Mid Season SETX Top 10

[Mean Machine]

It would be great to have this type of warm-up up tournament, but it would require some alignment of the stars to get the coaches to agree to play these games on the cusp of playoffs for most teams.

Of the teams listed, Lumberton is the only team on this list not expected by most prognosticators to be a playoff level team at the time the early pre-district part of the season was going on, but I guess them vs Legacy would be fun for some to watch due to the player "transfers" out of Lumberton to Legacy, and familiarity of the some of the players between the two teams.

Woodville vs Silsbee would be a sweet matchup as well, as was listed above.

[OneChance]

What? Umm PNG I would say is least likely according to history, since they don’t know how to spell playoff! When is the last time Lumberton missed the playoffs?

[Mean Machine]

4 minutes ago, OneChance said:

What? Umm PNG I would say is least likely according to history, since they don’t know how to spell playoff! When is the last time Lumberton missed the playoffs?

As someone once said, I'm not here to talk about the past..... I was speaking in context of this season only, since that's all that will determine playoffs....

[OneChance]

PNG in Allen Iverson voice “Playoffs? Playoffs, we talkin about the Playoffs?”

[BMTSoulja1]

1 hour ago, $$Buckets$$ said:

True United is undefeated but going to that Livingston tournament was kinda ugh.

I agree,  but they did go to another tourney...

[Mean Machine]

16 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

I agree,  but they did go to another tourney...

I also saw on the tournament schedule my daughter showed me, United will be at the Barbers Hill Tourney over the Christmas break. The list of teams looked to be mostly solid 6A programs as well as some good 5A teams, including Fort Bend Hightower, who was listed as 20-0 and the (#2) 5A school in the state, on Max Preps.

[MhsTitans]

3 hours ago, OneChance said:

Who do you guys have?

1. HJ

2. United

3. Woodville

4. Silsbee

5. Barbers Hill

6. PAM

7. Orangefield

8. Jasper

9. Legacy

10. Lumberton or Bridge City

Base off potential and  you knowing what 1 of the 5 best players in setx could do I can see why you have pam @6. But if I'm to be honest they haven't done anything to date to deserve to be this high in anyone's rankings.

[BH85]

55 minutes ago, Mean Machine said:

I also saw on the tournament schedule my daughter showed me, United will be at the Barbers Hill Tourney over the Christmas break. The list of teams looked to be mostly solid 6A programs as well as some good 5A teams, including Fort Bend Hightower, who was listed as 20-0 and the (#2) 5A school in the state, on Max Preps.

Hightower is TABC#1 in 5A.  Dekaney is down a little this year, but they will be pretty tough.  Morton Ranch is also having a good year.  Tournament should be strong on both the boys and girls sides

[workbootz]

7 hours ago, $$Buckets$$ said:

I would love to see a HJ vs United game!  Kirvan would be a problem for HJ but HJ's 1 thru 4 would be a problem for United imo.  They are long and all 4 of them are 3 level scorers ( 3pt, midrange, and driving to the basket).  It would definitely be a fast paced game!

I have to disagree with you on that one United has a freshman that's pretty darn good.  

[Alpha Wolf]

19 hours ago, $$Buckets$$ said:

True United is undefeated but going to that Livingston tournament was kinda ugh.

They won't be in that one next year.  

[Alpha Wolf]

18 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

I agree,  but they did go to another tourney...

Barbers Hill tournament next week, I'll be in attendance...

[Alpha Wolf]

19 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

18 hours ago, BH85 said:

Hightower is TABC#1 in 5A.  Dekaney is down a little this year, but they will be pretty tough.  Morton Ranch is also having a good year.  Tournament should be strong on both the boys and girls sides

 

19 hours ago, Mean Machine said:

I also saw on the tournament schedule my daughter showed me, United will be at the Barbers Hill Tourney over the Christmas break. The list of teams looked to be mostly solid 6A programs as well as some good 5A teams, including Fort Bend Hightower, who was listed as 20-0 and the (#2) 5A school in the state, on Max Preps.

 

I was trying to list the complete list of 24 teams but couldn't get it to upload...

[Mean Machine]

15 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said:

I was trying to list the complete list of 24 teams but couldn't get it to upload...

I will see if I can get the copy I have to load in a new post 

[BH85]

2018 Gulf Coast Classic (Girls Division)
Thursday December 27, 2018
Pool 1			Wins	Loses	Pool 2			Wins	Loses
Alief Taylor					Morton Ranch
Port Art. Memorial					GCM
Dobie					Grand Oaks
Time	Home Team		Visiting Team	Gym	Time	Home Team		Visiting Team	Gym
10:30	Alief Taylor	vs.	Port Art. Memorial	MSN2	10:30	Morton Ranch	vs.	GCM	Comp
3:00	Dobie	vs.	Alief Taylor	Aux.	3:00	Grand Oaks	vs.	Morton Ranch	F.H.
7:30	Port Art. Memorial	vs.	Dobie	MSN2	7:30	GCM	vs.	Grand Oaks	MSN1
Pool 3			Wins	Loses	Pool 4			Wins	Loses
College Park					Hightower
Lumberton					Sterling
Clear Brook					FB Dulles
Time	Home Team		Visiting Team	Gym	Time	Home Team		Visiting Team	Gym
10:30	College Park	vs.	Lumberton	Aux.	10:30	Hightower	vs.	Sterling	MSN1
3:00	Clear Brook	vs.	College Park	Comp.	3:00	FB Dulles	vs.	Hightower	MSN1
6:00	Lumberton	vs.	Clear Brook	MSN2	6:00	Sterling	vs.	FB Dulles	MSS
Pool 5			Wins	Loses	Pool 6			Wins	Loses
Furr					Travis
Barbers Hill					Humble
Con. Lutheran					Westbrook
Time	Home Team		Visiting Team	Gym	Time	Home Team		Visiting Team	Gym
12:00	Furr	vs.	Barbers Hill	F.H.	12:00	Travis	vs.	Humble	Aux.
3:00	Con. Lutheran	vs.	Furr	MSN2	3:00	Westbrook	vs.	Travis	MSS
7:30	Barbers Hill	vs.	Con. Lutheran	F.H.	7:30	Humble	vs.	Westbrook	MSS
Pool 7			Wins	Loses	Pool 8			Wins	Loses
Dekaney					United
FB Elkins					FB Kempner
Legacy					Lamar
Time	Home Team		Visiting Team	Gym	Time	Home Team		Visiting Team	Gym
12:00	Dekaney	vs.	FB Elkins	MSS	12:00	United	vs.	FB Kempner	MSN2
4:30	Legacy	vs.	Dekaney	MSS	4:30	Lamar	vs.	United	Aux.
7:30	FB Elkins	vs.	Legacy	Comp	7:30	FB Kempner	vs.	Lamar	Aux.

[Mean Machine]

Thx BH 85, I was having trouble with the upload and was going the manual route, which was slow going as well, lol.

[Bobcat1]

I started it's own thread.  

[Alpha Wolf]

1 hour ago, Mean Machine said:

Thx BH 85, I was having trouble with the upload and was going the manual route, which was slow going as well, lol.

Yea, I started typing all that out but realized I'm not going to be able to do it 

[Bobcat1]

On 12/20/2018 at 11:50 AM, OneChance said:

This was Vypes last Top 10 on Dec 4

1. Hardin-Jefferson (10-2) - Last Week #1
2. United (9-0) - Last Week #3
3. Woodville (13-1) - Last Week #2
4. Silsbee (3-2) - Last Week #4
5. Barbers Hill (8-6) - Last Week #5
6. Jasper (12-2) - Last Week #7
7. Hamshire-Fannett (10-3) - Last Week #8
8. Orangefield (8-4) - Last Week #9
9. Bridge City (12-4) - Last Week NR
10. Buna (7-3) - Last Week #6

Hasn't Vidor beaten a few of the teams on this list? 

[Mean Machine]

Per Max Preps this is what I saw:

Lost to HJ, 1-1 vs Orangefield (lost at Lumberton Tourney, won at OField great shooting night), Lost to BH in Lumberton Tourney, Lost twice to Bridge City in what appears to be close games. They also played Westbrook close two times in losing efforts, lost to Silsbee on par with what 22-4a district teams, except for Bridge City, have lost to Silsbee by. Their record is listed at 12-12 overall, 2-1 in district, again per Max Preps site.

I watched a number of their games at the Lumberton tourney, and will say they are an extremely hard working team whose players do not take a play off, effort wise, especially on the defensive end of the court. You may beat them, but you are going to earn it physically.

[OneChance]

1. HJ (15-3)

2. United (19-0)

3. Woodville (17-1)

4. Silsbee (13-2)

5. Barbers Hill 

6. PAM

7. Orangefield

8. Jasper (17-2)

9. Legacy

10. Lumberton (9-12)

10. Bridge City 

Mentioned

PNG (12-6)

Buna

Huntington

If I didn’t put their records it’s because I couldn’t find updated total game record for them.

[Cat22]

Orangefield is 16-5

[Mean Machine]

Still think you are off with Lumberton at this point, One Chance.

"Team First" posted "BC is now 15-5" in a post last night in terms of their overall record, and at this point they are 2-1 in district vs 2-2 for Lumberton.  That would seem to grade them higher.

Also, PNG is a more veteran team in a larger district with experienced upper classmen skilled guards, with a better record. Also they defeated Lumberton at the Reservation when they played earlier this month. Again, that would seem to grade them higher as well. Turn that spotlight back towards Mid-County, lol.

One last point is I'm sure there are people out there that don't use your metric of "quality losses" when they factor in rankings either, as is what you may be doing in terms of Lumberton's current record. It is nice to debate though.....

[OneChance]

HJ (15-3)

2. United (19-0)

3. Woodville (17-1)

4. Silsbee (13-2)

5. Barbers Hill (9-9)

6. PAM (7-8)

7. Orangefield (16-5)

8. Jasper (17-2)

9. Legacy

10. Lumberton (9-12)

10. Bridge City (15-5)

Mentioned

PNG (12-6)

Buna

Huntington

If I didn’t put their records it’s because I couldn’t find updated total game record for them.

It to me is just looking at quality of teams you have played, some of the common opponents and how each of the teams faired against them. PNG had a horrible showing up in Tyler tournament and if you look at some of the wins on the season, they are not very good wins. With a huge piece of our puzzle out with an ACL, that puts us behind and are going to have a hard time duplicating what she brought.

[OneChance]

PAM’s record does not reflect what they are capable of, Julia at the post is hard to stop for many teams on this list.

[OneChance]

Lumberton is putting 50-70 points on the board on a regular basis. PNG I think scored 70 points last night for the first time in school history! Lol