BISD board member is a NAACP member???

[5GallonBucket]

Darrell antoine

is that correct?

[CardinalBacker]

I don’t see a problem. 

[tvc184]

Wait, a school board member is in a civil rights organization???

[Reagan]

8 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

Darrell antoine

is that correct?

Let's get it right:   You mean the "NAALCP!"

[SmashMouth]

 

9 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

 

Darrell antoine

is that correct?

 

Because you didn’t quantify your question or reason for starting a topic on this subject matter, it’s a little (lot) embarrassing... Do you care to shed some light on why this is topic-worthy?

[5GallonBucket]

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

 

Because you didn’t quantify your question or reason for starting a topic on this subject matter, it’s a little (lot) embarrassing... Do you care to shed some light on why this is topic-worthy?

I’m not embarrassed at all....if your embarrassed for me so be it.

before I respond...because it will be a lengthy response (which is not my norm)

I want you to think about what a school board member does (hiring, student and employee policies, etc.)

Perception can become reality and reality can cause issues.

 

[Reagan]

3 hours ago, Reagan said:

Let's get it right:   You mean the "NAALCP!"

People do realize that the "L" stands for liberal?!  Think not?  Ask Clarence Thomas if the NAALCP supported him when he had the chance to obtain the highest spot in his profession!!

[SmashMouth]

2 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

I’m not embarrassed at all....if your embarrassed for me so be it.

before I respond...because it will be a lengthy response (which is not my norm)

I want you to think about what a school board member does (hiring, student and employee policies, etc.)

Perception can become reality and reality can cause issues.

 

I still have no issue with it. He’s not a member of the militant black panthers or the infamous KKK. 

[TxHoops]

2 hours ago, Reagan said:

People do realize that the "L" stands for liberal?!  Think not?  Ask Clarence Thomas if the NAALCP supported him when he had the chance to obtain the highest spot in his profession!!

The lack of support for Clarence Thomas was well founded by all opponents.  If ever there was a case of affirmative action (giving someone a position based solely on skin color), it’s Thomas.  He should be the poster child.  And he has spent the last almost 30 years proving his naysayers right.  I will say that he maybe the GOAT at napping on the bench.  He’s definitely the GOAT at almost never asking a question.  

[LumRaiderFan]

40 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

I still have no issue with it. He’s not a member of the militant black panthers or the infamous KKK. 

That standard doesn’t cross many folks off the list...lol.

[THE DUDE]

51 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

I still have no issue with it. He’s not a member of the militant black panthers or the infamous KKK. 

where do you draw the line? 

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is a group based on race.

as long as you have groups based on race you will have division. 

the problem with groups like these is they don't want to be treated EQUAL they want to be treated SPECIAL.  

[SmashMouth]

47 minutes ago, THE DUDE said:

where do you draw the line? 

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is a group based on race.

as long as you have groups based on race you will have division. 

the problem with groups like these is they don't want to be treated EQUAL they want to be treated SPECIAL.  

I see what you’re saying, but tell me what the problem is again? Should a school board member be allowed to join any special interest group, whatsoever?

[87JAG]

51 minutes ago, THE DUDE said:

where do you draw the line? 

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is a group based on race.

as long as you have groups based on race you will have division. 

the problem with groups like these is they don't want to be treated EQUAL they want to be treated SPECIAL.  

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.  

There where whites that help start this organization; The same organization that was at the forefront of women's rights. The organization does not restrict membership from anyone. They promote civil rights. Guess what? Even yours. 

Fact checker: Look at what briefs they have filed with the Supreme Court. Have they stood with Blacks in a lot of situations? Of course. The results:  We moved from separate facilities(schools, bathrooms, restaurants). Have you benefited from their success? Think about your "civil rights" every time you're arguing with someone about carrying a gun or buying an assault weapon. And, remember, it does not only apply to you!

[CardinalBacker]

1 hour ago, THE DUDE said:

where do you draw the line? 

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is a group based on race.

as long as you have groups based on race you will have division. 

the problem with groups like these is they don't want to be treated EQUAL they want to be treated SPECIAL.  

I disagree with you.  I think that groups that help advance the cause of groups (racial, ethic, political affiliation are just fine.  

My problem is that IF there were such a group for white people, membership in THAT group would be grounds for disqualification.  

Heck, just saying that you voted "R" makes you a racist and unfit for leadership in a lot peoples' minds

[SmashMouth]

1 minute ago, CardinalBacker said:

I disagree with you.  I think that groups that help advance the cause of groups (racial, ethic, political affiliation are just fine.  

My problem is that IF there were such a group for white people, membership in THAT group would be grounds for disqualification.  

Heck, just saying that you voted "R" makes you a racist and unfit for leadership in a lot peoples' minds

You must have gotten some good sleep. You’re actually posting things that makes sense!

🤭

[Reagan]

3 hours ago, TxHoops said:

The lack of support for Clarence Thomas was well founded by all opponents.  If ever there was a case of affirmative action (giving someone a position based solely on skin color), it’s Thomas.  He should be the poster child.  And he has spent the last almost 30 years proving his naysayers right.  I will say that he maybe the GOAT at napping on the bench.  He’s definitely the GOAT at almost never asking a question.  

If nothing changed but his politics and Thomas was a Socialist, the NAALCP would have supported him 100%!  Guaranteed!  During his confirmation, he claimed that he was subjected to a "high tech lynch mob."  There was basically silence by the NAALCP during this sad period! So, yes, the "L" is appropriate! 

[TxHoops]

14 minutes ago, Reagan said:

If nothing changed but his politics and Thomas was a Socialist, the NAALCP would have supported him 100%!  Guaranteed!  During his confirmation, he claimed that he was subjected to a "high tech lynch mob."  There was basically silence by the NAALCP during this sad period! So, yes, the "L" is appropriate! 

I wasn’t commenting on the NAACP not supporting him.  I was saying that he has made a fool out of anyone who championed his cause.  May be the worst justice that has ever disgraced a robe (I can’t think of anyone worse).  He has cornered the market on incompetence and laziness.  But thanks to the color of his skin, he did achieve the pinnacle of his profession.  So good on the NAACP and anyone else who didn’t support his nomination.  And shame on the hypocrites who oppose affirmative action yet do support him.  
 

And not to derail this thread, but my view of Comatose Clarence has nothing to do with his philosophical beliefs.  I appreciate any justice who is bright, thoughtful and hardworking.   Justice Scalia, who was as conservative a justice as the high court has seen, was one of the greatest justices the Court has ever seen.   He was brilliant and a workhorse.   His best friend, RBG, although on the other end of the political spectrum, will be remembered as one of the best as well (and Scalia would be the first to tell you how much he respected her).
 

 But when Thomas replaced Thurgood Marshall on the Court, it was akin to the Lakers replacing Lebron James with Kevin James. 

[THE DUDE]

2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

I disagree with you.  I think that groups that help advance the cause of groups (racial, ethic, political affiliation are just fine.  

My problem is that IF there were such a group for white people, membership in THAT group would be grounds for disqualification.  

Heck, just saying that you voted "R" makes you a racist and unfit for leadership in a lot peoples' minds

NAACP is no different than the KKK.

both are racist groups.

if you truly want to get rid of racism you need to stop dividing people and drawing lines. 

National Association for the Advancement of Underprivileged People.

[CardinalBacker]

49 minutes ago, THE DUDE said:

NAACP is no different than the KKK.

both are racist groups.

if you truly want to get rid of racism you need to stop dividing people and drawing lines. 

National Association for the Advancement of Underprivileged People.

You’re on your own, buddy. I don’t agree with a lot of the platform that the NAACP pushes these days, but they haven’t ever been comparable to the Klan. Wearing masks, terrorizing and intimidating people... hell, the lynchings!
When there’s not much real racism left to point at, they’ve had to move on to confronting “privilege” and other immeasurables to justify their own existence. 
Sometimes I think it’s quite comical to see all of these young kids who’ve never experienced real racism acting like “it’s not safe to be black in America.” Go back 60-70 years when cops actually would beat a black man just to make sure he never came back to “their” town. Those old days of an n-word stealing more chain than he could swim away with. Now days the fact that group “b” had more college debt than group “a” it’s a sign of “oppression” and privilege. 

I’m a member of several trade and hobby organizations. They give me and people like me a voice that I don’t have on my own. 

I do believe that the NAACP has had some terrible leadership at the National and local levels, but that’s their problem, not mine.
This is a sports board. None of us would respect a coach or AD who would tell the kids “oh, you can’t compete. Have you seen their facilities? It’s not fair. We’ll never beat those guys. They’re too athletic, and they need to spot us some points.” That what we all call a “losers mentality,” but it’s what leadership has been feeding over there for decades. 

[SmashMouth]

1 hour ago, THE DUDE said:

NAACP is no different than the KKK.

both are racist groups.

if you truly want to get rid of racism you need to stop dividing people and drawing lines. 

National Association for the Advancement of Underprivileged People.

Dude, you can’t honestly be trying to sell that idea. Had you said Black Panthers....then maybe. That’s like saying a ribeye and a round steak are no different - they’re both beef. 
Apples and oranges my friend (both fruit though).

[THE DUDE]

43 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

Dude, you can’t honestly be trying to sell that idea. Had you said Black Panthers....then maybe. That’s like saying a ribeye and a round steak are no different - they’re both beef. 
Apples and oranges my friend (both fruit though).

you are correct. 

both are racist groups.

different extremes but they are still both racist groups.

so it is okay to be racist as long at you don't march and have demonstrations? 

where do you draw the line for acceptable racism?

[CardinalBacker]

19 minutes ago, THE DUDE said:

you are correct. 

both are racist groups.

different extremes but they are still both racist groups.

so it is okay to be racist as long at you don't march and have demonstrations? 

where do you draw the line for acceptable racism?

Well, for starters one group endorses hatred towards other groups and espouses superiority. Same group also has a bloody, bloody past. 
The other group was founded not out of hate or a belief of superiority, but trying to secure equal rights (which they deserved). 
I think there are a lot of people in the NAACP who have some faulty beliefs and there are racists among their ranks. But the militant ones have to go find a more more radical group of that want to act on their hateful ideas. 
The Klan WAS that more radical group for white people.  The low key white racists just became masons. 

[Big girl]

2 hours ago, THE DUDE said:

NAACP is no different than the KKK.

both are racist groups.

if you truly want to get rid of racism you need to stop dividing people and drawing lines. 

National Association for the Advancement of Underprivileged People.

B.S. Have you ever heard of members of the NAACP lynching Whites, or bombing churches?

[THE DUDE]

57 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Well, for starters one group endorses hatred towards other groups and espouses superiority. Same group also has a bloody, bloody past. 
The other group was founded not out of hate or a belief of superiority, but trying to secure equal rights (which they deserved). 
I think there are a lot of people in the NAACP who have some faulty beliefs and there are racists among their ranks. But the militant ones have to go find a more more radical group of that want to act on their hateful ideas. 
The Klan WAS that more radical group for white people.  The low key white racists just became masons. 

since you agree that the NAACP is a racist group

where do you draw the line for acceptable racism opposed to unacceptable racism?

[SmashMouth]

13 minutes ago, THE DUDE said:

since you agree that the NAACP is a racist group

where do you draw the line for acceptable racism opposed to unacceptable racism?

Define racist