UT alum Posted November 26, 2019 Author Report Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 1:16 PM, BS Wildcats said: Your boy obama didn't endure near as much as Trump, yet through it all, Trump has far exceeded in helping this country more than that total failure you love so much. TRUMP 2020!! Keeping America Great He may not have, but he kicked Moscow Mitch’s ass in getting his signature piece of legislation passed after that relic swore his number one goal as majority leader was to make Obama a one term president. Trump can’t even level an effective insult at Pelosi, let alone work the house to get any of his legislation passed. He’s not effective. He’s defective. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted November 26, 2019 Report Posted November 26, 2019 35 minutes ago, UT alum said: He may not have, but he kicked Moscow Mitch’s ass in getting his signature piece of legislation passed after that relic swore his number one goal as majority leader was to make Obama a one term president. Trump can’t even level an effective insult at Pelosi, let alone work the house to get any of his legislation passed. He’s not effective. He’s defective. Looking at what my retirement accounts have done in the last four years, compared to the previous eight, I would have to say he is very effective. obama had no clue how to deal with the economy. His and the dims vision of taxing and regulating big business in the dirt, doesn't grow an economy. obama managed to get two things done in eight years: pass the disastrous unACA and send pallets of money to his Iranian brethren. Quote
stevenash Posted November 26, 2019 Report Posted November 26, 2019 UT Alum- do you believe that the government needs to be more involved in running the economy of this country or should they be minimally involved? Quote
UT alum Posted November 26, 2019 Author Report Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, BS Wildcats said: Looking at what my retirement accounts have done in the last four years, compared to the previous eight, I would have to say he is very effective. obama had no clue how to deal with the economy. His and the dims vision of taxing and regulating big business in the dirt, doesn't grow an economy. obama managed to get two things done in eight years: pass the disastrous unACA and send pallets of money to his Iranian brethren. ACA was not disastrous and the money you refer to were Iranian assets frozen in our banks. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted November 26, 2019 Report Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, UT alum said: ACA was not disastrous and the money you refer to were Iranian assets frozen in our banks. Premiums skyrocketed, people had to change doctors, which according to obama wouldn't happen. By the way, he knew he lying about that as the words were spewing from his mouth. As for the money to Iran, how many presidents before him kept those assets frozen, 4-5? But let a potus with the Muslim name of hussein obama get elected, and he turns it over to the American haters. That sure was a genius move. Talk about defective!! Quote
UT alum Posted November 27, 2019 Author Report Posted November 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said: Premiums skyrocketed, people had to change doctors, which according to obama wouldn't happen. By the way, he knew he lying about that as the words were spewing from his mouth. As for the money to Iran, how many presidents before him kept those assets frozen, 4-5? But let a potus with the Muslim name of hussein obama get elected, and he turns it over to the American haters. That sure was a genius move. Talk about defective! Quote
stevenash Posted November 27, 2019 Report Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, UT alum said: ACA was not disastrous and the money you refer to were Iranian assets frozen in our banks. I have a close relative who is a school teacher ( yes, the little guy that was going to be protected by Obamacare.) Her premium tripled shortly after ACA was instituted. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 27, 2019 Report Posted November 27, 2019 My insurance went up as well as a direct result of the “affordable” health care act. It was not good for anyone that was actually paying for their own insurance. Quote
UT alum Posted November 27, 2019 Author Report Posted November 27, 2019 11 hours ago, stevenash said: I have a close relative who is a school teacher ( yes, the little guy that was going to be protected by Obamacare.) Her premium tripled shortly after ACA was instituted. My wife has a pre-existing condition. For people like that, price is a secondary consideration. But for ACA, she’d have no coverage today, as we lost our group coverage when I retired. Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, UT alum said: My wife has a pre-existing condition. For people like that, price is a secondary consideration. But for ACA, she’d have no coverage today, as we lost our group coverage when I retired. Perhaps you should've kept working, knowing her condition. But thanks to Democrats policies, by the time I'm your age there'll be no retirement. Work or die. Hope my taxes are helping you guys in the meantime. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
stevenash Posted November 27, 2019 Report Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: Perhaps you should've kept working, knowing her condition. But thanks to Democrats policies, by the time I'm your age there'll be no retirement. Work or die. Hope my taxes are helping you guys in the meantime. You, sir, MUST be an angry, greedy, white racist republican that doesnt care about others. How dare you believe in self responsibility? Quote
UT alum Posted November 27, 2019 Author Report Posted November 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: Perhaps you should've kept working, knowing her condition. But thanks to Democrats policies, by the time I'm your age there'll be no retirement. Work or die. Hope my taxes are helping you guys in the meantime. We can afford her insurance. If it weren’t for the Democratic Party there would be no social security to argue about. As for taxes, I paid in excess of $25K income tax for a good many years, plus matches for my employees’ social security for 30 years. Don’t whine about that to me. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 28, 2019 Report Posted November 28, 2019 6 hours ago, UT alum said: We can afford her insurance. If it weren’t for the Democratic Party there would be no social security to argue about. As for taxes, I paid in excess of $25K income tax for a good many years, plus matches for my employees’ social security for 30 years. Don’t whine about that to me. So you think social security is a good thing? I could have retired 10 years earlier if the fed gov hadn’t stole that money from me. Quote
5GallonBucket Posted November 28, 2019 Report Posted November 28, 2019 On 11/26/2019 at 9:11 PM, stevenash said: I have a close relative who is a school teacher ( yes, the little guy that was going to be protected by Obamacare.) Her premium tripled shortly after ACA was instituted. Yep. Obama ruined insurance. TRS had to go with Aetna because of it. And it’s crap. 900$ a month and didn’t cover much. it’s funny how there is so many examples/proof that the more govt is involved the worse everything is..... but some just can’t see the facts. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 28, 2019 Report Posted November 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said: Yep. Obama ruined insurance. TRS had to go with Aetna because of it. And it’s crap. 900$ a month and didn’t cover much. it’s funny how there is so many examples/proof that the more govt is involved the worse everything is..... but some just can’t see the facts. If you are a freeloading taker that never pays your way anyway, you would have no idea if insurance rates go up. Zero liability! Quote
UT alum Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Posted November 28, 2019 9 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: So you think social security is a good thing? I could have retired 10 years earlier if the fed gov hadn’t stole that money from me. You think you would have saved it? Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 28, 2019 Report Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, UT alum said: You think you would have saved it? Yes I would, but that’s not the point. It’s my money, not theirs. Sad that so many think the fed government can do a better job with their fiscal security than they can. I’m not one of them. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted November 28, 2019 Report Posted November 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Yes I would, but that’s not the point. It’s my money, not theirs. Sad that so many think the fed government can do a better job with their fiscal security than they can. I’m not one of them. All one needs to do is look at some of the countries that the government is in control of everything. Greece and Venezuela are two glaring examples. Why would any American want that? I can't figure why Dims today think that socialism is the way to go. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
UT alum Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, BS Wildcats said: All one needs to do is look at some of the countries that the government is in control of everything. Greece and Venezuela are two glaring examples. Why would any American want that? I can't figure why Dims today think that socialism is the way to go. They don’t. Quote
stevenash Posted November 28, 2019 Report Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, UT alum said: They don’t. They don't? A goodly portion of the public perceives that they absolutely do. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 28, 2019 Report Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, UT alum said: They don’t. Yes, they do. They love the fact that there are many like yourself that haven’t realized this yet. Quote
stevenash Posted November 29, 2019 Report Posted November 29, 2019 13 hours ago, UT alum said: You think you would have saved it? No- ONLY the government is capable of providing for your retirement. ONLY the government can provide you with a college education. ONLY the government can provide you with food. ONLY the government can provide you with telephones. ONLY the government can own and manage firearms. Cradle to grave care/supervision is most successful when provided by the government. ONLY the government can decide what is a fair amount of profit for a corporation to make. If you don't believe me, just ask all who use the VA and those on the Indian reservations. Quote
baddog Posted November 29, 2019 Report Posted November 29, 2019 I think President Trump should sell some of our Uranium to Putin, then no one would think he is colluding with Russia. Moral to this story.........the left can’t see the forest for the trees. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 29, 2019 Report Posted November 29, 2019 13 hours ago, stevenash said: No- ONLY the government is capable of providing for your retirement. ONLY the government can provide you with a college education. ONLY the government can provide you with food. ONLY the government can provide you with telephones. ONLY the government can own and manage firearms. Cradle to grave care/supervision is most successful when provided by the government. ONLY the government can decide what is a fair amount of profit for a corporation to make. If you don't believe me, just ask all who use the VA and those on the Indian reservations. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
BS Wildcats Posted November 29, 2019 Report Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, baddog said: I think President Trump should sell some of our Uranium to Putin, then no one would think he is colluding with Russia. Moral to this story.........the left can’t see the forest for the trees. Only the Dimtards are allowed to collude with Russia without coincidence. See Hillary. In case you forgot, UT Alum. Quote
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