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Hagar

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As we all know, the experts have been back & forth on this.   They say wearing a mask won’t protect you, but if you have Covid, it’ll keep it from spreading it to others.   Like a brain dead person, I never gave it much thought.   Then, it dawned on me, if my mask doesn’t keep the Virus from getting to me, how does someone’s mask who’s infected stop the Virus from getting to others?   Since Dr Fauci is not on this Forum, is there anyone medically qualified to answer my question?

And understand, at my age & heath conditions, I usually wear one, but it almost seems pointless.

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6 hours ago, Hagar said:

As we all know, the experts have been back & forth on this.   They say wearing a mask won’t protect you, but if you have Covid, it’ll keep it from spreading it to others.   Like a brain dead person, I never gave it much thought.   Then, it dawned on me, if my mask doesn’t keep the Virus from getting to me, how does someone’s mask who’s infected stop the Virus from getting to others?   Since Dr Fauci is not on this Forum, is there anyone medically qualified to answer my question?

And understand, at my age & heath conditions, I usually wear one, but it almost seems pointless.

I addressed this on the Coronavirus thread, you know, the thread that’s been abandoned since the riots started. 
 If the masks work, why did we shut down our entire nation (and the world)? If they don’t work, why wear them? It’s really that simple. 

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A mask alone is not enough to protect you if you come in contact with someone who is positive. It's my belief that it has somewhat slowed the spread. Now we are talking about the difference between turtle and and a snails pace. Keep wearing them if you are at high risk. What does it hurt? Wearing a condom isn't 100% safe either, but some people still use them.

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9 hours ago, Hagar said:

As we all know, the experts have been back & forth on this.   They say wearing a mask won’t protect you, but if you have Covid, it’ll keep it from spreading it to others.   Like a brain dead person, I never gave it much thought.   Then, it dawned on me, if my mask doesn’t keep the Virus from getting to me, how does someone’s mask who’s infected stop the Virus from getting to others?   Since Dr Fauci is not on this Forum, is there anyone medically qualified to answer my question?

And understand, at my age & heath conditions, I usually wear one, but it almost seems pointless.

Much like the thugs and their "opportunity", did the the different state governments do the same thing?  Did they see an opportunity to see what we would fall for?  Not totally believing it at this point but just throwing it out there.

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Branick is following the lead of the big cities.  They figured out the govt can’t force people to wear them, but they can force the businesses to require them.  Not sure what 6 days is going to do

 

 

BREAKING: Jefferson County Judge Jeff Branick says he'll require all businesses that provide goods and services to require masks beginning June 24-June 30. Businesses could face penalties if there are violations.  Up to a $1,000 fine but no jail time.

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37 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:

Branick is following the lead of the big cities.  They figured out the govt can’t force people to wear them, but they can force the businesses to require them.  Not sure what 6 days is going to do

 

 

BREAKING: Jefferson County Judge Jeff Branick says he'll require all businesses that provide goods and services to require masks beginning June 24-June 30. Businesses could face penalties if there are violations.  Up to a $1,000 fine but no jail time.

My wife says this affects patrons too. True or no? How can I eat with a mask on? Never mind, I refuse to be forced to wear one. Call me crazy.

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On 6/23/2020 at 2:35 PM, PhatMack19 said:

Branick is following the lead of the big cities.  They figured out the govt can’t force people to wear them, but they can force the businesses to require them.  Not sure what 6 days is going to do

 

 

BREAKING: Jefferson County Judge Jeff Branick says he'll require all businesses that provide goods and services to require masks beginning June 24-June 30. Businesses could face penalties if there are violations.  Up to a $1,000 fine but no jail time.

they have set these business up for failure.

if you don't make your customers wear a mask they will fine you.

if a customer tells you he has a health problem and can't/will not wear a mask and you deny him service based on their health issue.  you have set yourself up for a very big law suit.

stores are in a no win situation.  people are going to other counties to shop so they are also losing revenue during this time

these judges are brain surgeons..............

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Not my post, but sharing! 

For all you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid 🤦🏼‍♀️). I know I’m about to burst your “google doctor degree” bubble, but here goes nothing.

So Masks?
I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I want to cover 3 things
• N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
• surgical masks
• filter or cloth masks

Okay, so upon further inspection, OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.

• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).

• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment.”

• Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this, but here it goes. Today, three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.

-Ultimate Answer: 

*N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.

*The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, (Like a vacuum bag, it only works one way) but likely stops after 20 minutes, rendering it useless outside of a STERILE ENVIRONMENT (correct Becky, they don’t work in a bar, not even a little bit).

*Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.

The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda. For the love of God, research each mask’s designed use and purpose, I bet you will find NONE are used in the way of “viral defense.”

Just like EVERY Flu season kids, wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Sanitize your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, & I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons to keep your distance and work on body hygiene. But trust me, the masks do not work.

*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.

I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”

If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense. Don’t drink the kool-aid.

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