Mature Stoners

[Hagar]

Most of my personal comments many of you know already, but we do have new posters, so I’ll repeat them.

I graduated in the early 60’s from high school.  Served in the Army from 65 to 67.  Right in the middle of the new drug culture.  I’ve never used mj.  Been with people who did, but I was vehemently against it, and stayed that way until about 68 years old.  I finally realized that outlawing it was useless.  Like prohibition, it’s not working, no matter how much money we throw at it.  I still don’t use it because it’s against the law in Texas.  I wonder why Texas doesn’t legalize it, and take the money out of the hands of the Cartels?  Texas prides itself on personal independence.  Less Govt.  So why not legalize it?  Perhaps for the same reason our Fed Govt. doesn’t remove it as a Sch 1 narcotic.  As this article shows, many seniors are getting off their expensive medicines and using mj in lieu of them, for pain, depression, anxiety, etc.  So, follow the money.  Big Pharmaceutical Giants are starting to lose money.  Since so many in Congress are supported by these giants of industry, they fail to do the right thing.  The Opiod Crisis is reportedly taking so many lives now.  Could legalization of mj lower opiod use, as I’ve been speculating?   According to this article, opiod use has been reduced 14% in states that have legalized mj.  Anyway, I’m one staunch conservative that has at least one liberal view.  Hope you take the time to read this with an open mind.

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[baddog]

1 hour ago, Hagar said:

Most of my personal comments many of you know already, but we do have new posters, so I’ll repeat them.

I graduated in the early 60’s from high school.  Served in the Army from 65 to 67.  Right in the middle of the new drug culture.  I’ve never used mj.  Been with people who did, but I was vehemently against it, and stayed that way until about 68 years old.  I finally realized that outlawing it was useless.  Like prohibition, it’s not working, no matter how much money we throw at it.  I still don’t use it because it’s against the law in Texas.  I wonder why Texas doesn’t legalize it, and take the money out of the hands of the Cartels?  Texas prides itself on personal independence.  Less Govt.  So why not legalize it?  Perhaps for the same reason our Fed Govt. doesn’t remove it as a Sch 1 narcotic.  As this article shows, many seniors are getting off their expensive medicines and using mj in lieu of them, for pain, depression, anxiety, etc.  So, follow the money.  Big Pharmaceutical Giants are starting to lose money.  Since so many in Congress are supported by these giants of industry, they fail to do the right thing.  The Opiod Crisis is reportedly taking so many lives now.  Could legalization of mj lower opiod use, as I’ve been speculating?   According to this article, opiod use has been reduced 14% in states that have legalized mj.  Anyway, I’m one staunch conservative that has at least one liberal view.  Hope you take the time to read this with an open mind.

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Could it be that those seniors are hippies from the 60s/70s?

[Hagar]

15 minutes ago, baddog said:

Could it be that those seniors are hippies from the 60s/70s?

Lol, actually in the article, it says the folks from the 60’s had already accepted it.  Best as I cud tell, these are 55-65 year olds.

 

[baddog]

6 minutes ago, Hagar said:

Lol, actually in the article, it says the folks from the 60’s had already accepted it.  Best as I cud tell, these are 55-65 year olds.

 

I posted that without reading the article. I'll read it later on break.

[Reagan]

5 hours ago, Hagar said:

Most of my personal comments many of you know already, but we do have new posters, so I’ll repeat them.

I graduated in the early 60’s from high school.  Served in the Army from 65 to 67.  Right in the middle of the new drug culture.  I’ve never used mj.  Been with people who did, but I was vehemently against it, and stayed that way until about 68 years old.  I finally realized that outlawing it was useless.  Like prohibition, it’s not working, no matter how much money we throw at it.  I still don’t use it because it’s against the law in Texas.  I wonder why Texas doesn’t legalize it, and take the money out of the hands of the Cartels?  Texas prides itself on personal independence.  Less Govt.  So why not legalize it?  Perhaps for the same reason our Fed Govt. doesn’t remove it as a Sch 1 narcotic.  As this article shows, many seniors are getting off their expensive medicines and using mj in lieu of them, for pain, depression, anxiety, etc.  So, follow the money.  Big Pharmaceutical Giants are starting to lose money.  Since so many in Congress are supported by these giants of industry, they fail to do the right thing.  The Opiod Crisis is reportedly taking so many lives now.  Could legalization of mj lower opiod use, as I’ve been speculating?   According to this article, opiod use has been reduced 14% in states that have legalized mj.  Anyway, I’m one staunch conservative that has at least one liberal view.  Hope you take the time to read this with an open mind.

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The problem as I see it is the stoners of the 60's have reproduced and therein lies the problem!  (Grin)

[WOSdrummer99]

I've always said Texas would never fully legalize it the way Colorado an California have. Vidor just legalized the sale of alcohol in 2011. And I think there is another "dry" county in the area. Do you really think they would allow marijuana use?

[Hagar]

2 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

I've always said Texas would never fully legalize it the way Colorado an California have. Vidor just legalized the sale of alcohol in 2011. And I think there is another "dry" county in the area. Do you really think they would allow marijuana use?

As much as I’m proud of my native state, our leaders often bewilder me.  Take Horse Racing for instance.  Tx money flooded into La for years.  Tx finally gets off its duff and legalizes parimutuel wagering - to a short applause, because La up the bet (pun intended) and legalized Casino gambling.  I’d be willing to bet (that word again lol) that if Tx legalizes Casinos, La would legalize mj, leaving the Tx leaders once again scratching their collective rear ends.

[WOSdrummer99]

There was news recently about horse racing at Ford park, what a joke. Louisiana definitely has a better chance for legalization. They already have 9 dispensaries for medical patients.

[Hook'em]

I'm a conservative and I'm from the younger generation but I'm also a reason/logic/numbers guy. I personally don't use it anymore due to drug testing in the line of work I chose, but the prohibition of mj is built on false information. There are no risks of overdose, the gateway drug arguement is a joke because IMO alcohol is the greatest gateway drug out there, and I don't know of anyone that has became violent due to the use of mj whereas the use of alcohol has been attributed to domestic violence/violence in general. Might as well tax it and use the revenue to aid education and drug abuse/rehabilitation. 

[Tigers2010]

15 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

I've always said Texas would never fully legalize it the way Colorado an California have. Vidor just legalized the sale of alcohol in 2011. And I think there is another "dry" county in the area. Do you really think they would allow marijuana use?

Jasper County is dry.

[Hagar]

5 hours ago, Tigers2010 said:

Jasper County is dry.

Yep.  When I want to get decadent, I have to head to Silsbee or Vidor.  

[Tigers2010]

4 minutes ago, Hagar said:

Yep.  When I want to get decadent, I have to head to Silsbee or Vidor.  

I believe Buna passed an alcohol deal and should be selling soon, if not already. 

[Whoopi Goldberg's Lips]

Monsanto and Beyer are already looking into doing into the devil's lettuce game. Those of you that partake should start saving your seeds now because eventually you'll only be able to score GMO sticky yicky! Kinda like corn...

[LumRaiderFan]

6 hours ago, Whoopi Goldberg's Lips said:

Monsanto and Beyer are already looking into doing into the devil's lettuce game. Those of you that partake should start saving your seeds now because eventually you'll only be able to score GMO sticky yicky! Kinda like corn...

Nothing wrong with GMO.

[Whoopi Goldberg's Lips]

10 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Nothing wrong with GMO.

Ha!! that's funny

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, Whoopi Goldberg's Lips said:

Ha!! that's funny

I feel the same way about the anti GMO arguments.

[Whoopi Goldberg's Lips]

8 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I feel the same way about the anti GMO arguments.

Is there a place for it in this world? Absolutely. Should it be the only way that we grow grain, fruits, and veggies? Hell no. So while I see a valid place in the world for GMO product, the Monsantos of the world have forced us to use it whether we like it or not. I'm not down with that.

[LumRaiderFan]

29 minutes ago, Whoopi Goldberg's Lips said:

Is there a place for it in this world? Absolutely. Should it be the only way that we grow grain, fruits, and veggies? Hell no. So while I see a valid place in the world for GMO product, the Monsantos of the world have forced us to use it whether we like it or not. I'm not down with that.

There are only 10 crops that are GMO and plenty of non GMO options.

There are no ill effects of GMO crops and if we expect farmers to feed the world, we have to have GMO traits going forward.

i would suggest you go talk to some farmers to give you their take on GMO crops, the guys that actually deal with the technology.

[Whoopi Goldberg's Lips]

12 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

There are only 10 crops that are GMO and plenty of non GMO options.

There are no ill effects of GMO crops and if we expect farmers to feed the world, we have to have GMO traits going forward.

i would suggest you go talk to some farmers to give you there take on GMO crops, the guys that actually deal with the technology.

Only 10 eh? Those crops can't be un-GMO'd once we've gone past the point of no return. And that's been in our lifetime. I can't wait for our future.

But I'm expected to go talk to the farmers who deal with the product? Why would I do that? You want me to respect them, but not respect me in return?? Ok... We'll see how that works out.

All I was saying is that when I go buy my seed for my garden, I would like the opportunity to buy whatever I want... Not be forced by the man to buy what they believe is best for me.

[LumRaiderFan]

6 minutes ago, Whoopi Goldberg's Lips said:

Only 10 eh? Those crops can't be un-GMO'd once we've gone past the point of no return. And that's been in our lifetime. I can't wait for our future.

But I'm expected to go talk to the farmers who deal with the product? Why would I do that? You want me to respect them, but not respect me in return?? Ok... We'll see how that works out.

All I was saying is that when I go buy my seed for my garden, I would like the opportunity to buy whatever I want... Not be forced by the man to buy what they believe is best for me.

I was suggesting talking to the farmer as an alternative to a lot of the false information about GMOs out there that have no backing in science.

Good debate...I’m fixing to sit down and have a big helping of GMO grits.

[Whoopi Goldberg's Lips]

23 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I was suggesting talking to the farmer as an alternative to a lot of the false information about GMOs out there that have no backing in science.

Good debate...I’m fixing to sit down and have a big helping of GMO grits.

Get you some big boy! And top em off with some good, clean, Galveston Bay shrimp while you're at it!!

[Hagar]

On 1/18/2019 at 10:20 PM, Hook'em said:

I'm a conservative and I'm from the younger generation but I'm also a reason/logic/numbers guy. I personally don't use it anymore due to drug testing in the line of work I chose, but the prohibition of mj is built on false information. There are no risks of overdose, the gateway drug arguement is a joke because IMO alcohol is the greatest gateway drug out there, and I don't know of anyone that has became violent due to the use of mj whereas the use of alcohol has been attributed to domestic violence/violence in general. Might as well tax it and use the revenue to aid education and drug abuse/rehabilitation. 

I think mj was a “gateway drug” only because the dealers coerced the clients by saying they were out of mj, but had these pills.  According to the article I posted, 14% os seniors have gotten off opioids after mj was legalized.  

Speaking of legal, I have a question.  I know if you buy mj in Colorado, and get caught in Texas with it, you’ve broken the law.  My question is, if you have a prescription for it, is it legal to have in Texas?  Don’t think I’ve ever heard how that is handled.

[WOSdrummer99]

54 minutes ago, Hagar said:

I think mj was a “gateway drug” only because the dealers coerced the clients by saying they were out of mj, but had these pills.  According to the article I posted, 14% os seniors have gotten off opioids after mj was legalized.  

Speaking of legal, I have a question.  I know if you buy mj in Colorado, and get caught in Texas with it, you’ve broken the law.  My question is, if you have a prescription for it, is it legal to have in Texas?  Don’t think I’ve ever heard how that is handled.

No dealer puts a gun to customers heads and makes them decide to take a different drug.

In Texas all posession is illegal. May be decriminalized and only ticket but I can only imagine how big the fines would be. In one case, a paraphernalia fine was over $600. That was an expensive zigzag.

[Hook'em]

3 hours ago, Hagar said:

I think mj was a “gateway drug” only because the dealers coerced the clients by saying they were out of mj, but had these pills.  According to the article I posted, 14% os seniors have gotten off opioids after mj was legalized.  

Speaking of legal, I have a question.  I know if you buy mj in Colorado, and get caught in Texas with it, you’ve broken the law.  My question is, if you have a prescription for it, is it legal to have in Texas?  Don’t think I’ve ever heard how that is handled.

I am not 100% certain but I believe CBD is legal in Texas(CBD is the more medicinal part of the plant with only trace amounts of THC which is the psychoactive part of the plant that gets one "high"). From my understanding, the only way to get prescribed medical mj in Texas is if a person has violent seizures. Texas is one of the toughest states to get medical clearance from what I have read/heard. One of the biggest reasons I am for legalization of it is to take the power and money out of the criminals hands, tax it , and educate people about the medical benefits to it and also the hazards of abusing it.

[WOSdrummer99]

There are only 3 companies licensed by the state to sell CBD oil.