at the time. Overall, I'd take RJ. Put him on those teams in 1975-1976 and PN-G never loses to anyone. Go Indians. Peace. Jack Da Rabbit 1 Quote
Jack Da Rabbit Posted October 23, 2018 Author Report Posted October 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, 1989NDN said: RJ passes the eyeball test as the best QB at PN-G. His stats prove what the eyes see. DL had a 16-game season. RJ and AM did not. If you throw in championship hardware, then Richy Ethridge enters the conversation and he might be the second best QB behind RJ regardless of stats. RE could run or throw, and what he did best was win. RE was a coach on the field. He could get PN-G out of bad plays and into good plays at the line of scrimmage. Players believed in him and those kids won a lot of games and hardware against the biggest classifications at the time. Overall, I'd take RJ. Put him on those teams in 1975-1976 and PN-G never loses to anyone. Go Indians. Peace. I agree. Had Johnson had a truly effective RB I believe the stats would balloon even more in his favor since he wouldn't be tired from all the rushing attempts. 18 minutes ago, The Icon said: Johnson > Long > Morse I agree. Had Johnson had a truly effective RB I believe the stats would balloon even more in his favor since he wouldn't be tired from all the rushing attempts. Quote
Reagan Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 If one is looking for overall success, only one has taken them to the State Championship game. Them being unfortunate to run into the Briles clan. RoschonsBigBro 1 Quote
Jack Da Rabbit Posted October 23, 2018 Author Report Posted October 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, Reagan said: If one is looking for overall success, only one has taken them to the State Championship game. Them being unfortunate to run into the Briles clan. Only one had the team to do so. To me thats like saying Emmitt Smith is better than Barry Sanders. Do I think Dustin Long could take ANY of Roschon's teams to state? Absolutely not. Roschon has to close out his games and play safety on the opposite side of the ball after running 25 times and throwing 30 times. Do I think Roschon could take the 99 class to State and Win, absolutely. Quote
Reagan Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jack Da Rabbit said: Only one had the team to do so. To me thats like saying Emmitt Smith is better than Barry Sanders. Do I think Dustin Long could take ANY of Roschon's teams to state? Absolutely not. Roschon has to close out his games and play safety on the opposite side of the ball after running 25 times and throwing 30 times. Do I think Roschon could take the 99 class to State and Win, absolutely. Since one is actual and the other speculative, we could talk all day long about this with no conclusion. But, you are right, football is a team effort. Maybe coaching has something to do with it also. Again, fact vs speculation. Jack Da Rabbit 1 Quote
Old school eagle Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 Dustin is the only one I saw play. Had a step daughter in his class and saw everyone of his games from 7th grade on. He would have had more completions his senior season if the wr's hadn't quit on him so many times. They would stop running and he would overthrow them 10 yds. It happened every single game his senior year. Made me so made I didn't know what to do. Quote
NDNation Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 If we are just talking about the QB (not team), then of the 3 listed, I would take RJ all day. RoschonsBigBro 1 Quote
HurricaneCal Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Reagan said: If one is looking for overall success, only one has taken them to the State Championship game. Them being unfortunate to run into the Briles clan. So would Trent Dilfer be considered a better QB than Marino, if you look at overall success then he’s got a ring! Old school eagle 1 Quote
Jack Da Rabbit Posted October 23, 2018 Author Report Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Indians93 said: What are the rushing numbers? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Lebouf-5110 67Tds Bergeron-3928 Johnson-3857 69 Tds Johnson will finish 2nd all time in rushing unless PNG finds a defense to sustain the season. Johnson has the rush TD record already CS. 1 Quote
Old school eagle Posted October 24, 2018 Report Posted October 24, 2018 The 99 team had great OL, Defense, Special teams, and kicker. Haven't got to see Shug play but the video I've seen I'd have to say he might be the best to ever come out of this area. Someone please remind me of someone better. I'm old and my memory might be bad Quote
Old school eagle Posted October 24, 2018 Report Posted October 24, 2018 Is Morse playing anywhere ? Young man has loads of talent. Quote
BelichikYoSelf Posted October 24, 2018 Report Posted October 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Old school eagle said: Is Morse playing anywhere ? Young man has loads of talent. Backup or 3rd at LU. Maybe should have transferred when new staff came to town. RoschonsBigBro and Old school eagle 2 Quote
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