5GallonBucket Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 I know some don’t like lil dribblers but in a small town like ktz and given the ecomical class that’s all that is available. If lil dribbler coaches would actually teach skills and discipline and accountability instead of just trying to win so they can puff there chest out and get some kind of (false)notoriety . that would help some. Bobcat1 1 Quote
GoFundMe Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, BADSANTA said: Kountze waiting for some move in kids from Silsbee I guess. You mean move backs? A few kids over the last couple years have moved to Silsbee and other places, but from what I hear they are not coming "back" to Kountze. Quote
ballup Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 Kountze maybe down this year. But give the Lumberton kids some credit. They have a lot of kids that can play. They have been in most games I seen them play this year. 5GallonBucket and Hagar 2 Quote
whsalum Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 Kountze will be in the hunt for a playoff spot. It will be the 4th spot I think and by Kountze standards that's a very down year. Duane will get what they have to give and by the time district rolls they will be better. Quote
DeuceSixSuited Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, GoFundMe said: He wasn't very good back then either. Oops. You are out of your mind. That’s not even close to being true. He is a top tier coach. Coach.Shu, mragc2007 and whsalum 3 Quote
Sportsfan1999 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 Joubert is a guru!!! Great coach Quote
mragc2007 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 OF 8th grade beat Kountze last week 68-0 Quote
no-look Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, mragc2007 said: OF 8th grade beat Kountze last week 68-0 What??? Quote
5GallonBucket Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, no-look said: What??? Yep. It’s true Quote
Tigers2010 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 12 hours ago, mragc2007 said: OF 8th grade beat Kountze last week 68-0 You got to be kidding. Quote
5GallonBucket Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: You got to be kidding. Nope. It could ve been worse. OF stopped pressing after about 4 min in 1st qtr. in which ktz never got the ball past half court Quote
Tigers2010 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said: Nope. It could ve been worse. OF stopped pressing after about 4 min in 1st qtr. in which ktz never got the ball past half court These are A team games? How bad are the 7th Graders? Nothing coming up the pipeline in Kountze? Quote
5GallonBucket Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 Yes that was 8 th grade A. There’s is no b team for 8 th. Which is sad. Several players from last year decided not to play several have discipline/grade issues, one moved to buna and another to Silsbee and another possibly to warren.7 th grade is ok....there is an A and B team. got one with some height and seems very into it always clapping and high fiving In my opinion doesn’t have much coming up as for as overall groups in each class. The freshman group I know have 2 that can go. Won’t be surprised if one or both end up on var before season is over. Tigers2010 1 Quote
GoFundMe Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 16 hours ago, bradyb said: You are out of your mind. That’s not even close to being true. He is a top tier coach. 16 hours ago, bradyb said: Well, I guess I am out of my mind then. Quote
Bobcat1 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 20 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: I know some don’t like lil dribblers but in a small town like ktz and given the ecomical class that’s all that is available. If lil dribbler coaches would actually teach skills and discipline and accountability instead of just trying to win so they can puff there chest out and get some kind of (false)notoriety . that would help some. I agree! The coaches focus on winning and do not teach fundamentals - It’s such a disservice to the kids. Quote
oldschool2 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 17 hours ago, bradyb said: You are out of your mind. That’s not even close to being true. He is a top tier coach. I'm not saying he's not.. but can he win with bad / below average teams? There's no question he's had success but look at the players he had when he had that kind of success. Lot of D1 athletes come to mind. This brings us back to the point I make all of the time. Even good coaches can't win without good players...case in point. What's Kountze's record? Quote
aTmfan06 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, oldschool2 said: I'm not saying he's not.. but can he win with bad / below average teams? There's no question he's had success but look at the players he had when he had that kind of success. Lot of D1 athletes come to mind. This brings us back to the point I make all of the time. Even good coaches can't win without good players...case in point. What's Kountze's record? Brady was talking about GoFundMe. Who said he didn’t think Joubert was a top tier coach. Quote
oldschool2 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 50 minutes ago, aTmfan06 said: Brady was talking about GoFundMe. Who said he didn’t think Joubert was a top tier coach. I know that. I was saying that I'm not saying he's not a top tier coach...but how come a top tier coach has the record that he has? I was just reiterating the point that even a top tier coach need players or they can't win either. Almost makes one wonder who else could have been considered a top tier coach had they had the talent that some seem to get on a regular basis. Quote
DeuceSixSuited Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 6 hours ago, oldschool2 said: I'm not saying he's not.. but can he win with bad / below average teams? There's no question he's had success but look at the players he had when he had that kind of success. Lot of D1 athletes come to mind. This brings us back to the point I make all of the time. Even good coaches can't win without good players...case in point. What's Kountze's record? A lot of D1 Athletes? Name them please sir. Last year he had zero players that play college ball now and they went to the regional tournament. Tigers2010 1 Quote
whsalum Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 I don't doubt Coach Joubert coaching ability in the least. I do wonder sometimes if being the head coach of two sports may hurt the development of some of the basketball players. That's a tall order for one person. no-look and GoFundMe 2 Quote
scoopno1 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 I think Kountze only had about three varsity players returning this year. Then they got in trouble and were unable to play this year leaving the entire team without any players with previous varsity experience. I have known Coach Joubert for some time. He is not a guy who is real tolerant with people who disobey. He is kind of a no nonsense guy. I am sure losing is harder on him than it is on the players. I suspect that by the end of the year he will have the Lions playing well enough to earn one of the four play-off positions. Quote
GoFundMe Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 16 hours ago, aTmfan06 said: Brady was talking about GoFundMe. Who said he didn’t think Joubert was a top tier coach. you disagree? come on man! Quote
Coach.Shu Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 18 hours ago, oldschool2 said: I'm not saying he's not.. but can he win with bad / below average teams? There's no question he's had success but look at the players he had when he had that kind of success. Lot of D1 athletes come to mind. This brings us back to the point I make all of the time. Even good coaches can't win without good players...case in point. What's Kountze's record? I understand your point about having to have good players to win - I would say "skilled" players. It is the coaches' job to develop skilled players within the program. And yet there are many coaches that have great athletes and skilled players but can't win consistently with them. You can't judge a coach always on a win loss record. You have to see how the team develops over a season or even a couple of seasons. I haven't seen Kountze this year and don't know much about them - but I would bet that they will get better as the year goes because Joubert can flat out coach and knows how to develop players. If they are young this year then I would bet they get better next year and Joubert will have them as competitive or more competitive than most any other coach given the same players. No question he is a top tier coach. Quote
no-look Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 11 hours ago, whsalum said: I don't doubt Coach Joubert coaching ability in the least. I do wonder sometimes if being the head coach of two sports may hurt the development of some of the basketball players. That's a tall order for one person. Probably doesn’t help either sport. Kountze always seems to struggle in football, not sure why but evidently this years basketball team has no Fiddle in the band. Quote
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