Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said: Let’s get real, this is American politics as it is. Trump controlled every branch of government and while he has the economy on the up and up he has failed on his two biggest campaign promises repeal OC and having Mexico pay for the wall. Will the democrats play fair no . Trump has already championed this as his shutdown. The dems sadly enough will relish this they will force trump to surrender and call it a win or keep this going as long as possible. Every campaign add will start with trump telling chuck. Yes I’ll will own this shutdown. Trump can end this shutdown the dems could end this shutdown both won’t because both could care less about the People it’s all about 2020 from here on out. Thats the sad fact. Should trump take less yes . Should dems throw in daca or something they could win and get this done yes. The saddest thing is even if they did make a deal dems and Republicans voters alike will cry wolf. Fall on one's sword. Quote
PhatMack19 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 The annual budget is $4.4 trillion. Trump is asking for $5.7 billion for a wall. Now imagine a person that makes $44.000 a year shutting down their home over $57. It’s not about the money for Democrats. It’s just crumbs as Pelosi would say. It’s all about politics and who can claim a win for their party. Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, PhatMack19 said: It’s all about politics and who can claim a win for their party. Why does it have to be about the party? Yea everyone loves going to parties. But parties aren't for the parties. They're for the people. Just do something. Right or wrong it doesn't matter. The next guy will change it anyway. Quote
PhatMack19 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, WOSdrummer99 said: Why does it have to be about the party? Yea everyone loves going to parties. But parties aren't for the parties. They're for the people. Just do something. Right or wrong it doesn't matter. The next guy will change it anyway. The next guy will change it is correct. That’s why we need the wall. WOSdrummer99 1 Quote
baddog Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 7 hours ago, PhatMack19 said: The next guy will change it is correct. That’s why we need the wall. The next guy is Trump, and we will take back the house. BS Wildcats 1 Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, baddog said: and we will take back the house. We the people already control the house. We the people have elected these politicians. We the people are being played by the powers that be. rc2182 1 Quote
mat Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 Trump just needs to open the government back up, let the workers go back to work and at the same time shut down the border all together. That's what he needs to do and agree to reopen when he has funding for the wall. baddog and Bobcat1 2 Quote
baddog Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, mat said: Trump just needs to open the government back up, let the workers go back to work and at the same time shut down the border all together. That's what he needs to do and agree to reopen when he has funding for the wall. Sounds very sensible Quote
westend1 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 Hmmmm sounds a lot like something I suggested a little while back. Shut it down mat 1 Quote
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