patitan Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 got there when the 1st teamers were on the field. lee is soft against the pass,but seems like they can handle the run. from the lee fans i talked to,lee struggled the whole scrimmage not scoring a t.d....then that's when it happend fight number #1 on field. then lee got on the field wasn't throwing down field. 5yards here 5yard catch there. then they finally scored....then BOOM!!! FIGHT #2. refs called the scrimmage.lee will get smashed early if they don't fix all the "talent" they did not look good.
gary-us-bonds Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 As I said on the other thread. Ball High was running a LOT more than they wee passing in this game. Wait a minute........I'm starting to put two and two together now.....You do work at a hospital...You weren't driving a motorcycle were you?If so, I saw you and was right behind you walking to my car.....But all your histrionics asideLee couldnt handle the run.Lee could have scored all night long if they wanted to stick to the plays that were working. Ball stuck to about 3 plays that were working instead of actually working on their plays. Lee mixed it up all night long, some plays working better than others.Lee will need to step up the defense though. Lee offense will be one of the best in Houston.I will amend my prediction for the Central game. I say Lee 42 - Central 41
patitan Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Posted August 25, 2007 As I said on the other thread. Ball High was running a LOT more than they wee passing in this game. Wait a minute........I'm starting to put two and two together now.....You do work at a hospital...You weren't driving a motorcycle were you?If so, I saw you and was right behind you walking to my car.....But all your histrionics asideLee couldnt handle the run.Lee could have scored all night long if they wanted to stick to the plays that were working. Ball stuck to about 3 plays that were working instead of actually working on their plays. Lee mixed it up all night long, some plays working better than others.Lee will need to step up the defense though. Lee offense will be one of the best in Houston.I will amend my prediction for the Central game. I say Lee 42 - Central 41 yeah,that was me on the bike.i give lee two bright spots. size and from the parts i saw,stopping the run. didn't see anything special. looked like same lee type team.
SFA85 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 As I said on the other thread. Ball High was running a LOT more than they wee passing in this game. Wait a minute........I'm starting to put two and two together now.....You do work at a hospital...You weren't driving a motorcycle were you?If so, I saw you and was right behind you walking to my car.....But all your histrionics asideLee couldnt handle the run.Lee could have scored all night long if they wanted to stick to the plays that were working. Ball stuck to about 3 plays that were working instead of actually working on their plays. Lee mixed it up all night long, some plays working better than others.Lee will need to step up the defense though. Lee offense will be one of the best in Houston.I will amend my prediction for the Central game. I say Lee 42 - Central 41 The drug store cotton soft defense continues in Geese land. Ball ain't no slouch but y'all better improve Mr Geese Fan....
BMTSoulja1 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 Ohh, so now it changed from 21-42 to 41-42 vs Central? OK, Pana. : :)
gary-us-bonds Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 Hey, the defense is a little behind right now. I could see Central scoring some points. I'm just trying to give an honest assessment from what information I have gathered. I still don't think Central will be able to stop Lee very much, if at all. Lee will make some mistakes and stop themselves with dropped balls, penalties, etc. Lee's linebackers are just sooo small. Ball kept ON running the zone read play. It was working. Ball didn't pass near as much as patitan is letting on. They got a couple of nice ones towards the end of the scrimmage after the second fight(there was actually another one before patitan got there, making three fights total). I'm not too concerned about teams passing on Lee. If patitan had been there for the first series of 15 plays....boy boy. He would really be having a field day lol. Glad he wasn't there to see that. Ball was just running right through Lee like a knife through hot butter. You could see the learning curve from the first series to the second even. The tide was turning towards Lee that second series of plays for the 1 vs 1. Lee stopped Ball to probably 30 total yards on their second set of 10 plays. Lee rolled right down the field for 70 yards and scored in about 6 or 7 plays to start their second set of offensive plays for the first string. I would have liked our chances had we gotten to the game conditions portion of the scrimmage.
BigWolf10 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 Was't Lee favored last year? We handled them with ease. Stowers is a defensive specialist. Their offense will suffer like it did last year, believe me. Central by two TD's! :
BMTSoulja1 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 I believe your assessment, pana. I wanna hear a second Titan's assessment too. I have a friend going to the Memorial/Central scrimmage today since I have to work all day, so I know what we have.
gary-us-bonds Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 I doubt very seriously that Lee was favored last year. If they were, then that prognosticator needs to lose his job. Lee was coming off a one win season in 2005, so I don't think many people expected them to win district last year like they did.
BMTSoulja1 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 Just talked to Titan. Lee is good against the run. Attacking defense. Pass defense is very suspect. dont' have to worry, I have never knew Central to be a passing team. I just hope our pass defense will be able to stop the Ganders. Hope there was a scout there. Should we come out passing? Or just go smashmouth like last years opener?
patitan Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Posted August 25, 2007 like i said soulja big and fast d line after that,the jags hould be okay.should be okay. don't knmow if central should be running the new offense we talked about though. lee offense to me was nothing special.then again,i would have more had they made it to the live qtr. central 28geese-17
BMTSoulja1 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 We have a big D-line too. so how does their o-line look?
patitan Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Posted August 25, 2007 they were decent.like i said didn't see this monster team as bragged about. i seen the typical lee team.as far as ditrict goes lee will be third or fourth team. i look at them having the same record as last year.
gary-us-bonds Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 :Central needs to stick to the ground game. Power running game. That's how you will beat Lee. Lee is very light in the pants in the linebacking crew. The two outside linebackers probably average 5'11" 165 pounds. Ball ran up the middle for 180 yards on the first 15 plays and 2 scores. They were coming back down the field the other way for another score too. The rush defense still worries me for Lee. Of course, I doubt Lee had really worked on what Ball was doing with that down the line option and zone read. Who knows?Just the facts, three of Lee's starters were not playing. Willis was not in there at cornerback, the linebacker we have that actually has some weight to him was not playing and Michael Mahan was not playing at receiver. Lee's offense looked tough if you look at it from an unbiased view. Patitan is biased. Jarvis Moore is better than last year. Josh is a great scrambler. He was making the Ball defense(which is very fast) look silly. That's a whole new dimension we have not had. Josh will scramble for many a third down conversion this year. Ball only stopped Lee once all night, the first drive. Josh threw an interception on a great play by a defensive lineman after Lee had driven down to Ball's 10. Going back the other way, Lee moved down inside the 20 only to run out of plays. Next set of plays, Lee drove it right down the field for a td, then the scrimmage was called. Lee gained about 180 yards on their 20 or so plays they ran. Lee's offense is the least of our worries. No one is saying they are going to move 90 yards in 3 plays every time. It's just a functional, tough to stop offense.
KG03bruins7 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 WOOOOOOOOO MAN O' MAN, thats what i was expecting from lee all talk no play. They better fix there problems before steping on the field with our lil brothers cross town Central and my Bruins. GO BROOK!
82 5A State Champs Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 :Central needs to stick to the ground game. Power running game. That's how you will beat Lee. Lee is very light in the pants in the linebacking crew. The two outside linebackers probably average 5'11" 165 pounds. Ball ran up the middle for 180 yards on the first 15 plays and 2 scores. They were coming back down the field the other way for another score too. The rush defense still worries me for Lee. Of course, I doubt Lee had really worked on what Ball was doing with that down the line option and zone read. Who knows?Just the facts, three of Lee's starters were not playing. Willis was not in there at cornerback, the linebacker we have that actually has some weight to him was not playing and Michael Mahan was not playing at receiver. Lee's offense looked tough if you look at it from an unbiased view. Patitan is biased. Jarvis Moore is better than last year. Josh is a great scrambler. He was making the Ball defense(which is very fast) look silly. That's a whole new dimension we have not had. Josh will scramble for many a third down conversion this year. Ball only stopped Lee once all night, the first drive. Josh threw an interception on a great play by a defensive lineman after Lee had driven down to Ball's 10. Going back the other way, Lee moved down inside the 20 only to run out of plays. Next set of plays, Lee drove it right down the field for a td, then the scrimmage was called. Lee gained about 180 yards on their 20 or so plays they ran. Lee's offense is the least of our worries. No one is saying they are going to move 90 yards in 3 plays every time. It's just a functional, tough to stop offense.geez if that is true(about lee's rushing defense), then WB should have no problem beating them with their two runnung backs. But still alot of football to play before then....still, should be interesting!
BMTSoulja1 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 WOOOOOOOOO MAN O' MAN, thats what i was expecting from lee all talk no play. They better fix there problems before steping on the field with our lil brothers cross town Central and my Bruins. GO BROOK!Lol @ 'little brothers' :
gary-us-bonds Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 For one, yall were not even there.For two, in the period of time that patitan was there, Lee moved right down the field like nobody's business and Ball didn't score at all, so patitan couldn't have seen THAT much wrong with Lee. He wasn't even there when Ball was moving down the field on Lee.Lee will be just fine. They always start off slow. The fact that they so easily moved the ball down the field all night long last night is good. They usually take a while to crank the precision passing game up. The fact that their top returning receiver didn't play makes it all the better.Also, I think Ball is just a lot better than people are expecting. Patino looked NOTHING like this last year. He looks like a very shifty runner now.
gary-us-bonds Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 Josh is not super fast, but he's super elusive. He was knocking off 7-10 yards before anyone knew what hit them. Ball's linebackers were looking silly trying to get him in the open field. Lucky they didn't tear some acl's out there.Lee's never been a big play offense. They were just working on stuff yet they easily moved down the field as if Ball wasn't even there. The defense did worry me a little bit. I'm not gonna lie.The offense is going to be our best since Drew Tate was here.
WVU Fan Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 I was at the Lee/Ball scrimmage and there were three fights that resulted in the scrimmage being halted. Lee didn't look good at All on defense. They couldn't stop the run or the pass. On offense, if that QB(6) gets hurt they are done. They only ran the ball when he scrambeld.
gary-us-bonds Posted August 25, 2007 Report Posted August 25, 2007 Jarvis ran about 8 times for 40 yards, so you are being a bit misleading when you say Lee only ran when Josh scrambled. Ball stopped Jarvis for no gain 2 or 3 times, but he was getting yards for the most part.You are right in saying that Lee is done for if Josh goes down. Although, Torres is the same guy that came in last year and somehow, someway got Lee into the playoffs. Like I keep trying to tell patitan about last year's game in PA. Lee was without a qb for all intents and purposes. There is a HUGE dropoff between Josh and Torres.Lee moved the ball up and down the field all night long with the first team. Ball has a great defense, but Lee was slicing through them with relative ease.Ball was running through Lee like they were not even there too though....at least the first set of plays. The second set, Lee started to come around and shut Ball down the first 6 plays, then the fight broke out, Lee's top pass rusher got kicked out the game and Ball got a couple pass plays in there. All this(AGAIN) with 20% of Lee's defense not playing a lick last night.I realize there are a lot of Golden Triangle fans on this forum and only one Lee fan, so I just have to keep things equal in terms of coverage. Don't want you mis-representing what happened on the field last night.
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