mat Posted April 29, 2019 Report Posted April 29, 2019 I'm rooting for the Nederland bond to pass. The recent appraisal values could be a killer. Quote
NDOMAKONG Posted April 29, 2019 Report Posted April 29, 2019 Cardinal Backer, curious if you know how NISD did in managing their previous bond... were they over / on / under budget? This will be a larger scope, but past performance is the only indicator we have for how they money will get managed. I think they have a good idea of the overall cost, There is plenty of reliable historical data for schools being built to provide a good budget. Just my thoughts. Quote
NHSBulldogFan Posted April 29, 2019 Report Posted April 29, 2019 You will never get a fiscal conservative like Klein to vote for a bond of this size. Now the security upgrades on the last bond I bet that he voted for that. Quote
navydawg31 Posted April 29, 2019 Report Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, NDOMAKONG said: Cardinal Backer, curious if you know how NISD did in managing their previous bond... were they over / on / under budget? This will be a larger scope, but past performance is the only indicator we have for how they money will get managed. I think they have a good idea of the overall cost, There is plenty of reliable historical data for schools being built to provide a good budget. Just my thoughts. I can answer for him. They came in under budget by about 1mil. CardinalBacker and NHSBulldogFan 2 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted April 30, 2019 Report Posted April 30, 2019 8 hours ago, NDOMAKONG said: Cardinal Backer, curious if you know how NISD did in managing their previous bond... were they over / on / under budget? This will be a larger scope, but past performance is the only indicator we have for how they money will get managed. I think they have a good idea of the overall cost, There is plenty of reliable historical data for schools being built to provide a good budget. Just my thoughts. No, I do not know. Quote
Reagan Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 One cannot run and hide from the fact that $156,000,000 is a massive amount of debt. And like I mentioned before -- kids in school now, if they stay in Nederland, will be paying dept service on this $156,000,000 when they become adults! Astonishing! Quote
Bigdog Posted May 1, 2019 Author Report Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Reagan said: One cannot run and hide from the fact that $156,000,000 is a massive amount of debt. And like I mentioned before -- kids in school now, if they stay in Nederland, will be paying dept service on this $156,000,000 when they become adults! Astonishing! How long is your house note? Razor 1 Quote
Razor Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 Using Reagan's rationale, you would never buy anything that you had to pay over any length of time...is it expensive?? yes...is it going to get any less expensive? No...you can only put lipstick on a pig for so long and IMO, continuing to spend maintenance budget money on old, outdated facilities is a waste of money as well...NISD's maintenance budget has been rather substantial in years past...again, its a difference in philosophy Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 15 hours ago, Reagan said: One cannot run and hide from the fact that $156,000,000 is a massive amount of debt. And like I mentioned before -- kids in school now, if they stay in Nederland, will be paying dept service on this $156,000,000 when they become adults! Astonishing! And if they move away, they will be paying for some other bond as well. Cant escape having to pay taxes. mat 1 Quote
A BUC 77 Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 I voted yesterday evening. Waited in line over 30 minutes. prepballfan 1 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, A BUC 77 said: I voted yesterday evening. Waited in line over 30 minutes. That’s not a good sign for the yes votes, IMO. Typically people don’t go stand in long lines to pay higher taxes. But they absolutely will stand in line if it means their taxes will remain low. Just an observation. Reagan and KF89 2 Quote
A BUC 77 Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 4 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: That’s not a good sign for the yes votes, IMO. Typically people don’t go stand in long lines to pay higher taxes. But they absolutely will stand in line if it means their taxes will remain low. Just an observation. I think people will stand in line for a better, safer and more up to date NISD. I didn't ask anyone on there views. It was a mix crowd old and young. But that is good. We will get an answer Saturday night. Michele 1 Quote
Michele Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 15 hours ago, A BUC 77 said: I think people will stand in line for a better, safer and more up to date NISD. I didn't ask anyone on there views. It was a mix crowd old and young. But that is good. We will get an answer Saturday night. I think your right, when I went to vote the line was out of the door and that was BEFORE the new tax assessment notifications were received in the mail. I still have a very positive feeling this bond is passing! Quote
prepballfan Posted May 3, 2019 Report Posted May 3, 2019 Tomorrow night we will know CardinalBacker 1 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted May 3, 2019 Report Posted May 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, prepballfan said: Tomorrow night we will know I kinda hope that IF it fails, they come back with a more reasonable proposal. prepballfan 1 Quote
Reagan Posted May 3, 2019 Report Posted May 3, 2019 The bond in its present form, wanting to demolish the newest school, is akin to someone personally saying: Well, my house needs a new roof and I want security installed. And my first thought is to demolish the house and build a new one on its spot. Sure, you'll get a new roof and a security system. But man, the cost!! I guess one could justify it, like this bond, by saying -- it makes sense to do this now because later on down the road it'll cost so much more to do this. I guess it makes it alright if someone else is paying for it. Right!!?? But think about it -- NO ONE in their right mind would personally think like this!! Quote
prepballfan Posted May 3, 2019 Report Posted May 3, 2019 I hope whatever happens Nederland can either work out something more suitable to everyone or be as transparent as deserved by the community so everyone can be as comfortable as it is possible to be. This does not need to split the community. I hope it serves to strengthen it somehow. CardinalBacker 1 Quote
MMosley07 Posted May 4, 2019 Report Posted May 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Reagan said: The bond in its present form, wanting to demolish the newest school, is akin to someone personally saying: Well, my house needs a new roof and I want security installed. And my first thought is to demolish the house and build a new one on its spot. Sure, you'll get a new roof and a security system. But man, the cost!! I guess one could justify it, like this bond, by saying -- it makes sense to do this now because later on down the road it'll cost so much more to do this. I guess it makes it alright if someone else is paying for it. Right!!?? But think about it -- NO ONE in their right mind would personally think like this!! No. That’s not what the bond proposal is similar to. Quote
Reagan Posted May 4, 2019 Report Posted May 4, 2019 3 hours ago, MMosley07 said: No. That’s not what the bond proposal is similar to. Actually it is! The demolishing of the newest school in the system is the same thing! But, come the 4th, we'll see if the taxpayers are buying it! Quote
PhatMack19 Posted May 5, 2019 Report Posted May 5, 2019 Word on the street is that both bonds passed prepballfan 1 Quote
The Icon Posted May 5, 2019 Report Posted May 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said: Word on the street is that both bonds passed Good for Nederland ISD Cant lose when you do what’s best for kids WOSdrummer99, NHSBulldogFan and prepballfan 3 Quote
PhatMack19 Posted May 5, 2019 Report Posted May 5, 2019 2514 for 1000 something against. People started screaming so I couldn’t hear the number prepballfan 1 Quote
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PhatMack19 Posted May 5, 2019 Report Posted May 5, 2019 Surprisingly more voted for turf BREAKING NEWS: Nederland Bond issue passes. Both propositions passed: Prop A (New school and improvements) 2,514 - For - 63.28% 1,459 - Against - 36.72% Prop B (New stadium turf and improvements) 2,548 - For - 64.26% 1,417 Against - 35.74% NHSBulldogFan 1 Quote
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