baseballer17 Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 truefully theres no way a coach can lose a game 20-0, they players were not ready for the game and made to many errors, also dont take credit from nederland they hit the ball well
Bigdog Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 I never said that it was Greens fault. But can you look at the state of Vidor's athletics and not say that a change is needed?
ESPN Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 I really honestly don't think a change would help? They've had good coaches there before and the same stuff happens. I've even had a Coach from there tell me that.
espn2 Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 I don't mean to be rude. But someone said this program has been turned around. Vidor (11-12) (3-6), And I don't think this includes the loss to the JV. Vidor people please don't jump on me, but lets say turning it around.
ESPN Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 Your right. The problem i had was them putting the blame on the Coach. It's not the Coach trust me.
bignedfan Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 First of all i think BIGDOG and ESPN2 (I know who you are ESPN2)...need to SHUTUP. .....Typical .....you dads think it is so freakin easy to coach then I think you need to get quit your day job and get a Coaching job....and I don't mean LITTLE LEAGUE........I am so SICK of all ya'lls RUDE opinions.......if Coach Green would've had a winning season.....then of course he would be the BEST coach ever.....ya'll are such JERKS......ya'll think is just so dang easy.....YOU DON'T HAVE a CLUE what goes into coaching a varsity team.......Coach Robbins don't have to coach, Coach Stone don't have to coach....those kids coach theirselves....they have dang good players....they have played the game since they were 5. Typical Nederland....if ya'll were not doing so well....i PROMISE coach robbins would be catching hell. I think before ya'll post rude replies about a coach......you need to put the shoe on the other foot. How can you blame the coach.....also....about daddy's popping off about how he should've played his JV.......if you new anything about coaching....you wouldn't say crap like that.........also what you like for Coach Green to do......go out there and catch the balls for him....go out there and pitch for him......please SHUTUP about Coach Green....and bashing any coach. YA'LL don't have a clue..........
bignedfan Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 Oh.....another thing.....what was your opinion...about Coach Green and Vidor when they beat PNG and almost beat Nederland.....huh? Did Coach Green and Vidor suck then....huh? I know we Nederland fans were sweating it big time!!!
Bigdog Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 The first thing bignedfan, before you pop off, you should read my post. I didn't say that if was Green's fault, I put the fault on the AD. And your comment about the kids at Ned and PNG coaching themselves, isn't that a shot at the Vidor kids? I know coach Robbins, he has a lot of experience having played for Ned and in college. He is a very good coach and it shows. I know Coach Green is from Ned but I don't know him personally. The things he has to put up with at Vidor fall on the AD. That is where I'm suggesting a change and maybe all the athletics will turn around. They are not right now. Finally, you will not make personal attacks on people on this board.
jdawg03 Posted April 23, 2006 Author Report Posted April 23, 2006 Lets all chill out here.... we can agree and disagree without name calling and personal threats..... Please, lets act like were not in junior high.......
bigred75 Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 I think that is impossible for some.....their IQ wont let them
Guest bleed orange Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 This is really killing me, but bigred you are right again. Parents back in my day said nothing. They let the coaches and the teachers do their job. LET THEM. I don't know the answer to Vidors situation but I can tell you it is not the AD. If I was him, I would say screw yall, I am going to get a job where I can make some real money. The teachers should do the same. I am not just picking on Vidor, I think all teachers and coaches from every school should do the samething. Then let the parents do the coaching and teaching and see what they go through.
batterup Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 I don't think it is anyone's place here to evaluate the Vidor program and determine whether a new coach or AD is in order. I thought coach bashing was not allowed on this site. IMO-this entire thread should be deleted, we are talking about people's careers. Bigdog-no disrespect, but on all of your post you have the statement that Nederland has been in the play-offs 10 years consecutively? Is that in baseball? Does that include the year they had to have a play-off for the number three spot in district with Ozen? What was the outcome of that match-up?
MIF04 Posted April 24, 2006 Report Posted April 24, 2006 Some random thoughts: 1. Vidor has not turned it around. That has little to do with the coach and more to do with (a) the talented district they are in and ( the level of talent at VHS. 2. Blaming a 20-0 loss on a coach ignores a simple fact -- talent, or lack thereof. 3. The comments about the PNG and Nederland programs are out of line. They are good programs (from you on up) but you still need a quality HS coach at that level. 4. Hopefully, Green can 'cut some deals' and get some of his guys named All-District at the meeting. Bottom line, the program won't get better without better players. Simple as that. And before the Vidor folks reply that I am Vidor bashing, that's not true. I'd be just as happy if they were 12-0 or 0-12....but this shoe fits....
PiratePride22 Posted April 24, 2006 Report Posted April 24, 2006 You couldn't be more wrong MIF04. The talent is there, it's just executing that seems to be Vidor's problem. The first inning of the Nederland game started out with an error that caused a chain reaction for the rest of the game. It set the tempo that Vidor was never able to recover from. And that is one of Vidor's major problems. So when you say Vidor's problem is not having the necassary talent it's just not the case. I think I might know a little more on the subject than you.
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