AggiesAreWe Posted May 30, 2020 Report Posted May 30, 2020 So a school board member should not be a member of the NAACP? Does that go for the KKK, NRA, ACLU? Quote
SmashMouth Posted May 30, 2020 Report Posted May 30, 2020 37 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: So a school board member should not be a member of the NAACP? Does that go for the KKK, NRA, ACLU? AARP Hagar, TxHoops and NetCat 3 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted May 30, 2020 Report Posted May 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, THE DUDE said: since you agree that the NAACP is a racist group where do you draw the line for acceptable racism opposed to unacceptable racism? You’re twisting my words. I do not believe that the NAACP should be classified as a racist group. That’s the fallacy of the whole “you’re a racist” declaration. Just because my beliefs don’t line up with the progressive left wing of the Democratic Party doesn’t make me a racist. I believe that God created us all equal in his eyes. What we do after that is up to us. If you’re 20 years old, a high school dropout, a criminal record, a couple of illegitimate kids, can’t speak the King’s English, and have neck tattoos.... your lack of personal success is not the fault of racism, oppression or privilege. That’s just bad life choices on your part. I’m never going to feel guilty over somebody else’s bad decisions. I don’t hate anybody, much less a group of people for the color of their skin. But I’m not going to pretend that the Emperor has on clothes for you, either. I’m not going to apologize for something that may or may not have happened to somebody’s ancestors by somebody who may or may not have been one of my ancestors. Slavery has existed since the dawn of mankind. It’s still going on in Africa today. There’s not another country in the world that doesn’t have a history that includes slavery. But it’s our “original sin.” Slavery was a bad thing. We got it wrong to start, and we fought hard and got that institution outlawed, as it should be. But to hear the Mayor of Minneapolis blaming the looting on 400 years of horror is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. SmashMouth 1 Quote
Hagar Posted May 30, 2020 Report Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said: So a school board member should not be a member of the NAACP? Does that go for the KKK, NRA, ACLU? Definitely goes for the ACLU. 😂😂😂 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted June 3, 2020 Author Report Posted June 3, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 12:00 PM, SmashMouth said: I still have no issue with it. He’s not a member of the militant black panthers or the infamous KKK. This has nothing to do with the board member personally. I do not know him and cannot speak of him. This has to do with the interest group NAACP and what it says with its name. so in reading this keep that in mind. these are my issues and this goes for any group that singles itself out based on race No Matter the Race. such groups seek for the minority of people (See further down in post) which can lead to pluralism....no common good, as there are many conflicting interest in society. also can lead to hyperpluralism as far as school board member being part of such group....it could be a conflict of interest. That school board member approves the hiring of employees at all levels, make policies, rules, guidelines for the district staff and students. last I checked Beaumont isd has many employees and students of all races. given the name NAACP.....does that not leave a certain group out.???? Do we as humans not want all advancement of ALL people no matter color? this is not slavery years or after to the 50s and 60s. This is 2020. I can understand the NAACP being around then because of the great travesty and oppression of blacks during those times. Today there are many many many successful blacks....actors actresses coaches athletes, drs, lawyers, teachers, comedians...we ve had a mixed President with a black First Lady.... think about this....if there was a white person on the school board that was a member of NAAWP.....how would that go over? I can tell you now I would be against it and posting this same exact post. just like the media uses the colors “black” and “white” In headlines to grab attention and bring divisiveness and play on people s emotion so can such groups last thought ”....NAA colored people” - Are white people not a color? again this is my opinion and at face value of the groups name it can be divisive and givin that most humans want unity such names don’t help. Quote
SmashMouth Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, 5GallonBucket said: This has nothing to do with the board member personally. I do not know him and cannot speak of him. This has to do with the interest group NAACP and what it says with its name. so in reading this keep that in mind. these are my issues and this goes for any group that singles itself out based on race No Matter the Race. such groups seek for the minority of people (See further down in post) which can lead to pluralism....no common good, as there are many conflicting interest in society. also can lead to hyperpluralism as far as school board member being part of such group....it could be a conflict of interest. That school board member approves the hiring of employees at all levels, make policies, rules, guidelines for the district staff and students. last I checked Beaumont isd has many employees and students of all races. given the name NAACP.....does that not leave a certain group out.???? Do we as humans not want all advancement of ALL people no matter color? this is not slavery years or after to the 50s and 60s. This is 2020. I can understand the NAACP being around then because of the great travesty and oppression of blacks during those times. Today there are many many many successful blacks....actors actresses coaches athletes, drs, lawyers, teachers, comedians...we ve had a mixed President with a black First Lady.... think about this....if there was a white person on the school board that was a member of NAAWP.....how would that go over? I can tell you now I would be against it and posting this same exact post. just like the media uses the colors “black” and “white” In headlines to grab attention and bring divisiveness and play on people s emotion so can such groups last thought ”....NAA colored people” - Are white people not a color? again this is my opinion and at face value of the groups name it can be divisive and givin that most humans want unity such names don’t help. If you don’t mind, you’re being too general. The only real reason you listed that might be an issue in regards to the school board member’s membership to the NAACP is that “as far as school board member being part of such group....it could be a conflict of interest. That school board member approves the hiring of employees at all levels, make policies, rules, guidelines for the district staff and students.” Can you be specific to the conflict? Do you have an actual example where this has been a problem in the BISD? Quote
THE DUDE Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: If you don’t mind, you’re being too general. The only real reason you listed that might be an issue in regards to the school board member’s membership to the NAACP is that “as far as school board member being part of such group....it could be a conflict of interest. That school board member approves the hiring of employees at all levels, make policies, rules, guidelines for the district staff and students.” Can you be specific to the conflict? Do you have an actual example where this has been a problem in the BISD? what hadn't been a problem at BISD. perception is reality. Quote
SmashMouth Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, THE DUDE said: what hadn't been a problem at BISD. perception is reality. Vague. What do you mean? Does that mean that only BISD should not have NAACP members? Quote
tvc184 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 If a board member is a member of the NRA, is that a conflict of interest and is he against stopping gun violence in schools? Quote
5GallonBucket Posted June 4, 2020 Author Report Posted June 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, tvc184 said: If a board member is a member of the NRA, is that a conflict of interest and is he against stopping gun violence in schools? Again I said interest groups involving race I said nothing about NRA and no I’m not a member but I do own many guns. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said: Again I said interest groups involving race I said nothing about NRA and no I’m not a member but I do own many guns. I can see your point and I think it’s a good one. Anyone that is a member of a group that leans towards promoting the welfare of one race (any race) over another has no business on a school board. Quote
SmashMouth Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: I can see your point and I think it’s a good one. Anyone that is a member of a group that leans towards promoting the welfare of one race (any race) over another has no business on a school board. Why? Should we not have ex-high school athletes on the board because they will vote on funding of sports over education? She we make sure to not have Jews either because they won’t promote a mainly Christian agenda? Why is race so special? Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Why? Should we not have ex-high school athletes on the board because they will vote on funding of sports over education? She we make sure to not have Jews either because they won’t promote a mainly Christian agenda? Why is race so special? I don’t want any agenda promoted by a school board other than education. No favoritism should be shown when hiring, firing, or anything else. Read up on the modern day NAACP, maybe you’ll see what we’re talking about. Quote
SmashMouth Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: I don’t want any agenda promoted by a school board other than education. No favoritism should be shown when hiring, firing, or anything else. Read up on the modern day NAACP, maybe you’ll see what we’re talking about. I did. Your point? Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SmashMouth said: I did. Your point? I stated my point. Quote
SmashMouth Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: I stated my point. Are you saying you can’t be a member of any organization that can sway your decision-making? Quote
5GallonBucket Posted June 4, 2020 Author Report Posted June 4, 2020 4 hours ago, SmashMouth said: If you don’t mind, you’re being too general. The only real reason you listed that might be an issue in regards to the school board member’s membership to the NAACP is that “as far as school board member being part of such group....it could be a conflict of interest. That school board member approves the hiring of employees at all levels, make policies, rules, guidelines for the district staff and students.” Can you be specific to the conflict? Do you have an actual example where this has been a problem in the BISD? It’s self explanatory and I also eluded to it. also you never answered or anyone else for that fact.... replace black man with white man and the “C” with a “W”.....you wouldn’t have a problem with that? Quote
5GallonBucket Posted June 4, 2020 Author Report Posted June 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Why? Should we not have ex-high school athletes on the board because they will vote on funding of sports over education? She we make sure to not have Jews either because they won’t promote a mainly Christian agenda? Why is race so special? Race is not but the interactions of races with other races is ....given the conversations we re having Quote
5GallonBucket Posted June 4, 2020 Author Report Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, tvc184 said: If a board member is a member of the NRA, is that a conflict of interest and is he against stopping gun violence in schools? Everyone wants to stop gun violence in schools NRA or not Quote
5GallonBucket Posted June 4, 2020 Author Report Posted June 4, 2020 Also there is more than one school board member that is affiliated with NAACP Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Are you saying you can’t be a member of any organization that can sway your decision-making? Not if it sways your decision making about race, religion, gender...you get my point. Quote
tvc184 Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: Everyone wants to stop gun violence in schools NRA or not Yeah but you equate s civil rights organizations with not having the best interest of all students but dismiss an NRA member as not a factor. Every time there is a school shooting, the NRA catches grief of putting too much pressure on lawmakers to maje guns to easy to access. No matter how you look at it, many people blame the NRA rightly or wrongly for shootings. You are doing the same for the NAACP. SmashMouth and Big girl 1 1 Quote
Big girl Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 12 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: I can see your point and I think it’s a good one. Anyone that is a member of a group that leans towards promoting the welfare of one race (any race) over another has no business on a school board. Why was the NAACP founded? Quote
stevenash Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, Big girl said: Why was the NAACP founded? Seems like you should probably be giving the answer to the question rather than posing it NetCat 1 Quote
SmashMouth Posted June 4, 2020 Report Posted June 4, 2020 16 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: It’s self explanatory and I also eluded to it. also you never answered or anyone else for that fact.... It’s only self explanatory if the people think just like you. Can you be specific for those that really don’t understand what you are saying or what conflict it causes? I feel like you are being elusive because you’re either too scared to say it in a public forum or you don’t really have a reason other than you don’t like the NAACP. If that’s the reason, then just say it. Quote
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