SmashMouth Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Kountzer said: higher standards, morals, scruples. There are scores, thousands of damaged former choir boys who would beg to differ. The pope did all that? Was it only choir boys? Is it just Catholics? Do you have an axe to grind? Hagar 1 Quote
Hagar Posted July 11, 2020 Author Report Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Kountzer said: There are all sorts of anti adventists out there. I've seen stuff like that for the last 20 years or more. I know this: you gotta study and believe what you know. If you are truly trying to follow Christ you are going to run into opposition. They said Jesus was in league with the devil. Said he was a false messiah. They killed him for it. The same will happen to his followers. So since you’re opposed to the Catholic Church, then you’re the opposition they run into. Since they’re followers of Christ, and you’re the opposition, does that make your denomination the Anti-Christ? And Catholics killed Christ? Holy Moly, you really are out there. I don’t know why you have to denigrate other Christian denominations. Does it make you feel better than them? Put you first? I don’t think denomination is going to be what gets someone to heaven, do you? Are you of the belief that only Seventh Day Adventist will go to heaven? NetCat 1 Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 The controversial quote from the current Pope saying that Jesus Christ sinned, that quote is common knowledge. It made headlines all oVER the world. It did not happen yesterday or the day before. That came out a few years ago. I checked a few catholic publications and they never denied the quote was made. They put a spin on it, but they never outright denied that it was said. Nowhere did I state that catholics killed Christ. Where did you get that from? I don't think the church existed then. The Roman government was involved, that is history. You took it upon yourself to denigrate Don Lemon. I suggested that Don Lemon got his idea that Christ was not perfect from the Pope. Maybe he is a catholic. IDK. The Pope did say that Christ was a sinner. That is common knowledge. Read the news. That particular truth is out there. Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 You do realize that the Roman catholic church has hidden things from public knowledge for centuries. Their vast underground archives have long been the topic of debate and wonder. Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: You do realize that the Roman catholic church has hidden things from public knowledge for centuries. Their vast underground archives have long been the topic of debate and wonder. That is an understatement. WOSdrummer99 and 5GallonBucket 2 Quote
baddog Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 Everything and everyone in the world has “secrets”. Quote
Hagar Posted July 11, 2020 Author Report Posted July 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, baddog said: Everything and everyone in the world has “secrets”. 😄 +1,000,000 Quote
Hagar Posted July 11, 2020 Author Report Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Kountzer said: The controversial quote from the current Pope saying that Jesus Christ sinned, that quote is common knowledge. It made headlines all oVER the world. It did not happen yesterday or the day before. That came out a few years ago. I checked a few catholic publications and they never denied the quote was made. They put a spin on it, but they never outright denied that it was said. Nowhere did I state that catholics killed Christ. Where did you get that from? I don't think the church existed then. The Roman government was involved, that is history. You took it upon yourself to denigrate Don Lemon. I suggested that Don Lemon got his idea that Christ was not perfect from the Pope. Maybe he is a catholic. IDK. The Pope did say that Christ was a sinner. That is common knowledge. Read the news. That particular truth is out there. Where did I post anything derogatory about Don Lemon, except jokingly that he had the same name as a Cleveland Indian pitcher? One thing I make every effort not to do is put down other Christian denominations, which you do often. Btw, I’ll ask again, is denomination going to get you into heaven? Are Seventh Day Adventist the only ones who will be saved? Answer that and I’ll consider this discussion over, for my part. Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Hagar said: Where did I post anything derogatory about Don Lemon, except jokingly that he had the same name as a Cleveland Indian pitcher? One thing I make every effort not to do is put down other Christian denominations, which you do often. Btw, I’ll ask again, is denomination going to get you into heaven? Are Seventh Day Adventist the only ones who will be saved? Answer that and I’ll consider this discussion over, for my part. If the Pope did not want people to know he said that Jesus failed at the cross, or that he sinned then he should not have said it. I can't read his mind. I did not make that stuff up. It is common knowledge. Quote
NetCat Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kountzer said: If the Pope did not want people to know he said that Jesus failed at the cross, or that he sinned then he should not have said it. I can't read his mind. I did not make that stuff up. It is common knowledge. Just going to ignore @Hagar's question? Hagar 1 Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, NetCat said: Just going to ignore @Hagar's question? I might, what's it to you? Quote
NetCat Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Kountzer said: I might, what's it to you? We all want to hear your answer Quote
Hagar Posted July 11, 2020 Author Report Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Kountzer said: If the Pope did not want people to know he said that Jesus failed at the cross, or that he sinned then he should not have said it. I can't read his mind. I did not make that stuff up. It is common knowledge. I finally got a chance to watch your video. The Pope didn’t say Jesus sinned, the commmentator, aka Spin Doctor, did. The Pope said his parents where upset with him from hiding in the Temple and not joining them on the caravan. Does it mean a child has sinned just because the parents got upset with them? My two kids were big sinners then, lol. And since you won’t answer the question I ask, but simply want to disparage other denominations, I’ll take that as a Yes, only Seventh Day Adventist will go to heaven. I would ask you to read The Bible for your own understanding, lest ye be lead down the wrong path by others, as we all should. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 I’ll answer...absolutely not, the SDA will not be the only ones that are saved. Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hagar said: I finally got a chance to watch your video. The Pope didn’t say Jesus sinned, the commmentator, aka Spin Doctor, did. The Pope said his parents where upset with him from hiding in the Temple and not joining them on the caravan. Does it mean a child has sinned just because the parents got upset with them? My two kids were big sinners then, lol. And since you won’t answer the question I ask, but simply want to disparage other denominations, I’ll take that as a Yes, only Seventh Day Adventist will go to heaven. I would ask you to read The Bible for your own understanding, lest ye be lead down the wrong path by others, as we all should. "Jesus probably had to beg forgiveness of his parents." The Pope said Jesus needed to beg forgiveness of his parents . You only beg forgiveness if you have done something wrong. Ergo the Pope is saying that Jesus sinned. There are all sorts of quotes where he insinuates that Jesus is less than perfect. Besides that, you twist and manipulate words. That's the MO here. Which is why I don't answer. You just side around, feeling all pious & holy because you consider yourself conservative and above reproach. Quote
NetCat Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kountzer said: "Jesus probably had to beg forgiveness of his parents." The Pope said Jesus needed to beg forgiveness of his parents . You only beg forgiveness if you have done something wrong. Ergo the Pope is saying that Jesus sinned. There are all sorts of quotes where he insinuates that Jesus is less than perfect. Besides that, you twist and manipulate words. That's the MO here. Which is why I don't answer. You just side around, feeling all pious & holy because you consider yourself conservative and above reproach. Did you not just twist and manipulate the Pope's words? Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, NetCat said: Did you not just twist and manipulate the Pope's words? If you didn't spend so much time on this board playing silly games you could see it for yourself. Quote
NetCat Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 Just now, Kountzer said: If you didn't spend so much time on this board playing silly games you could see it for yourself. How about read some of my posts before making accusations? Lol you're kind of full of yourself. Quote
NetCat Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kountzer said: If you didn't spend so much time on this board playing silly games you could see it for yourself. And once again, you didn't answer the question. Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, NetCat said: How about read some of my posts before making accusations? Lol you're kind of full of yourself. If you weren't so stupid I would read your posts. Quote
NetCat Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kountzer said: If you weren't so stupid I would read your posts. Wow Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, NetCat said: And once again, you didn't answer the question. What makes you or this board or anyone here so important that I got to answer? Quote
NetCat Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kountzer said: If you weren't so stupid I would read your posts. Heck, tell me how you really feel. Quote
Kountzer Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, NetCat said: Wow dig it. Quote
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