WOSdrummer99 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 16 hours ago, WOSgrad said: I was that administrator and here is why. After our conversation, I reached out to several of my journalism friends in Orange, including Gary Stelly at KOGT, who assured me that, at that time, they had received no directive from the WO-C CISD to avoid calling the Mustang defense the Chain Gang. Thus, this would have been pursuing a topic in open forum about an action that the school district that had not taken. I have much respect for you and your work here. But now I'm thinking I should have started the discussion. Maybe we could have had an impact on the unfortunate course events. No point in crying over spilt milk. Still wondering who came up with the new name? DonTheCon2k20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wo-s#1 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: This may end up like nascar. Where something was banned, but then it all around the game. Plenty of private property on newton st. I bet there will be a sign somewhere. Great idea thanks...I live close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wo-s#1 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: I have much respect for you and your work here. But now I'm thinking I should have started the discussion. Maybe we could have had an impact on the unfortunate course events. No point in crying over spilt milk. Still wondering who came up with the new name? I heard who provided the name but not sure if it’s true...I’m more curious who started this political crap at home! NetCat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Ever since I can remember, the chain gang defense was a title of honor, pride and an achievement all the defensive players strive to live up to. Now it's a disrespectful title. Times are a changin'. wo-s#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said: I heard who provided the name but not sure if it’s true...I’m more curious who started this political crap at home! I'm not on fakebook, but I've been told that this has been a sour subject on there for years. I'm sure it will come out soon. Let's hope that there isn't more fallout over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aTmfan06 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Name change is dumb, but I like the class part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 I'm sorry but blue link is going to remind me of Zelda or powder powder puff Blue...thats not what I think when someone says WO-S defense. Change the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said: I am curious about something. Will I be fined if I make the mistake of calling them Chain Gang in my broadcast? Certainly not. It’s a school district attempting to do some sort of good. Whatever that means. I would think, though, if you have to get permission from the school to broadcast their game, and you continually and purposefully do it, they may not allow you to be the broadcaster of the game anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said: I am curious about something. Will I be fined if I make the mistake of calling them Chain Gang in my broadcast? I encourage everyone to keep calling it the Chain Gang! This touchy-feely has gone a bit too far. i wonder what Dan Hooks thinks about this? aTmfan06 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said: I have much respect for you and your work here. But now I'm thinking I should have started the discussion. Maybe we could have had an impact on the unfortunate course events. No point in crying over spilt milk. Still wondering who came up with the new name? I read an article that had Coach Thompson coming up with the name. Apparently wanted to pair with the offense name that's called Silver O. I didn't even know the offense had a name behind it. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up WOSdrummer99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAGLEFOREVER Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Dooms Day, my buddy would love it (he hates the cowboys) Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, Reagan said: I encourage everyone to keep calling it the Chain Gang! This touchy-feely has gone a bit too far. i wonder what Dan Hooks thinks about this? He probably thinks.....and I imagine that Cornel Thompson thinks the same......that they don't give a rat's rear end of what their defense is called. As long as they work, they hit and they pursue. As far as your suggestion, no, no and no. I am going to treat the WO-C CISD changing the name of the Mustang defense the same as I did when Beaumont ISD named their football stadium the Carroll A. "Butch" Thomas Educational Support Center and when they changed it Beaumont ISD Memorial Stadium. I will abide by the actions of a duly selected board of trustees' decision even though I may not agree with it. I have seen enough opinions of folks I grew up with and have respect for who have a beef with the name. While I disagree that they should, the angst is widespread enough as to indicate that it is not just the view of a loud few. So, in official written content, I will not refer to the Mustang defense as "The Chain Gang" choosing probably just to refer to the Mustang defense as simply that, the Mustang defense. For as Shakespeare once wrote; "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet..." And that which we call a Mustang defense by any other name is just as nasty. SmashMouth, Mr. Buddy Garrity, WOSdrummer99 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 As a proud member of BLM, I applaud the end of this racist moniker. I also feel like those championship banners also harken back to a time when racism was rampant throughout southeast Texas, and they should be removed as well. ALSO, the Mustang is the name of a type of horse ridden by indigenous people (Indians/Native Americans) prior to the racist white people stole their land and banished them to eternal poverty on reservations. This also is blatant dog-whistle racism. We, BLM, also strongly object to the use of this mascot as it is both offensive to our Indigenous Brothers and horses in general. Finally, we object to the colors Silver and Blue. These are the colors of the Dallas Cowboys, and an obvious tribute to these white men who massacred our Indigenous Brothers and even went as far as sexually mutilating male cattle. This is offensive to our LGTBQ community. As such, the colors must be removed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: As a proud member of BLM, I applaud the end of this racist moniker. I also feel like those championship banners also harken back to a time when racism was rampant throughout southeast Texas, and they should be removed as well. ALSO, the Mustang is the name of a type of horse ridden by indigenous people (Indians/Native Americans) prior to the racist white people stole their land and banished them to eternal poverty on reservations. This also is blatant dog-whistle racism. We, BLM, also strongly object to the use of this mascot as it is both offensive to our Indigenous Brothers and horses in general. Finally, we object to the colors Silver and Blue. These are the colors of the Dallas Cowboys, and an obvious tribute to these white men who massacred our Indigenous Brothers and even went as far as sexually mutilating male cattle. This is offensive to our LGTBQ community. As such, the colors must be removed as well. My words for this cannot be posted here. U heard? Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Everything is under attack right now. Especially something with a negative history. People on both sides dont understand or accept that words and phrases can evolve. And in order for it to evolve, it should be used in a positive way. Like our chain gang has. Only once do I remember someone using it to slur our team. Now that I've read all the post, I think it was even more meaningful, intimidating, and respected than we realized. Bottom line... I'll continue to support the kids and the program at all costs. No matter what they want to be called. CardinalBacker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: indigenous people (Indians/Native Americans) prior to the racist white people stole their land and banished them to eternal poverty on reservations. Our purple friends to the west sure are quiet. They should be next on your list to criticize. CardinalBacker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realville Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: As a proud member of BLM, I applaud the end of this racist moniker. I also feel like those championship banners also harken back to a time when racism was rampant throughout southeast Texas, and they should be removed as well. ALSO, the Mustang is the name of a type of horse ridden by indigenous people (Indians/Native Americans) prior to the racist white people stole their land and banished them to eternal poverty on reservations. This also is blatant dog-whistle racism. We, BLM, also strongly object to the use of this mascot as it is both offensive to our Indigenous Brothers and horses in general. Finally, we object to the colors Silver and Blue. These are the colors of the Dallas Cowboys, and an obvious tribute to these white men who massacred our Indigenous Brothers and even went as far as sexually mutilating male cattle. This is offensive to our LGTBQ community. As such, the colors must be removed as well. I guess it’s only fair that the manufactured and selective outrage be shared by all for all. I mean we wouldn’t want to be hypocrites would we. Maybe we should all become monks and live in a monastery. Good Grief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, Realville said: I guess it’s only fair that the manufactured and selective outrage be shared by all for all. I mean we wouldn’t want to be hypocrites would we. Maybe we should all become monks and live in a monastery. Good Grief! I'm just waiting on the SJW's to go after the PN-G mascot again because it's racially insensitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, NHSBulldogFan said: I'm just waiting on the SJW's to go after the PN-G mascot again because it's racially insensitive Evadale is just over there wishing somebody would.. Boneyard Boys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realville Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: I'm just waiting on the SJW's to go after the PN-G mascot again because it's racially insensitive Like I said Manufactured And Selective Outrage. NHSBulldogFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 I just wish it would all end. The fact that Port Neches kids dress up like Indians and go to war at the reservation. Not a big deal for me. The fact that the Evadale Rebels are right up the road. Not a big deal for me. The fact that the Chain Gang wants to be called Blue Link. Still not a big deal. What IS a big deal to me is that there are no more choices. It’s “be PC” or you're a satan worshipping godless person who hates his own children. I won’t be judged like that. Let’s get a grip and keep living our lives. I’m so excited for the kids who get to play ball. I wish I still could. I’m not gonna detract or distract if possible as relates to a bunch of kids who wanna be athletes. All this crap is a bunch of BS, I agree. But starting today, I’m going to focus on the positive side. I hope we all do. NetCat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wo-s#1 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: I just wish it would all end. The fact that Port Neches kids dress up like Indians and go to war at the reservation. Not a big deal for me. The fact that the Evadale Rebels are right up the road. Not a big deal for me. The fact that the Chain Gang wants to be called Blue Link. Still not a big deal. What IS a big deal to me is that there are no more choices. It’s “be PC” or you're a satan worshipping godless person who hates his own children. I won’t be judged like that. Let’s get a grip and keep living our lives. I’m so excited for the kids who get to play ball. I wish I still could. I’m not gonna detract or distract if possible as relates to a bunch of kids who wanna be athletes. All this crap is a bunch of BS, I agree. But starting today, I’m going to focus on the positive side. I hope we all do. Look at there we agree on something...I’m with you,it’s pretty ridiculous! SmashMouth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said: Look at there we agree on something...I’m with you,it’s pretty ridiculous! Speaking of banned the nfl and college football stadiums may not be available to high school games. They wanted keep all outside events out of the stadiums if there is a season. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said: Evadale is just over there wishing somebody would.. If they couldn't change Midland Lee's mascot name Evadale has nothing to be worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, NHSBulldogFan said: I'm just waiting on the SJW's to go after the PN-G mascot again because it's racially insensitive Didn't they recently have the blessings from an Indian tribe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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