Mark Richt has retired. Manny Diaz new head coach

[TxHoops]

6 minutes ago, Hook'em said:

Do y'all think Norvell from Memphis may be looked at? He is a guy I expect to get a big time job in the near future.

No doubt he’s going to be up for some bigger jobs.  

I’m hearing Holgerson to UH was agreed to in principle before Opie got canned.   I thought Tech was a stretch when he wanted that job and Cougar High is unimaginable.   He must really hate those hillbillies.  Thus, im guessing he’s not gunning for an SEC job.   

[1989NDN]

I'm not sure if Dana Holgerson is coming to UH or not, but the rumor mill at Houston says DH has a house in Houston, he enjoyed his time at UH during 2008-2009, he has been to UH since the Cougars upgraded facilities (TDECU Stadium and the new indoor practice facility) and DH told the UH admins that he could see himself at a new gig with new facilities, he can recruit Texas and Louisiana for the speed he likes at skilled positions, and most important, he and Tilman Fertitta have had some discussions in the past week.  If Fertitta wants it to happen and DH is serious about returning to Texas, then Fertitta will pay the price (insert joke here, i.e., pay the price with Landry's gift cards or poker chips from the casinos, etc.).  Supposedly, DH is leaving WV one way or the other.  The AD at WV wants "his guy" and DH does not like the cold weather (he's a guy that does not like to wear shoes that often; he's a shorts and flip flop guy with lots of cold beer in hand)...plus, WV has refused to give him a pay raise and an extension.  In the end, it's about $$$$.  We'll see how it shakes down.  If not DH, then I hope UH goes after the coach at Troy, Neal Brown.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

[TexazBall]

7 minutes ago, 1989NDN said:

I'm not sure if Dana Holgerson is coming to UH or not, but the rumor mill at Houston says DH has a house in Houston, he enjoyed his time at UH during 2008-2009, he has been to UH since the Cougars upgraded facilities (TDECU Stadium and the new indoor practice facility) and DH told the UH admins that he could see himself at a new gig with new facilities, he can recruit Texas and Louisiana for the speed he likes at skilled positions, and most important, he and Tilman Fertitta have had some discussions in the past week.  If Fertitta wants it to happen and DH is serious about returning to Texas, then Fertitta will pay the price (insert joke here, i.e., pay the price with Landry's gift cards or poker chips from the casinos, etc.).  Supposedly, DH is leaving WV one way or the other.  The AD at WV wants "his guy" and DH does not like the cold weather (he's a guy that does not like to wear shoes that often; he's a shorts and flip flop guy with lots of cold beer in hand)...plus, WV has refused to give him a pay raise and an extension.  In the end, it's about $$$$.  We'll see how it shakes down.  If not DH, then I hope UH goes after the coach at Troy, Neal Brown.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

If this happen this may be the one of many dominos to fall in ref to UOFh AND Big 12 expansion

[TxHoops]

8 minutes ago, 1989NDN said:

I'm not sure if Dana Holgerson is coming to UH or not, but the rumor mill at Houston says DH has a house in Houston, he enjoyed his time at UH during 2008-2009, he has been to UH since the Cougars upgraded facilities (TDECU Stadium and the new indoor practice facility) and DH told the UH admins that he could see himself at a new gig with new facilities, he can recruit Texas and Louisiana for the speed he likes at skilled positions, and most important, he and Tilman Fertitta have had some discussions in the past week.  If Fertitta wants it to happen and DH is serious about returning to Texas, then Fertitta will pay the price (insert joke here, i.e., pay the price with Landry's gift cards or poker chips from the casinos, etc.).  Supposedly, DH is leaving WV one way or the other.  The AD at WV wants "his guy" and DH does not like the cold weather (he's a guy that does not like to wear shoes that often; he's a shorts and flip flop guy with lots of cold beer in hand)...plus, WV has refused to give him a pay raise and an extension.  In the end, it's about $$$$.  We'll see how it shakes down.  If not DH, then I hope UH goes after the coach at Troy, Neal Brown.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

Fertita can afford to pay way more than any coach could demand.  U of H won’t have to “pass the hat” like some schools to pay a coach.  Or they only need one hat rather.  

[1989NDN]

In re: Big XII expansion, it depends upon what Texas wants to do.  Regardless of OU fans arguing that the Sooners control the Big XII with championships and playing on the national stage, it is Texas that controls what happens in the Big XII.  Texas is the Jones family and everyone else is trying to keep up.  Texas can control its own destiny at any stage of NCAA conference realignments.  Texas could go independent (if it so chooses; they have the money and fan base to do it with no problems), the Horns could stay in the Big XII, they could ease over to the Big X, prop-up the Pac-12, or they could join the SEC, if they wanted to do so.  There is not a conference in college sports that would decline Texas.  OU is handcuffed by the state legislature in Oklahoma.  Wherever the Sooners go, too many politicians in Oklahoma want the OK State Cowboys to follow.  The OK State anchor puts a lock on what OU can and cannot do when it comes time for conference alignment.  If the Big XII expands, contracts, or stays with the status quo, it will be Texas that decides the answer.  The Horns have the peso, thus, they have the say so.  TCU, Baylor, KSU, Kansas, OSU, TT, ISU, WV, and even OU to a lesser extent, should follow the model of Tiger Woods' golf caddie, "Show up, keep up, and shut up."  Everything else will take care of itself.  For UH, we need to keep our Tier I education status, keep our football, men's basketball, and baseball programs on solid ground, keep improving attendance, keep improving facilities (sports and other), and keep building the brand under Dr. Renu Khator and Tilman Ferttita.  Do all of that, and expansion will take a good look at you.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

[Hook'em]

5 minutes ago, 1989NDN said:

In re: Big XII expansion, it depends upon what Texas wants to do.  Regardless of OU fans arguing that the Sooners control the Big XII with championships and playing on the national stage, it is Texas that controls what happens in the Big XII.  Texas is the Jones family and everyone else is trying to keep up.  Texas can control its own destiny at any stage of NCAA conference realignments.  Texas could go independent (if it so chooses; they have the money and fan base to do it with no problems), the Horns could stay in the Big XII, they could ease over to the Big X, prop-up the Pac-12, or they could join the SEC, if they wanted to do so.  There is not a conference in college sports that would decline Texas.  OU is handcuffed by the state legislature in Oklahoma.  Wherever the Sooners go, too many politicians in Oklahoma want the OK State Cowboys to follow.  The OK State anchor puts a lock on what OU can and cannot do when it comes time for conference alignment.  If the Big XII expands, contracts, or stays with the status quo, it will be Texas that decides the answer.  The Horns have the peso, thus, they have the say so.  TCU, Baylor, KSU, Kansas, OSU, TT, ISU, WV, and even OU to a lesser extent, should follow the model of Tiger Woods' golf caddie, "Show up, keep up, and shut up."  Everything else will take care of itself.  For UH, we need to keep our Tier I education status, keep our football, men's basketball, and baseball programs on solid ground, keep improving attendance, keep improving facilities (sports and other), and keep building the brand under Dr. Renu Khator and Tilman Ferttita.  Do all of that, and expansion will take a good look at you.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

I do believe y'all are in good hands with Khator and Fertitta. There's no doubt in my mind that Fertitta is going to be invested in that program and sustaining/improving on what has been built there. UH is competitive in the 3 major sports and deserves a nod at a P5 conference imo. It never hurts having a guy that is willing to invest whatever it takes to help his alma mater especially with said guy having pockets that are deeper than the Pacific Ocean. Although him and DH are friends, he is also a business first guy and will demand results out of whoever is leading that program. The entire city of Houston is lucky to have guys like him and Mattress Mack as residents and contributors to the community.

[TexazBall]

23 minutes ago, 1989NDN said:

In re: Big XII expansion, it depends upon what Texas wants to do.  Regardless of OU fans arguing that the Sooners control the Big XII with championships and playing on the national stage, it is Texas that controls what happens in the Big XII.  Texas is the Jones family and everyone else is trying to keep up.  Texas can control its own destiny at any stage of NCAA conference realignments.  Texas could go independent (if it so chooses; they have the money and fan base to do it with no problems), the Horns could stay in the Big XII, they could ease over to the Big X, prop-up the Pac-12, or they could join the SEC, if they wanted to do so.  There is not a conference in college sports that would decline Texas.  OU is handcuffed by the state legislature in Oklahoma.  Wherever the Sooners go, too many politicians in Oklahoma want the OK State Cowboys to follow.  The OK State anchor puts a lock on what OU can and cannot do when it comes time for conference alignment.  If the Big XII expands, contracts, or stays with the status quo, it will be Texas that decides the answer.  The Horns have the peso, thus, they have the say so.  TCU, Baylor, KSU, Kansas, OSU, TT, ISU, WV, and even OU to a lesser extent, should follow the model of Tiger Woods' golf caddie, "Show up, keep up, and shut up."  Everything else will take care of itself.  For UH, we need to keep our Tier I education status, keep our football, men's basketball, and baseball programs on solid ground, keep improving attendance, keep improving facilities (sports and other), and keep building the brand under Dr. Renu Khator and Tilman Ferttita.  Do all of that, and expansion will take a good look at you.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

Good analysis, one thing is for sure, the big 12 has to do something or its not going to last long..

(But from what I'm hearing Texas doesn't  want anymore Texas teams in the conference due to recruiting issues) I feel Texas is just overthinking it. Yes UofH will bemore appealing but your still Texas, I guess it'll kinda be like TCU, they'll get some guys but you'll still most likely have your pick of the litter 

[Hook'em]

Just read Manny Diaz to the U after accepting the Temple head coaching job recently. 

[PhatMack19]

1 hour ago, 1989NDN said:

In re: Big XII expansion, it depends upon what Texas wants to do.  Regardless of OU fans arguing that the Sooners control the Big XII with championships and playing on the national stage, it is Texas that controls what happens in the Big XII.  Texas is the Jones family and everyone else is trying to keep up.  Texas can control its own destiny at any stage of NCAA conference realignments.  Texas could go independent (if it so chooses; they have the money and fan base to do it with no problems), the Horns could stay in the Big XII, they could ease over to the Big X, prop-up the Pac-12, or they could join the SEC, if they wanted to do so.  There is not a conference in college sports that would decline Texas.  OU is handcuffed by the state legislature in Oklahoma.  Wherever the Sooners go, too many politicians in Oklahoma want the OK State Cowboys to follow.  The OK State anchor puts a lock on what OU can and cannot do when it comes time for conference alignment.  If the Big XII expands, contracts, or stays with the status quo, it will be Texas that decides the answer.  The Horns have the peso, thus, they have the say so.  TCU, Baylor, KSU, Kansas, OSU, TT, ISU, WV, and even OU to a lesser extent, should follow the model of Tiger Woods' golf caddie, "Show up, keep up, and shut up."  Everything else will take care of itself.  For UH, we need to keep our Tier I education status, keep our football, men's basketball, and baseball programs on solid ground, keep improving attendance, keep improving facilities (sports and other), and keep building the brand under Dr. Renu Khator and Tilman Ferttita.  Do all of that, and expansion will take a good look at you.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

lol

[PhatMack19]

9 minutes ago, Hook'em said:

Just read Manny Diaz to the U after accepting the Temple head coaching job recently. 

That’s crazy.  Wonder if he will still wear cleats as the head coach?

[TxHoops]

1 hour ago, PhatMack19 said:

lol

Me thinks the truth is more scary than funny, little sister...

[PhatMack19]

13 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Me thinks the truth is more scary than funny, little sister...

Some people on this thread don’t understand where the money comes from in sports and how TV contracts work in conference realignment.  

[PhatMack19]

Miami is paying Temple $4 mil for hiring their coach that was there for all of 30 minutes.  Score for Temple 

[TxHoops]

4 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:

Some people on this thread don’t understand where the money comes from in sports and how TV contracts work in conference realignment.  

I think you and certainly some of your compadres don’t understand the power structure in CFB.  If conference realignment happens, you guys are going to be on someone’s teat, that’s for sure.  And one fairly hilarious recent post posited that Texas would be scrambling for a conference to join.  Make no mistake about it, Texas is and always will be one of the crowned jewels of college sports, on a very short list of said jewels.  And here’s a news flash, there is only one Texas school on that list.  

I guess you guys should root for the status quo.  Better to be mediocre on a dominant jock strap, I suppose...

[TxHoops]

6 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:

Miami is paying Temple $4 mil for hiring their coach that was there for all of 30 minutes.  Score for Temple 

That is crazy.  Maybe he will be great, but seems like a very blah hire.   Hard to fathom Manny is an upgrade from Richt.  

[TexazBall]

26 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

That is crazy.  Maybe he will be great, but seems like a very blah hire.   Hard to fathom Manny is an upgrade from Richt.  

Is other choices I would have explored before getting Diaz

 

[TxHoops]

35 minutes ago, TexazBall said:

Is other choices I would have explored before getting Diaz

 

Exactly.   Hard to believe they couldn’t get a Campbell or Babers.  

Diaz looked like a genius in the SEC when he was blitzing every down in a league that had incredibly lousy QB play at the time.  Went to Texas and got exposed against high powered offenses.   Nice guy and a good recruiter though.  If he hires some really good coordinators, could work out.  No way he’s my first choice at a school like that though.  Rutgers seemed about right for his next move. 

[1989NDN]

15 hours ago, PhatMack19 said:

Some people on this thread don’t understand where the money comes from in sports and how TV contracts work in conference realignment.  

I'm aware of where the money comes from for college sports and how TV contracts work for conference realignment.  The networks/advertisers hand-out the money, but the NCAA controls the product on the field.  The NCAA will do what ND, Texas, Alabama, Southern Cal, Michigan, Ohio State, and a few other power brands dictate.  The rest of us need to be attractive enough to be selected to fill-out the framework.  That includes TAMU.  The formula to get picked:  win, continue to win, win some more, win big on the national stage when you have your shot, have outstanding facilities, solid fan base, and always improving your brand.  TAMU does great at most of those criteria.  Props to TAMU.  Others of us have a ways to go, but we're moving in the right direction.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

[Whoopi Goldberg's Lips]

^^^Easy, all you need to do is hire aggy accountants... You'd be #1 in revenue before you know it!!!

 

[PhatMack19]

1 hour ago, 1989NDN said:

I'm aware of where the money comes from for college sports and how TV contracts work for conference realignment.  The networks/advertisers hand-out the money, but the NCAA controls the product on the field.  The NCAA will do what ND, Texas, Alabama, Southern Cal, Michigan, Ohio State, and a few other power brands dictate.  The rest of us need to be attractive enough to be selected to fill-out the framework.  That includes TAMU.  The formula to get picked:  win, continue to win, win some more, win big on the national stage when you have your shot, have outstanding facilities, solid fan base, and always improving your brand.  TAMU does great at most of those criteria.  Props to TAMU.  Others of us have a ways to go, but we're moving in the right direction.

Go Indians.  Go Coogs.  Peace.

The NCAA doesn’t control anything on the field.  They aren’t even part of the College Football Playoff.  The Power 5 conferences run the show and get the money from TV and Bowl games.  The NCAA makes almost all of its revenue from the basketball tourney.

[PhatMack19]

Conferences are in business to maximize profits for their teams.  Tv revenue is the main part of that.  For instance the SEC Network charges $1.30 /month for instate and $.25 for out of state.  Adding A&M and the almost 8 million households in Texas increases their profits $8 mil a month just from 3rd tier rights.  That doesn’t include 1st & 2nd tier that will also be renegotiated.  Adding another team from Texas doesn’t help that number.  

As for adding Texas to the SEC, it won’t happen.  There is a block of schools that don’t want multiple teams from their state and will vote together to keep them out.  Their best bet is the Big 10, but they will have to drop their network.    

Houston’s problem is that they are in Texas and don’t add much TV money.  If the Big 12 does expand, they will go out of state and add more TV’s.  

[king]

Not sure how I feel about this hire but what I been reading up he isn’t playing around. He canned all the coaching staff. We got few more commits. The alumni’s love the hire.

Diaz vs Mack Brown will be interesting next year.

[Whoopi Goldberg's Lips]

^^ That's all pretty accurate. None of the UT stuff is happening till the GOR expires and I still lean toward going independent after that. The issue is what happens with ou. We're tied at the hip with them for now, and likely could end up going to the same conference when the Big 12 dies. 

Another legit possibility is going to the PAC, creating a 16 team league. UT, Tech, ou, and Okie lite in with the Arizona schools, Utah, and Colorado in one division, then the Pacific coast schools in the other. I could did that as well.

[TexazBall]

25 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:

Conferences are in business to maximize profits for their teams.  Tv revenue is the main part of that.  For instance the SEC Network charges $1.30 /month for instate and $.25 for out of state.  Adding A&M and the almost 8 million households in Texas increases their profits $8 mil a month just from 3rd tier rights.  That doesn’t include 1st & 2nd tier that will also be renegotiated.  Adding another team from Texas doesn’t help that number.  

As for adding Texas to the SEC, it won’t happen.  There is a block of schools that don’t want multiple teams from their state and will vote together to keep them out.  Their best bet is the Big 10, but they will have to drop their network.    

Houston’s problem is that they are in Texas and don’t add much TV money.  If the Big 12 does expand, they will go out of state and add more TV’s.  

If you Think the SEC won’t jump at the opportunity to Add Texas your just in denial,,,I hate how cocky Texas is to, but come’on Man, an opportunity to add a brand that big, I doubt the SEC doesn’t use that avenue, and even if it is a block, they’ll look for a way. 

But I doubt Texas wants the SEC, you go from being able to make the playoffs every year to, maybe once every 5 with the tough schedule . 

I wish there’d bring the old SWC back 

[TexazBall]

6 minutes ago, Whoopi Goldberg's Lips said:

^^ That's all pretty accurate. None of the UT stuff is happening till the GOR expires and I still lean toward going independent after that. The issue is what happens with ou. We're tied at the hip with them for now, and likely could end up going to the same conference when the Big 12 dies. 

Another legit possibility is going to the PAC, creating a 16 team league. UT, Tech, ou, and Okie lite in with the Arizona schools, Utah, and Colorado in one division, then the Pacific coast schools in the other. I could did that as well.

Ugh If I’m Texas I’d rather the Big 10, stronger conference all the way around, plus pac 12 travel would be brutle, plus the game times