AHUDDLESTON Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 So, in a small school (no spring football), how long does it take for a football program to be considered the new head coach's? For example, if you come in the previous April , does it take a full year before the new head coach gets the Credit/blame? Quote
WOSgrad Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, AHUDDLESTON said: So, in a small school (no spring football), how long does it take for a football program to be considered the new head coach's? For example, if you come in the previous April , does it take a full year before the new head coach gets the Credit/blame? LOL! For some folks around here, you get credit, or more likely blame, as soon as you are announced. Me personally, you should see improvement after the first season. CCbigfan and BelichikYoSelf 2 Quote
NetCat Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, WOSgrad said: LOL! For some folks around here, you get credit, or more likely blame, as soon as you are announced. Me personally, you should see improvement after the first season. This^ After the first season, but not everybody sees it that way Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 I say like 2 years in when the old regime's kids start graduating... Quote
SmashMouth Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, WOSgrad said: LOL! For some folks around here, you get credit, or more likely blame, as soon as you are announced. Me personally, you should see improvement after the first season. 4 minutes ago, NetCat said: This^ After the first season, but not everybody sees it that way Y'all are right. Depends on your starting point though. I can see a coach needing a 2 season "buffer" if the situation is pretty bad... Quote
NetCat Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Y'all are right. Depends on your starting point though. I can see a coach needing a 2 season "buffer" if the situation is pretty bad... Just now, jv_coach said: Day 1 See Lol Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 The 2nd season. When those seniors from 3 years of old coaching have graduated. Quote
Hooohead.com Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 I would say going into 3rd season...your Freshmen will be juniors and you should know what you have and whom you have molded to be an asset.... Quote
GUNHO Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 There is no grace period in football...Well as for as the fans are concerned.lol Quote
NetCat Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Hooohead.com said: I would say going into 3rd season...your Freshmen will be juniors and you should know what you have and whom you have molded to be an asset.... It will be a rare community that gives a coach 3 years though. Most demand results NOW! 😂 Quote
BH85 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 Blame day 1 Credit will take years sometimes. BelichikYoSelf 1 Quote
Bigdog Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 2- 3 years although the fans don't give them that much time in most cases. rhino1877 1 Quote
Hagar Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 Might depend on Coach’s, and the teams, past record, and his pay. Westerberg, at Barbers Hill was getting some bad post on here right off the bat. Now, not so much. Fans of a bad program will be more tolerant. You get named HC at WOS or Carthage, you better come out of the gate kicking booty. There’s a lot of variables. rhino1877, Mr. Buddy Garrity and Bigdog 3 Quote
Reagan Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 A coach owns it in the first year. I usually give first the year a pass. Got to have time to implement the program. Second year should show marked improvement. The third year should be challenging for a District title. But, with that being said, it does take some elite coaches more than three years to have their team in a position to challenge for a State Title. Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 After 2nd yr before 3rd yr. Rather small or big school. I know 2 schools around here where the culture changed after the 2nd year, 1 for good 1 for bad. One of those might be needing a new regime soon. Quote
Hagar Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reagan said: A coach owns it in the first year. I usually give first the year a pass. Got to have time to implement the program. Second year should show marked improvement. The third year should be challenging for a District title. Your response might be because you follow a tradition rich school. Take a team like Huntington. Heck, a Coach that could just get a winning record for several years, could be Mayor (King) of that town. 😂😂😂 NetCat and Reagan 1 1 Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 As soon as the parents get on board. If the expectation is being set and reinforced at home, it will transfer over to the program. BlackShirts5 and NetCat 2 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 Day one.... You'd better hit the ground running. Quote
BlackShirts5 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Posted October 21, 2019 7 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said: The 2nd season. When those seniors from 3 years of old coaching have graduated. I tend to agree with this in some points. Our SR class this year had no other head coach’s. But they have bought in and we look a lot different then we did last year. Still a ways to go. No if there was a lot of negativity and no buy in from the SR class then yea it wouldn’t happen till they are gone. Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Posted October 22, 2019 57 minutes ago, GCMNation5 said: I tend to agree with this in some points. Our SR class this year had no other head coach’s. But they have bought in and we look a lot different then we did last year. Still a ways to go. No if there was a lot of negativity and no buy in from the SR class then yea it wouldn’t happen till they are gone. In the 1st year, senior leadership is almost as much a factor as the coaching change itself. Many people discount how much effect seniors have on lower classes in practice and attitude. You are right that seniors buying into the system can go a long way for the new program. coach bear and WH34 1 1 Quote
BlackShirts5 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Posted October 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: In the 1st year, senior leadership is almost as much a factor as the coaching change itself. Many people discount how much effect seniors have on lower classes in practice and attitude. You are right that seniors buying into the system can go a long way for the new program. No doubt about it. Unfortunately we have been part of it twice. One of my boys is a Sr this year. His sophomore year was a whole new staff and first year. Sr leadership was bad and it showed. Fast forward to now. He is a Sr with new staff again and his SR class leadership has paved the way. It’s been total night and day. Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, GCMNation5 said: No doubt about it. Unfortunately we have been part of it twice. One of my boys is a Sr this year. His sophomore year was a whole new staff and first year. Sr leadership was bad and it showed. Fast forward to now. He is a Sr with new staff again and his SR class leadership has paved the way. It’s been total night and day. Congrats on raising a young man who can accept change at a young age, and show leadership as an upper classmen. Quote
outanup Posted October 22, 2019 Report Posted October 22, 2019 The moment you grab the reins...... Quote
MrUmp1 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Posted October 22, 2019 I think you have to give a coach a full off season. Conditioning, strength, and if he can get the kids to come to voluntary summer workouts. Once you can get some improvements then more will follow and your program will grow. Quote
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