Argyle Sports Question

[BADSANTA]

How can a town of 3200 have so much talent to compete at the 4A Level in all sports? Are these kids being pulled in from somewhere else? Job move in kids? Every state football, boys basketball good, and girls basketball. Maybe baseball and soft ball as well. What am I missing here? 

[whsalum]

The girls have won 5 consecutive state titles, 4 of them after moving up from 3A to 4A

[Tiger33]

2 hours ago, BADSANTA said:

How can a town of 3200 have so much talent to compete at the 4A Level in all sports? Are these kids being pulled in from somewhere else? Job move in kids? Every state football, boys basketball good, and girls basketball. Maybe baseball and soft ball as well. What am I missing here? 

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[BADSANTA]

I guess is there a factory, manufacturing planet, gas, energy, or what is the main market to influence such talent? 

[Tiger33]

5 minutes ago, BADSANTA said:

I guess is there a factory, manufacturing planet, gas, energy, or what is the main market to influence such talent? 

Arygle is more of a suburb. Im sure everyone drives into the dfw to work. Look at there housing market its expensive to live there. Some years ago I looked into the real-estate in argyle and its just not worth driving back and forth for me.  Two years ago I wanted to see what Aledo looked like so I dove over there to look around. Well I can tell you this Orange has more business than they do. Pretty much new houses going up but you would have to drive into work every day theres not much there at all.

[Who That]

$$$$$$ Town of Dallas 

[no-look]

Over 850 kids don’t hurt.   But I get what your saying. They seem to be in the mix every year. Tradition, coaching and expectations?  

[no-look]

2 hours ago, BADSANTA said:

How can a town of 3200 have so much talent to compete at the 4A Level in all sports? Are these kids being pulled in from somewhere else? Job move in kids? Every state football, boys basketball good, and girls basketball. Maybe baseball and soft ball as well. What am I missing here? 

People probably say the same about Silsbee. Like how can a 4A school have three D1 players on the same team. Lol

[Tiger33]

5 minutes ago, no-look said:

People probably say the same about Silsbee. Like how can a 4A school have three D1 players on the same team. Lol

I would never compare argyle to Silsbee lol Silsbee don't get me wrong has had some bball teams. Maybe some Kountze kids transferred over

[AggiesAreWe]

6 minutes ago, no-look said:

People probably say the same about Silsbee. Like how can a 4A school have three D1 players on the same team. Lol

If you add some of the football players (Tyler, Jones, Barnes, M. McCain, etc) Silsbee has had several next level players on their basketball team the last few years.

[no-look]

Anyone remember Cayuga a few years back. Had 4 or 5 D1 players that played football and basketball. Had a back that went to Texas. They were 1A I think. 

[BADSANTA]

Yeah the house are all close to $300k and up. 

[About a week ago]

Argyle, Aledo, Brock, and Lipan seem to year after year win consistently. Brock addds football and wins a state title one year later. Argyle and Aledo seem yo to win on everything they do. I don’t know the real reason why, but they have expectations year after year and they seem to work relentless to fulfill them.

[DXTR]

3 hours ago, BADSANTA said:

I guess is there a factory, manufacturing planet, gas, energy, or what is the main market to influence such talent? 

Maybe they have a good communications program. 

[CallisburgWildcat]

Its a really good suburb.  Denton to the North, Fort worth to the South, Dallas to the southeast.  Lewisville and Flower Mound close by.

[stevenash]

14 hours ago, DXTR said:

Maybe they have a good communications program. 

Excellent post!!!!!!!

[oldschool2]

I know there are exceptions... but money always plays a part.  

Student A (6'4 220) - Both parents work, unlimited support, never misses a meal, year-round personal trainer, access to any academic tutor money can buy, summer speed/strength/agility camps every summer, access to a nutritionist... etc.

Student B (6'4 220) - let's just say struggles..financially, probably works during the summer, doesn't eat very healthily, poor performance in school because of sleep habits, stays after and lifts weights with a friend when he has a ride... etc.

Again.. I KNOW there are exceptions. But if you don't think that ^^^ happens and plays a part then you're naive. 

The scenario I game above is the difference between a scholarship and not.  Also could be the difference between a state championship and not.  Imagine a team full of kids in the same situation.  Either situation. 

[no-look]

Hard working players with some talent that buy in and are well coached is a good combination at any school. 

[oldschool2]

1 hour ago, no-look said:

Hard working players with some talent that buy in and are well coached is a good combination at any school. 

There are hard working players with some talent that buy in all over the state...that are also well coached.  You honestly think that the small handful of teams that win state titles are the only ones that do that? 

[whsalum]

Once you start being successful as a program the number of kids transferring into a district always increases. When you're successful in a district where the average home is $300k you're gonna have new faces "&

[BADSANTA]

Argyle recruiting is someone a D1 school would look up to lmao! 

[no-look]

6 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

There are hard working players with some talent that buy in all over the state...that are also well coached.  You honestly think that the small handful of teams that win state titles are the only ones that do that? 

Nope. Do you? 

[oldschool2]

9 hours ago, no-look said:

Nope. Do you? 

Of course not.  That's kind of the point I'm making... there are hard-working kids, with some talent, that buy-in, and are well coached at lots and lots of schools. Very few schools are doing what Argyle is doing.  

[Coach.Shu]

20 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

I know there are exceptions... but money always plays a part.  

Student A (6'4 220) - Both parents work, unlimited support, never misses a meal, year-round personal trainer, access to any academic tutor money can buy, summer speed/strength/agility camps every summer, access to a nutritionist... etc.

Student B (6'4 220) - let's just say struggles..financially, probably works during the summer, doesn't eat very healthily, poor performance in school because of sleep habits, stays after and lifts weights with a friend when he has a ride... etc.

Again.. I KNOW there are exceptions. But if you don't think that ^^^ happens and plays a part then you're naive. 

The scenario I game above is the difference between a scholarship and not.  Also could be the difference between a state championship and not.  Imagine a team full of kids in the same situation.  Either situation. 

oldschool2 - you should read "The Miracle of St Anthony" by Adrian Wojnarowski...   Good read and has a lot of thought on this very topic!  I agree with your idea here for the most part - but the exceptions are so much more interesting...

I have always preferred to work with the "student B" from this comparison - that kid is usually a little tougher and wants it a little bit more...

[oldschool2]

17 minutes ago, Coach.Shu said:

oldschool2 - you should read "The Miracle of St Anthony" by Adrian Wojnarowski...   Good read and has a lot of thought on this very topic!  I agree with your idea here for the most part - but the exceptions are so much more interesting...

I have always preferred to work with the "student B" from this comparison - that kid is usually a little tougher and wants it a little bit more...

I agree that student B would probably be tougher.  There are some really hard cases all over this country/world where kids have it a lot worse than that ^.. yet they still endure.  Toughness doesn't always equate to success.  Not in sports anyway.  You can be tough and have a great life and become a fantastic human being.  We're not talking about that though.  We're talking about the continued, constant success of Argyle and schools like it.  They probably have a lot more "student A" than they do "student B". 

There are hundreds and thousands of examples of "student B" that can be given of a kid that physically fit the criteria but never made it because they never had much of a chance from the start.