Faith Family vs Yates

[Coach.Shu]

10 minutes ago, Who That said:

 

Here is a good look at Faith Family 

yates by 20+

[TxHoops]

I am pulling for Yates but I’ve had a feeling the Region 2 team would be the team to beat due to being so battle tested.  I hope I’m wrong and the Lions wear them down like they have almost all teams they’ve faced.   I do think this should be the de facto championship game.  Decatur has the ability to slow the game down and maybe hang around and pull off an upset in a low scoring affair.  But I think either of these teams losing to the winner of the other semi-final would be a considerable upset. 

[BmtPanther34]

Faith Family in the UIL state tournament is a joke.  The head coach was the head coach at Cedar Hill and FF offered him 6 figures to come over and allowed him to bring his whole staff.  Guess what...Cedar Hill players followed.  This is why you havent heard from Cedar Hill lately.  It is fitting that FF and Yates have to play each other and a sign of the sad sad state of UIL basketball.  And that is before you get to Madison being in the 3A tournament which is an even bigger joke.  HISD and DISD use their open enrollment status and “magnet programs” to manipulate their enrollments.  FF has about 200 kids in the school.....but 10 of them just happen to be good enough to get to the 4A state tournament?  Please.  It is becoming a joke what all is allowed and a shame.  It is ruining high school basketball.

[ST413]

21 minutes ago, BmtPanther34 said:

Faith Family in the UIL state tournament is a joke.  The head coach was the head coach at Cedar Hill and FF offered him 6 figures to come over and allowed him to bring his whole staff.  Guess what...Cedar Hill players followed.  This is why you havent heard from Cedar Hill lately.  It is fitting that FF and Yates have to play each other and a sign of the sad sad state of UIL basketball.  And that is before you get to Madison being in the 3A tournament which is an even bigger joke.  HISD and DISD use their open enrollment status and “magnet programs” to manipulate their enrollments.  FF has about 200 kids in the school.....but 10 of them just happen to be good enough to get to the 4A state tournament?  Please.  It is becoming a joke what all is allowed and a shame.  It is ruining high school basketball.

I think many of us have stated pretty much the same views over the past several years.  Even though my Tigers have been the standard the last few years, I still have fealt that overall a school such  as Silsbee having to compete with some of these big city “small” schools is not quite an equal playing field.

[TxHoops]

28 minutes ago, BmtPanther34 said:

Faith Family in the UIL state tournament is a joke.  The head coach was the head coach at Cedar Hill and FF offered him 6 figures to come over and allowed him to bring his whole staff.  Guess what...Cedar Hill players followed.  This is why you havent heard from Cedar Hill lately.  It is fitting that FF and Yates have to play each other and a sign of the sad sad state of UIL basketball.  And that is before you get to Madison being in the 3A tournament which is an even bigger joke.  HISD and DISD use their open enrollment status and “magnet programs” to manipulate their enrollments.  FF has about 200 kids in the school.....but 10 of them just happen to be good enough to get to the 4A state tournament?  Please.  It is becoming a joke what all is allowed and a shame.  It is ruining high school basketball.

I am not a fan of charter schools for reasons that go way beyond basketball.  There are a myriad of ways in which they are hurting public education.  I would say that when the highest ranking official in education in our country is an extremely vocal advocate for these charter schools, it’s not likely to change any time soon.  

But that’s a different discussion for a different board.   Your point is a good one and well taken. 

[BADSANTA]

When I seen the name pop up in the TABC rankings, I knew something was fishy. I thought Deion Sanders had a new school like Prime Prep. I didnt know they would be a le to play in the UIL. Everyone remembers a few years ago when Mark Cuban hand selected an AAU team to play at Bridgeport. 4A is a middle ground I guess. A charter school of 200 has no reason playing in a 4A UIL tourney. They are like a junior college with all the recruiting. I actually hope Yates win to keep the title in Region 3 and shut down the nonsense in Dallas. Yates should combine with Kashmere and go to 5A. 

[BADSANTA]

There is a time in the future where Silsbee could be 3A I heard. 

[Tigers94]

Cedar Hill Trinity Christian is Deion's school. They had a kid all the way from Massachusetts playing on their football team.

Faith Family should have to play in 6A, just like Strake Jesuit does.

[yepyep]

21 hours ago, TxHoops said:

I am pulling for Yates but I’ve had a feeling the Region 2 team would be the team to beat due to being so battle tested.  I hope I’m wrong and the Lions wear them down like they have almost all teams they’ve faced.   I do think this should be the de facto championship game.  Decatur has the ability to slow the game down and maybe hang around and pull off an upset in a low scoring affair.  But I think either of these teams losing to the winner of the other semi-final would be a considerable upset. 

I think Decatur might surprise some people and it might not be as big of an upset as some think if they win it all. They have some length, play very solid defense and are well coached. Similar to Argyle teams of the past. But one difference is I think they will push the ball and look for easy baskets more in transition than your typical walk it up the court and run your half court sets. Yates/FF May negate that though. Should be interesting.

[TxHoops]

1 hour ago, yepyep said:

I think Decatur might surprise some people and it might not be as big of an upset as some think if they win it all. They have some length, play very solid defense and are well coached. Similar to Argyle teams of the past. But one difference is I think they will push the ball and look for easy baskets more in transition than your typical walk it up the court and run your half court sets. Yates/FF May negate that though. Should be interesting.

That’s what I’ve heard (similar to Argyle).  When those type teams take care of the ball and control tempo, tends to really frustrate teams that like to run and gun.  

[bball27]

Who can forget Triple A academy a few years back with 5 division 1 kids playing in the 1A division.  Stole a state title from Mumford.  

[whsalum]

And got boo'd in the process. Never saw that before 

[ST413]

9 hours ago, TxHoops said:

That’s what I’ve heard (similar to Argyle).  When those type teams take care of the ball and control tempo, tends to really frustrate teams that like to run and gun.  

True.  You cant argue with their success.  One thing i have always felt  is that style also leads to closer games with teams that you may be better than as well, leaving the possibility of a defeat.  I guess what i am saying is they arent normally going to run away from good teams and get a big lead.  Whereas a team that plays like we do does just that many times.  The question is of course which suits your team better and which style do you have more confidence in.  

[TxHoops]

1 hour ago, ST413 said:

True.  You cant argue with their success.  One thing i have always felt  is that style also leads to closer games with teams that you may be better than as well, leaving the possibility of a defeat.  I guess what i am saying is they arent normally going to run away from good teams and get a big lead.  Whereas a team that plays like we do does just that many times.  The question is of course which suits your team better and which style do you have more confidence in.  

Exactly.  Keep the game low scoring and give yourself a puncher’s chance.  You’re may not be able to run away from more athletic teams but you can hit a shot at the end to upset them.  

[ST413]

18 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Exactly.  Keep the game low scoring and give yourself a puncher’s chance.  You’re may not be able to run away from more athletic teams but you can hit a shot at the end to upset them.  

Yes but you can also give the other team the same shot is what i am getting at.  

[TxHoops]

17 minutes ago, ST413 said:

Yes but you can also give the other team the same shot is what i am getting at.  

When you can’t run with them, it’s easily your best chance at winning.  

[JimThorpe]

Yates is a good team but they are here because Silsbee self destructed in the second half last Saturday.  Oak Cliff is a tested team and have played a much tougher schedule and a postseason that's arguably tougher as well.  The middle is not going to be porous like it was against the Tigers so outside shooting will be critical.  If they are shooting well it's still no guarantee but if they aren't they won't win. 

It's a "career" magnet school (please, I may have been born at night, but not last night!)  against a "charter" school.  I tend to go with the lesser of two evils which is Yates.  But then I'll be pulling for the winner of the Decatur - Liberty Hill game in the final because those schools are from towns.  And 4A schools should be from towns.  One high school districts.  You know?  Like Sour Lake or Bridge City or Lumberton or even Silsbee.

[DeePotts3]

They have t faced anyone that will apply pressure all 32 minutes 

32 minutes ago, JimThorpe said:

Yates is a good team but they are here because Silsbee self destructed in the second half last Saturday.  Oak Cliff is a tested team and have played a much tougher schedule and a postseason that's arguably tougher as well.  The middle is not going to be porous like it was against the Tigers so outside shooting will be critical.  If they are shooting well it's still no guarantee but if they aren't they won't win. 

It's a "career" magnet school (please, I may have been born at night, but not last night!)  against a "charter" school.  I tend to go with the lesser of two evils which is Yates.  But then I'll be pulling for the winner of the Decatur - Liberty Hill game in the final because those schools are from towns.  And 4A schools should be from towns.  One high school districts.  You know?  Like Sour Lake or Bridge City or Lumberton or even Silsbee.

 

[bayou city 713]

5 hours ago, JimThorpe said:

Yates is a good team but they are here because Silsbee self destructed in the second half last Saturday.  Oak Cliff is a tested team and have played a much tougher schedule and a postseason that's arguably tougher as well.  The middle is not going to be porous like it was against the Tigers so outside shooting will be critical.  If they are shooting well it's still no guarantee but if they aren't they won't win. 

It's a "career" magnet school (please, I may have been born at night, but not last night!)  against a "charter" school.  I tend to go with the lesser of two evils which is Yates.  But then I'll be pulling for the winner of the Decatur - Liberty Hill game in the final because those schools are from towns.  And 4A schools should be from towns.  One high school districts.  You know?  Like Sour Lake or Bridge City or Lumberton or even Silsbee.

Ummmh the same could be said for  the yates vs silsbee game last year .. yates was up for most of the game last year with their best player being restricted. 

And yates played in a national tournament they beat powerhouse Christ the king out of New York. They broke a record in that tournament for points being scored.They also beat a powerhouse school out of St. Louis.

And the argument for inner city  public schools goes both ways. A lot of kids that are zoned to yates , Wheatley , kashmere etc.. don’t go there. A lot of the elite players that are zoned to those schools attend charter , home and private schools. That’s why those schools are now better than the public schools. 

 

 

[Who That]

Who ever wins this game . WILL destroy the winners of this first game..

[yepyep]

24 minutes ago, Who That said:

Who ever wins this game . WILL destroy the winners of this first game..

You seem confident it will be a blowout. So set the line and give me Decatur and the points.

No go on Liberty Hill.

 

It’s funny how these slow, unathleitc, half court teams like Brock, Ponder, and Argyle don’t look the part yet seem to keep winning championships.  

Decatur will give Yates/FF a game. I will be shocked if they don’t.

[AggiesAreWe]

54 minutes ago, Who That said:

Who ever wins this game . WILL destroy the winners of this first game..

FYI, Decatur beat Odessa Permian who beat Faith Family by 10. Just saying.

[yepyep]

58 minutes ago, yepyep said:

You seem confident it will be a blowout. So set the line and give me Decatur and the points.

No go on Liberty Hill.

 

It’s funny how these slow, unathleitc, half court teams like Brock, Ponder, and Argyle don’t look the part yet seem to keep winning championships.  

Decatur will give Yates/FF a game. I will be shocked if they don’t.

Welp Decatur didn’t do their part. Ugly game. Good luck to the remaining teams.

[Kountzer]

13 hours ago, bayou city 713 said:

Ummmh the same could be said for  the yates vs silsbee game last year .. yates was up for most of the game last year with their best player being restricted. 

And yates played in a national tournament they beat powerhouse Christ the king out of New York. They broke a record in that tournament for points being scored.They also beat a powerhouse school out of St. Louis.

And the argument for inner city  public schools goes both ways. A lot of kids that are zoned to yates , Wheatley , kashmere etc.. don’t go there. A lot of the elite players that are zoned to those schools attend charter , home and private schools. That’s why those schools are now better than the public schools. 

 

 

Thanks Faith Family.

[bayou city 713]

20 minutes ago, Kountzer said:

Thanks Faith Family.

Great season yates y’all will be back and better  next year ...let’s go stangs!!!