Kingwood Park 63 Goose Creek Memorial 6/FINAL

[WOSgrad]

7:00 pm from Stallworth Stadium in Baytown

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9:30 2nd qtr

KP 21

GCM 0

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28-0

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35-0

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42-0

KPark getting to work on their hurry up offense and passing game. Classy.

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Final

63-6

[N8_44]

2 hours ago, Bandwagon Ranger said:

42-0

KPark getting to work on their hurry up offense and passing game. Classy.

There comes a time and point where, if you’re giving up 50+ points a game and getting beat every week, and ur avg margin of defeat for the last 3 years, is 36.8pts, it’s not the other team not being classy, it’s the product that’s put on the field that needs to be questioned. If you don’t like them scoring... do something about it and stop them. Those same kids playing basketball and baseball don’t get beat like that, and they fight their tails off to the end, but attitude reflects leadership, and it’s time to cut the head off the snake and go in an entirely new direction. 

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28 minutes ago, N8_44 said:

There comes a time and point where, if you’re giving up 50+ points a game and getting beat every week, and ur avg margin of defeat for the last 3 years, is 36.8pts, it’s not the other team not being classy, it’s the product that’s put on the field that needs to be questioned. If you don’t like them scoring... do something about it and stop them. Those same kids playing basketball and baseball don’t get beat like that, and they fight their tails off to the end, but attitude reflects leadership, and it’s time to cut the head off the snake and go in an entirely new direction. 

Disagree completely. A team can impose their will to start a game. At some point, they should know that it is in their best interest to run the damn ball, play the back ups, and just get out of there. 

It's all about winning with class. Coach Kay at North Shore does it right.  He could have put 100 on the board the past 2 seasons against GCM,  but did not. Beating GCM by 100 is NOT his ultimate goal. He has bigger asperations. 

If you can line up and run the ball and score 63...more Power to ya. To run a hurry up offense and continue to throw the ball up 49 points is classless. Always will be. 

Already done with this season. Ready for next year. 

 

 

[N8_44]

On 11/10/2018 at 10:55 PM, Bandwagon Ranger said:

Disagree completely. A team can impose their will to start a game. At some point, they should know that it is in their best interest to run the damn ball, play the back ups, and just get out of there. 

It's all about winning with class. Coach Kay at North Shore does it right.  He could have put 100 on the board the past 2 seasons against GCM,  but did not. Beating GCM by 100 is NOT his ultimate goal. He has bigger asperations. 

If you can line up and run the ball and score 63...more Power to ya. To run a hurry up offense and continue to throw the ball up 49 points is classless. Always will be. 

Already done with this season. Ready for next year. 

 

 

And that’s fine everybody has their own opinion we can agree to disagree. But to me it’s pretty cut and dry, when they moved on from Boyd, which was necessary and time for, they hired someone from his staff and kept all of the same coaches. The reason for letting him go/him resigning, was because the performance and record had fallen off it was time for a change. But change does not come unless everything is changed including the coaching staff. If you have a program where they’re losing and have that instilled in them Bc that’s all they’ve known, Then what makes anything change if the recipe stays the same.  When you change head coaches the entire regime needs to go In order for total change to happen and a new philosophy combined with a new culture is required. By not doing this you set the program back by 4 years. Take Lee for example, they cleaned house brought in Finn and he’s turning that program around. They have fewer numbers than GCM and although they can’t stop a lot of people from scoring, they routinely score 40+ a game and remain competitive if not entertaining throughout. GCM has struggled to put quality units on the field for 4yrs under current regime. It’s not the coaches fault Bc they were set up for failure, the program needs a shot in the arm, to bring out more kids to the program and an overall make over to attract more talent. The kids put in a lot of work and should be commended, but another area of concern is the coaching at the junior high level. 99% of our kids at a certain jr high, can’t tell you what a 3 technique or lining up in a 7 or 9 means. And then you play the likes of Cunningham, North Shore MS , and they are on the sidelines, yelling for their kids to change into different techniques to adjust for the offensive alignment and they do it immediately.  Our kids are at a disadvantage from the time they walk in to the high school doors districtwide. The high school coaches have to teach all these things when I get there because they weren’t taught in junior high immediately putting them behind the eight ball. You have to start from the bottom and go to the top with culture change and that’s what it’s going to take the kids to be successful. End of discussion

[StangBacker]

24 minutes ago, N8_44 said:

And that’s fine everybody has their own opinion we can agree to disagree. But to me it’s pretty cut and dry, when they moved on from Boyd, which was necessary and time for, they hired someone from his staff and kept all of the same coaches. The reason for letting him go/him resigning, was because the performance and record had fallen off it was time for a change. But change does not come unless everything is changed including the coaching staff. If you have a program where they’re losing and have that instilled in them Bc that’s all they’ve known, Then what makes anything change if the recipe stays the same.  When you change head coaches the entire regime needs to go In order for total change to happen and a new philosophy combined with a new culture is required. By not doing this you set the program back by 4 years. Take Lee for example, they cleaned house brought in Finn and he’s turning that program around. They have fewer numbers than GCM and although they can’t stop a lot of people from scoring, they routinely score 40+ a game and remain competitive if not entertaining throughout. GCM has struggled to put quality units on the field for 4yrs under current regime. It’s not the coaches fault Bc they were set up for failure, the program needs a shot in the arm, to bring out more kids to the program and an overall make over to attract more talent. The kids put in a lot of work and should be commended, but another area of concern is the coaching at the junior high level. 99% of our kids at a certain jr high, can’t tell you what a 3 technique or lining up in a 7 or 9 means. And then you play the likes of Cunningham, North Shore MS , and they are on the sidelines, yelling for their kids to change into different techniques to adjust for the offensive alignment and they do it immediately.  Our kids are at a disadvantage from the time they walk in to the high school doors districtwide. The high school coaches have to teach all these things when I get there because they weren’t taught in junior high immediately putting them behind the eight ball. You have to start from the bottom and go to the top with culture change and that’s what it’s going to take the kids to be successful. End of discussion

You seem to have a pretty good grip on what's going on within this entire district and seem to have all of the answers.  Sounds like you need to go to the athletic director with all of your concerns and remedies and convince him to hire you to fix the Baytown issue.  You've got my vote!

[Alpha Wolf]

2 hours ago, N8_44 said:

And that’s fine everybody has their own opinion we can agree to disagree. But to me it’s pretty cut and dry, when they moved on from Boyd, which was necessary and time for, they hired someone from his staff and kept all of the same coaches. The reason for letting him go/him resigning, was because the performance and record had fallen off it was time for a change. But change does not come unless everything is changed including the coaching staff. If you have a program where they’re losing and have that instilled in them Bc that’s all they’ve known, Then what makes anything change if the recipe stays the same.  When you change head coaches the entire regime needs to go In order for total change to happen and a new philosophy combined with a new culture is required. By not doing this you set the program back by 4 years. Take Lee for example, they cleaned house brought in Finn and he’s turning that program around. They have fewer numbers than GCM and although they can’t stop a lot of people from scoring, they routinely score 40+ a game and remain competitive if not entertaining throughout. GCM has struggled to put quality units on the field for 4yrs under current regime. It’s not the coaches fault Bc they were set up for failure, the program needs a shot in the arm, to bring out more kids to the program and an overall make over to attract more talent. The kids put in a lot of work and should be commended, but another area of concern is the coaching at the junior high level. 99% of our kids at a certain jr high, can’t tell you what a 3 technique or lining up in a 7 or 9 means. And then you play the likes of Cunningham, North Shore MS , and they are on the sidelines, yelling for their kids to change into different techniques to adjust for the offensive alignment and they do it immediately.  Our kids are at a disadvantage from the time they walk in to the high school doors districtwide. The high school coaches have to teach all these things when I get there because they weren’t taught in junior high immediately putting them behind the eight ball. You have to start from the bottom and go to the top with culture change and that’s what it’s going to take the kids to be successful. End of discussion

Sounds similar to what they did at Beaumont United.  Brought in a former coach but used staff that had only won 3 games in 2 years from a particular school to hold the authoritive positions on the sideline while the guys that had at least won 10 in that time frame were put in the back... 

[The Icon]

I understand that it might not logistically make since, but a consolidation of those schools seems what’s best from an athletic perspective. That being said, I can imagine the issues what would cause in terms of housing students and creating a functional learning environment.

[Austin1985]

But the whole ISD is putrid.......

[BlackShirts5]

15 hours ago, Austin1985 said:

But the whole ISD is putrid.......

The whole ISD has athletes, plenty..  Just don't know how to get them all together..

[90yshallow]

You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip or win the Kentucky Derby with a mule.  Bren is a good coach and a first time head coach at a school that was formed by splitting a school that is a perennial loser (Sterling).

[Peppermint Patty]

2 hours ago, 90yshallow said:

You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip or win the Kentucky Derby with a mule.  Bren is a good coach and a first time head coach at a school that was formed by splitting a school that is a perennial loser (Sterling).

5 starters moved just before school started- QB, RB, OL.

GCM was behind the 8 Ball to start the season. Add on multiple injuries and it is what it is. 

Bren Jones is a good coach and a better man. Not going to panic after a few seasons. 

[Tiger33]

6 minutes ago, Bandwagon Ranger said:

5 starters moved just before school started- QB, RB, OL.

GCM was behind the 8 Ball to start the season. Add on multiple injuries and it is what it is. 

Bren Jones is a good coach and a better man. Not going to panic after a few seasons. 

If you got anymore good athletes to share we could take one or two lol

[BlackShirts5]

6 minutes ago, Bandwagon Ranger said:

5 starters moved just before school started- QB, RB, OL.

GCM was behind the 8 Ball to start the season. Add on multiple injuries and it is what it is. 

Bren Jones is a good coach and a better man. Not going to panic after a few seasons. 

Qb, Rb, Lb, Not sure who the OL would have been. Injuries yea but they weren't to anyone that was contributing. 

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40 minutes ago, GCMNation5 said:

Qb, Rb, Lb, Not sure who the OL would have been. Injuries yea but they weren't to anyone that was contributing. 

OL did not move. Just chose not to play football.

QB/ATH was hurt prior to New Caney game.

Every little bit helps.

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43 minutes ago, LC-M said:

If you got anymore good athletes to share we could take one or two lol

Nah. We lockin'em down now.

[BlackShirts5]

15 minutes ago, Bandwagon Ranger said:

OL did not move. Just chose not to play football.

QB/ATH was hurt prior to New Caney game.

Every little bit helps.

OK i think i know the OL you are talking about.  QB/ATH you are right.. Forgot about him..  

[N8_44]

2009 7-4 lost to Central @ the Babe 7-0 (last playoff appearance)

2012 6-4 (last winning season)

throw in 0-10, 1-8, 4-6, 4-6, 4-6, 5-5, 4-6, and it’s a little more than a few seasons over the last decade, 2 winning seasons, in a decade screams for a different way of doing things. 

[Alpha Wolf]

9 hours ago, N8_44 said:

2009 7-4 lost to Central @ the Babe 7-0 (last playoff appearance)

2012 6-4 (last winning season)

throw in 0-10, 1-8, 4-6, 4-6, 4-6, 5-5, 4-6, and it’s a little more than a few seasons over the last decade, 2 winning seasons, in a decade screams for a different way of doing things. 

And that was a Central team that went 3 rounds deep...