mat Posted January 9, 2019 Report Posted January 9, 2019 The democrats could end this as easily as Trump could. Furthermore, The dems could agree to fund the wall and attach just about anything they wanted to get passed. The liberals could actually get a lot accomplished by funding the wall but it's all about making Trump look bad. With that being said, Trump could have put this much pressure on Mexico for funding like he promised rather than his own citizens. I'm not happy with anyone in Washington. Quote
mat Posted January 9, 2019 Report Posted January 9, 2019 23 hours ago, Law Man said: You make it seem as if we are only missing one pay check. I can only assume you know when this will end. Many people live pay check to paycheck. Many people have maxed out cards and established new line of credit during the holidays. My question about how long can your household can go without funds was not a jab. I wanted to know under the circumstances how long can your family survive. Mind you, I can not apply for unemployment. Your Mortgage is due and you have kids in College. You must still find a way to work. If I could afford to fly I wouldn't do it now. I feel for you and all the others that are directly affected. Me and other posters can give our opinions but we are not feeling the direct affects of this political power play. Bobcat1 and LumRaiderFan 2 Quote
Hagar Posted January 9, 2019 Report Posted January 9, 2019 On January 7, 2019 at 5:22 PM, Law Man said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . Watch the video with Sarah Sanders. Their is no reason to hold the other right agency's hostage. I'd vote for you as President. I am a Republican and always have been. This guy is a joke. He is not a President for all. He doesn't know how to Unite the Country. We all know he lies and yes all politicians do. Federal workers are Americans and some live pay check bro pay check. No, it doesn't appear he wants to help. Try talking to a local Federal worker Republican or Democrat and tell me if they feel he has helped them. I'll wait. (Watch Video) On January 7, 2019 at 5:22 PM, Law Man said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . Watch the video with Sarah Sanders. Their is no reason to hold the other right agency's hostage. I'd vote for you as President. I am a Republican and always have been. This guy is a joke. He is not a President for all. He doesn't know how to Unite the Country. We all know he lies and yes all politicians do. Federal workers are Americans and some live pay check bro pay check. No, it doesn't appear he wants to help. Try talking to a local Federal worker Republican or Democrat and tell me if they feel he has helped them. I'll wait. (Watch Video) Despite any negative comments from Chris Wallace directed at Sarah Sanders, we need a wall. Again, it is illegal to cross our borders unless you've gone through the proper channels. You can build a wall and curtail a vast majority of illegals, or hire 10,000 more border patrol agents, build hugh facilities to house the captured illegals, & furnish food, clothing, & medical for the hundreds of thousands of illegals until their eventual deportation. And this cost goes on forever. It's a no-brainer we need the wall. It's sad politicians, in this case the Democrats, won't do what's right for America, & is making Govt employees suffer. Btw, I have a relative who is a Govt worker, and he & his wife are behind Trump 100%. Difference between you & them, you're not affected by illegal immigrants as much as we are in Texas. Quote
Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Hagar said: Despite any negative comments from Chris Wallace directed at Sarah Sanders, we need a wall. Again, it is illegal to cross our borders unless you've gone through the proper channels. You can build a wall and curtail a vast majority of illegals, or hire 10,000 more border patrol agents, build hugh facilities to house the captured illegals, & furnish food, clothing, & medical for the hundreds of thousands of illegals until their eventual deportation. And this cost goes on forever. It's a no-brainer we need the wall. It's sad politicians, in this case the Democrats, won't do what's right for America, & is making Govt employees suffer. Btw, I have a relative who is a Govt worker, and he & his wife are behind Trump 100%. Difference between you & them, you're not affected by illegal immigrants as much as we are in Texas. Early May of 2018, Coast Guard made "historic" bust of cocaine, intercepting at least three tons of drug on a ship 300 nautical miles off Central American country's coast in international waters. Among the detained were citizens of Columbia, Ecuador and Peru. The ship was not headed for a wall. Quote
Hagar Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, Law Man said: Early May of 2018, Coast Guard made "historic" bust of cocaine, intercepting at least three tons of drug on a ship 300 nautical miles off Central American country's coast in international waters. Among the detained were citizens of Columbia, Ecuador and Peru. The ship was not headed for a wall. A wall, nor 10,000 more Border Patrol agents are going to completely stop illegal immigration. No doubt boats full of them will attempt to enter, but it will slow it down. There coming in now by the thousands, bringing and spreading diseases. Once in, they’re costing the American taxpayers billions. If you’re against the wall, why? And then, what is your suggestion to protect our borders? I just read this a few minutes ago. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
Tigers2010 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 There is a country that was having issues with Rhino poachers. The horn is rather expensive on the black market. To fend off the poachers, they instituted a "shoot on site" approach. Needless to say, the poaching problem in this particular park has been drastically reduced... Shoot on site. Don't want to die, don't break the law. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hagar said: A wall, nor 10,000 more Border Patrol agents are going to completely stop illegal immigration. No doubt boats full of them will attempt to enter, but it will slow it down. There coming in now by the thousands, bringing and spreading diseases. Once in, they’re costing the American taxpayers billions. If you’re against the wall, why? And then, what is your suggestion to protect our borders? I just read this a few minutes ago. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Mr. Hagar before the shut down essential (essential) Law Enforcement workers complained about shortage of staff. We really need more boots on the ground. What good is a wall if you don't have staffing. I am all for border security. I work in the field. We were burned out before the shut down. The President cut essential staffing by a lot in the last two years. There are plans to cut more essential staffing. The truth, is we are short on staffing and are required to do more with less. My issue is with prioritization. American men and women who swore to protect are being punished. Freezing pay, freezing locality pay, and shutting down Government for months or years. Quote
Hagar Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 Btw Lawman, if this is about your job, I totally understand your anger and frustration. Many of us have had financial setbacks. I lost my job of 32 years to company downsizing at 54. After a long search, I found another job (making much less). I then had to work until I was 70 to retire, so yes, I feel your pain. What I don’t understand is why it’s directed at Trump. Yes he had a Repub Congress his first two years, and he concentrated on what he knows best, putting America back to work. You’re a pawn to politicians who are putting Party ahead of our border security, and our Govt workers. And I haven’t heard one viable solution from them for anything. Their whole current platform can be condensed into a few words - Hate Trump and Tax the rich (rich = a Dem euphemism for anyone not on welfare). Jmo but your anger/frustration should be directed at the democrats. Quote
Tigers2010 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Law Man said: Mr. Hagar before the shut down essential (essential) Law Enforcement workers complained about shortage of staff. We really need more boots on the ground. What good is a wall if you don't have staffing. I am all for border security. I work in the field. We were burned out before the shut down. The President cut essential staffing by a lot in the last two years. There are plans to cut more essential staffing. The truth, is we are short on staffing and are required to do more with less. My issue is with prioritization. American men and women who swore to protect are being punished. Freezing pay, freezing locality pay, and shutting down Government for months or years. No reason for Trump to be blamed. Democrats have supported measure that gave away 10 and 20 times more than what Trump has asked for. Democrats are blocking this to prevent Trump from "winning". 5 million dollars is nothing compared to money they have voted to spend on non-essentials. Why is it Trumps fault? Why is not blame on Democrats holding everything. Democrats approve the bill, it is over. Quote
Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: No reason for Trump to be blamed. Democrats have supported measure that gave away 10 and 20 times more than what Trump has asked for. Democrats are blocking this to prevent Trump from "winning". 5 million dollars is nothing compared to money they have voted to spend on non-essentials. Why is it Trumps fault? Why is not blame on Democrats holding everything. Democrats approve the bill, it is over. Democrats are not my President. Trump is the President. Let's not forget for the last two years we controlled the White House, Congress, and Senate. We can go on all day pointing. Quote
Hagar Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Law Man said: Mr. Hagar before the shut down essential (essential) Law Enforcement workers complained about shortage of staff. We really need more boots on the ground. What good is a wall if you don't have staffing. I am all for border security. I work in the field. We were burned out before the shut down. The President cut essential staffing by a lot in the last two years. There are plans to cut more essential staffing. The truth, is we are short on staffing and are required to do more with less. My issue is with prioritization. American men and women who swore to protect are being punished. Freezing pay, freezing locality pay, and shutting down Government for months or years. I agree we’re short on staffing. According to what I’ve read, we’ve been short for a long time. But with a wall, the current number of agents should be plenty. One area our Govt is needed is in security. That would be military and Federal Law Enforcement. Idiot politicians, on both sides, are to blame for inadequate staffing. Quote
Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hagar said: I agree we’re short on staffing. According to what I’ve read, we’ve been short for a long time. But with a wall, the current number of agents should be plenty. One area our Govt is needed is in security. That would be military and Federal Law Enforcement. Idiot politicians, on both sides, are to blame for inadequate staffing. I agree. Quote
Tigers2010 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Law Man said: Democrats are not my President. Trump is the President. Let's not forget for the last two years we controlled the White House, Congress, and Senate. We can go on all day pointing. Trump is trying to do his job. Democrats are doing anything they can to prevent him from doing his job. So blame the person actually trying to do his job, and ignore the children just trying to be hindrances. That makes perfect sense. Hagar 1 Quote
Tigers2010 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 The problem really originates with the complete dumb-asses we have in this country that have voted people like Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Ocasio-Cortes, etc into office. BS Wildcats 1 Quote
Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Law Man said: Democrats are not my President. Trump is the President. Let's not forget for the last two years we controlled the White House, Congress, and Senate. We can go on all day pointing. He put judges in the bench in the last two years when we controlled everything but they couldn't come together on a wall. Quote
Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: Trump is trying to do his job. Democrats are doing anything they can to prevent him from doing his job. So blame the person actually trying to do his job, and ignore the children just trying to be hindrances. That makes perfect sense. Trump is not worried about a wall. He is concerned about the investigation. Quote
Tigers2010 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Law Man said: Trump is not worried about a wall. He is concerned about the investigation. LOL and I will have to check out on that one. Good conversation. Quote
Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: LOL and I will have to check out on that one. Good conversation. Once things heat up me and you won't even be debating the wall. Before midterm elections we were at each other over the ,and after the midterms were over the topic became Comey . Instead of a wall he should be talking about his recent biggest accomplishment with prison reform. Quote
Law Man Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: LOL and I will have to check out on that one. Good conversation. It was a pleasure talking to you. I have to report for duty. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: The problem really originates with the complete dumb-asses we have in this country that have voted people like Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Ocasio-Cortes, etc into office. +100000 Tigers2010 1 Quote
PhatMack19 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 9:27 PM, PhatMack19 said: Was today the first payday that you didn’t get paid? I guess my question got skipped over Quote
Bobcat1 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said: I guess my question got skipped over I don't think so, I think it's tomorrow. Quote
PhatMack19 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobcat1 said: I don't think so, I think it's tomorrow. I know the Federal Prison gets paid on Tuesdays and this was their first check to miss. I thought all of the govt got paid on the same day. From my understanding they will get back pay, but not for overtime. They were already short staffed, but normally had plenty of people willing to pick up shifts. No one is willing to pick up open shifts now for free. Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 Let’s get real, this is American politics as it is. Trump controlled every branch of government and while he has the economy on the up and up he has failed on his two biggest campaign promises repeal OC and having Mexico pay for the wall. Will the democrats play fair no . Trump has already championed this as his shutdown. The dems sadly enough will relish this they will force trump to surrender and call it a win or keep this going as long as possible. Every campaign add will start with trump telling chuck. Yes I’ll will own this shutdown. Trump can end this shutdown the dems could end this shutdown both won’t because both could care less about the People it’s all about 2020 from here on out. Thats the sad fact. Should trump take less yes . Should dems throw in daca or something they could win and get this done yes. The saddest thing is even if they did make a deal dems and Republicans voters alike will cry wolf. Bobcat1 1 Quote
Bobcat1 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Posted January 10, 2019 Serious question, what happened to the wall that was already there? Can it not just be improved? Quote
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