SteelerCzy Posted June 20, 2007 Report Posted June 20, 2007 WB JV will be better than any other 3a team in SETX??? It seems lik someone is trying to get on the new ESPN commercials about talking sports out of their @$%!!!Great quote.
East TX Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 Sounds like we need an early season tournament which would include say: Nederland, PNG, WB, Bridge City, Jasper and Silsbee--to settle this blind speculation. We could likewise have a like team JV Tournament at another location at the same time.
besbolbenbedygud Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 That would be a great event but......JMO........Brook would be playing down and not benefit from it......even if they lost every game....it would not be any help for preparing them for district.........A good Jasper, a good BC, and a good Silsbee are still not Kingwood......the only way any of these games could be seen as meaning anything is if they were all in a district race......or everyone threw their one or two when they played.......(back when area teams played in all or one area tournament) I might be wrong but I don't remember the '92 BC team winning an area tournament that year (I know they didn't win all three) PN-G won the Nederland tourney and Nederland won the WO-S tourney I don't remember who won the PN-G tourney(could have been BC) but I do know BC went to the State Finals that year....... no doubt they were the better team when it counted.......
Hupernikomen Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 That would be a great event but......JMO........Brook would be playing down and not benefit from it......even if they lost every game....it would not be any help for preparing them for district.........A good Jasper, a good BC, and a good Silsbee are still not Kingwood......the only way any of these games could be seen as meaning anything is if they were all in a district race......or everyone threw their one or two when they played.......(back when area teams played in all or one area tournament) I might be wrong but I don't remember the '92 BC team winning an area tournament that year (I know they didn't win all three) PN-G won the Nederland tourney and Nederland won the WO-S tourney I don't remember who won the PN-G tourney(could have been BC) but I do know BC went to the State Finals that year....... no doubt they were the better team when it counted.......You are right WB would gain nothing from playing a tournament with the local 3A and 4A teams. I believe BC and Jasper could give them a solid game with their aces on the mound, but good 5A ball is another level of competition.
homer321 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 What about this year when WB cruised in the scrimmage and won 33 to 0!!!!!! Is that what you were talking about utguy?
davidortizfan Posted July 4, 2007 Report Posted July 4, 2007 jon chk chk gunn.. yeah, lcm will be solid next year. a very tough team to beat..
East TX Posted July 4, 2007 Report Posted July 4, 2007 I am having a lot of trouble following some of the reasoning. It would seem to me that if WB could easily end up in the middle of the pack in a tournament playing Silsbee., BC, Ned, Jasper, PNG, & LCM: HOW COULD THAT HURT THEM, EXCEPT THEIR 5A PRIDE?Yes, these teams are not Kingwood but if you can't beat them? what/how does the "Kingwood" references on here really matter?I would like to see a big tournament which also included Lake Charles-Barbe and Sulphur, LA. in the heap.If BROOK can't cut it in this type competition--then they need to know it as soon as possible!
ALLABOUTSTATE4BC09 Posted July 5, 2007 Report Posted July 5, 2007 I am having a lot of trouble following some of the reasoning. It would seem to me that if WB could easily end up in the middle of the pack in a tournament playing Silsbee., BC, Ned, Jasper, PNG, & LCM: HOW COULD THAT HURT THEM, EXCEPT THEIR 5A PRIDE?Yes, these teams are not Kingwood but if you can't beat them? what/how does the "Kingwood" references on here really matter?I would like to see a big tournament which also included Lake Charles-Barbe and Sulphur, LA. in the heap.If BROOK can't cut it in this type competition--then they need to know it as soon as possible!Yeah I'd like to see that! at lest for some local bragging rights! Bridge City, LCM, Lumberton, vidor, Jasper,sulphur, Barbe, Nederland, westbrook, central, silsbee and Buna just to see what they could do.....
Guest Orangeboy Posted July 5, 2007 Report Posted July 5, 2007 Yeah I'd like to see that! at lest for some local bragging rights! Bridge City, LCM, Lumberton, vidor, Jasper,sulphur, Barbe, Nederland, westbrook, central, silsbee and Buna just to see what they could do.....I would also like to see teams such as Barbers Hill and Huffman just to get some more quality teams involved.
ALLABOUTSTATE4BC09 Posted July 5, 2007 Report Posted July 5, 2007 I would also like to see teams such as Barbers Hill and Huffman just to get some more quality teams involved.Yeah forgot about Barbers Hill.... these coaches need to start planning this it'd be the best thing that's ever happened to setx high school baseball!! and to make it sweeter the winner of the tournament get's an automatic playoff bid.....lol
Guest Orangeboy Posted July 5, 2007 Report Posted July 5, 2007 Many coaches now adays do not want to face district opponents in predistrict. Don't really understand why that has changed so much within the last 10 years but it has.
Guest AISD Posted July 5, 2007 Report Posted July 5, 2007 Buna lost 3 starters, but they will be back stronger next year
East TX Posted July 5, 2007 Report Posted July 5, 2007 To Orangeboy: A tournament of this nature with a large amount of quality teams is skewed to place all teams involved-- as playing teams of other classifications and districts at the first two or three bottom layers of the tiers of the tournament play.It would be quite unlikely that teams reaching the tops of the brackets would meet District foes.Remember even if that happened, most top-flight pitching is spent at that point and the games would not even be similar to when they meet later in district competitive action.I think a Thursday, Friday, Saturday tournament at Lamar stadium would get more people interested in deep SE TX area quality HS baseball. More fans following these teams would enhance the whole BB thrust for our area!
BUNA95 Posted July 6, 2007 Report Posted July 6, 2007 Buna lost 3 starters, but they will be back stronger next yearWe will do well next year.
Guest Orangeboy Posted July 6, 2007 Report Posted July 6, 2007 To Orangeboy: A tournament of this nature with a large amount of quality teams is skewed to place all teams involved-- as playing teams of other classifications and districts at the first two or three bottom layers of the tiers of the tournament play.It would be quite unlikely that teams reaching the tops of the brackets would meet District foes.Remember even if that happened, most top-flight pitching is spent at that point and the games would not even be similar to when they meet later in district competitive action.I think a Thursday, Friday, Saturday tournament at Lamar stadium would get more people interested in deep SE TX area quality HS baseball. More fans following these teams would enhance the whole BB thrust for our area!I understand that, and would like to see something like this happen.
ALLABOUTSTATE4BC09 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 Ill second that...thsoe games would have to be running from 8:00 in the morning to like 9:00 though..lol maybe im wrong though.....
East TX Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 The magnitude of the number of teams just might entail using Lamar's stadium plus say Nederland, PNG and maybe another.IT COULD BE DONE!
East TX Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 I studied the size of this thing and it might be better it Huffman, Barbers Hill and the other schools in the Baytown area get together in a like Tournament over there a little east of Houston. I am afraid that the Golden Triangle will pretty well fill up a big local Tournament.I am sure it would not be hard for the Baytown area to also put together an ace tournament. It could be a one game winners tournament between the winner on the Baytown area and the Golden Triangle area could take place as the grand finale. ;D
play-ball!! Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 im going with PNG being up there at the top of next year they lost 2 senior starters that means the rest of the team is coming back they will have a strong pitching staff eric harrington and jerin spikes being there aces and they also have some strong relief pitching if they need it there defense will be solid C-Carnahan 1B-spikes 2B-garcia 3B-beniot SS-harrington LF-?? CF-raynga RF-?? all returning starters except RF LF the only place they might struggle is hitting
besbolbenbedygud Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 I am having a lot of trouble following some of the reasoning. It would seem to me that if WB could easily end up in the middle of the pack in a tournament playing Silsbee., BC, Ned, Jasper, PNG, & LCM: HOW COULD THAT HURT THEM, EXCEPT THEIR 5A PRIDE?Yes, these teams are not Kingwood but if you can't beat them? what/how does the "Kingwood" references on here really matter?I would like to see a big tournament which also included Lake Charles-Barbe and Sulphur, LA. in the heap.If BROOK can't cut it in this type competition--then they need to know it as soon as possible!Preseason tourney's (not scrimmages)......would you not like the competition to be against teams you are preparing to play in district or better.........or do you set it up against teams you think you have a better chance of getting wins against?? Grant it the talent pool has been drained at West Brook from '05 to last year......yet that does not change who their district foes are or what the ultimate reason for putting on the uniform is for.......everyone wants to be where Jasper is right now..........being put in an area tourney would not be the right step for West Brook to take...Point blank!!....It would be better to struggle against the competition level you are set to play at then play down and struggle......you would lose the reality of where you are trying to get........ West Brook is not trying to be the best in Southeast Texas........they are trying to be the best "5a" team in the state!!!!!!! so, what would be great for Southeast Texas would not be great for West Brook high school.....
besbolbenbedygud Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 ;D funny..........I think it's under those red feathers to the left of your screen......lol ;D.....or it could be the "van down by the river"........lolSeriously.......research question......Pick any other 21-5a team (excluding PAM) and look at their preseason schedule Check Kingwood out themselves and the teams they play(Katy, Tomball, The Woodlands).........how many 3a teams do any of them play??........the "BIG O", Zero, Nada..........Look at how many 4a schools make their schedules.....the one team you see the most of on many top 5a schools is Brenham.........
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