SmashMouth Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Setx fan said: If that works for you Don’t give up that easy. Tell him how the two can be separate or simply agree. Don’t just roll over. Apparently it doesn’t work for you. So why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Don’t give up that easy. Tell him how the two can be separate or simply agree. Don’t just roll over. Apparently it doesn’t work for you. So why not? What he said didn’t even make sense. It’s a waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Setx fan said: What he said didn’t even make sense. It’s a waste of time Which means you don’t have a good answer. ‘Nuff said. Setx fan and LumRaiderFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Setx fan said: If that works for you See if this works for you: Can you separate the KKK organization from the KKK movement (members)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 1:39 PM, Setx fan said: Him being armed sounds like he had no good intentions from the beginning. Was George Zimmerman a caucasian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Reagan said: See if this works for you: Can you separate the KKK organization from the KKK movement (members)? What’s the KKK movement about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, stevenash said: Was George Zimmerman a caucasian? Of course not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Setx fan said: If that works for you Well, we've been unable to separate people who are proud of their Southern Heritage from White Supremacists, so...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, CardinalBacker said: Well, we've been unable to separate people who are proud of their Southern Heritage from White Supremacists, so...... How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Setx fan said: How so? Everyone's favorite 69 Charger, the General Lee, as one teeny, tiny example. If I say "yeah, my great-great grandfather was a Godly man, a timber man, the third Sheriff of Beauregard Parish, Louisiana, and a Major in the Confederate Army," guess what?....he was a white supremacist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Setx fan said: Of course not Obviously, it does not fit the narrative by virtue of that fact. Do you think that cities named Lynchburg should change their names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, CardinalBacker said: Everyone's favorite 69 Charger, the General Lee, as one teeny, tiny example. If I say "yeah, my great-great grandfather was a Godly man, a timber man, the third Sheriff of Beauregard Parish, Louisiana, and a Major in the Confederate Army," guess what?....he was a white supremacist. Wouldn’t want to take anything from your grandfather. Sounds like he’s a good man. But if he fought in the Confederate Army chances are he was a white supremacist. One of the main goals of Confederacy was to keep blacks in their place. Blacks were seen as 2/3 of a human amongst the confederacy and their goal was to keep it that way. I’m not holding it against your grandfather because I know that was the norm back then. But I find it strange that you would be proud of that part of his legacy in these modern times. My suggestion would be that you continue to hold your grandfather in high regards as a hard working, godly guy who upheld the law as a sheriff. If you want to be proud of his membership in the confederate army knowing what you know about it in these modern times I have to question that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, stevenash said: Obviously, it does not fit the narrative by virtue of that fact. Do you think that cities named Lynchburg should change their names? 1. What narrative? 2. I don’t care about cities changing their names but it’s hilarious how upset you guys get about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 SETX FAN: Is this incident somehow founded in racism? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Should I sale my Dixie chopper ridding mower? many of my clients are black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said: Should I sale my Dixie chopper ridding mower? many of my clients are black. That’s between you and them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, stevenash said: SETX FAN: Is this incident somehow founded in racism? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I don’t know nothing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Setx fan said: Wouldn’t want to take anything from your grandfather. Sounds like he’s a good man. But if he fought in the Confederate Army chances are he was a white supremacist. One of the main goals of Confederacy was to keep blacks in their place. Blacks were seen as 2/3 of a human amongst the confederacy and their goal was to keep it that way. I’m not holding it against your grandfather because I know that was the norm back then. But I find it strange that you would be proud of that part of his legacy in these modern times. My suggestion would be that you continue to hold your grandfather in high regards as a hard working, godly guy who upheld the law as a sheriff. If you want to be proud of his membership in the confederate army knowing what you know about it in these modern times I have to question that. Oh, that wasn't my great-great grandfather... mine was probably a wine-headed woman fighter. It's not that simple. I realize that from the safety that comes from living in 2020, it's easy to look at grand motives, etc... you don't have to worry about what would happen if you chose not to stand with your neighbors. People who refused to side with the colonists in the 1770s didn't have it easy. Same thing happened in the Civil War. Let's just pretend that you were a Southerner who was opposed to slavery and refused to support the new government. Would you abandon all that you'd worked for and move north? Would you fight against your friends and family? Do you think Sherman spared abolitionists' places during his march to the sea? Why should I be ashamed if my ancestor picked up arms to defend his home from an invading army? Or held off the Yankee warships with three cannons at Sabine Pass? Or ran out of ammunition at Lookout Mountain and pushed boulders down on the Yankees until they were overrun and killed? Or fought bravely and then died against immeasurable odds at the Alamo? Or lost a boxing match? There's a reason we still cheer for the fighter who gave his all and came up short.... Or at least we used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: Oh, that wasn't my great-great grandfather... mine was probably a wine-headed woman fighter. It's not that simple. I realize that from the safety that comes from living in 2020, it's easy to look at grand motives, etc... you don't have to worry about what would happen if you chose not to stand with your neighbors. People who refused to side with the colonists in the 1770s didn't have it easy. Same thing happened in the Civil War. Let's just pretend that you were a Southerner who was opposed to slavery and refused to support the new government. Would you abandon all that you'd worked for and move north? Would you fight against your friends and family? Do you think Sherman spared abolitionists' places during his march to the sea? Why should I be ashamed if my ancestor picked up arms to defend his home from an invading army? Or held off the Yankee warships with three cannons at Sabine Pass? Or ran out of ammunition at Lookout Mountain and pushed boulders down on the Yankees until they were overrun and killed? Or fought bravely and then died against immeasurable odds at the Alamo? Or lost a boxing match? There's a reason we still cheer for the fighter who gave his all and came up short.... Or at least we used to. I took all those factors in consideration. Never said you should be ashamed. I said you shouldn’t be proud of which side he fought on. Meaning you shouldn’t be waiving a confederate flag around like it’s some great thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Setx fan said: I took all those factors in consideration. Never said you should be ashamed. I said you shouldn’t be proud of which side he fought on. Meaning you shouldn’t be waiving a confederate flag around like it’s some great thing. Are you offended by the flags of African countries, or even seeing the shape of Africa posted with all of the violence and genocide that occurred there and is still ongoing today? It blows my mind that someone who prefers to be called "African-American" would even examine other peoples' history... I mean I really, really don't get it. I'm not talking about you specifically... but think about it. You have people who proudly claim African heritage in spite of all of the atrocities committed there.... but they are offended by people who claim Southern Heritage. Why would anybody who is so soundly opposed to any references to slavery still identify themselves as "african american," the birthplace of the African slave trade and one of the few continents where slavery still exists today? I'm not knocking your heritage, your choice of labels, or anything like that.... you need to do what makes you happy and proud.... as you should be. My opinion isn't needed. But.... that's kinda how I feel when people who aren't like me start talking about who I am and where I come from. It's really not their concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: Are you offended by the flags of African countries, or even seeing the shape of Africa posted with all of the violence and genocide that occurred there and is still ongoing today? It blows my mind that someone who prefers to be called "African-American" would even examine other peoples' history... I mean I really, really don't get it. I'm not talking about you specifically... but think about it. You have people who proudly claim African heritage in spite of all of the atrocities committed there.... but they are offended by people who claim Southern Heritage. Why would anybody who is so soundly opposed to any references to slavery still identify themselves as "african american," the birthplace of the African slave trade and one of the few continents where slavery still exists today? I'm not knocking your heritage, your choice of labels, or anything like that.... you need to do what makes you happy and proud.... as you should be. My opinion isn't needed. But.... that's kinda how I feel when people who aren't like me start talking about who I am and where I come from. It's really not their concern. Africa is still Africa. I wouldn’t be able to identify an African flag if I seen one lol. But it wouldn’t bother me at all if those countries are still up and running and weren’t defeated for the freedom of my people. Some people trace our heritage back to Africa but I actually think our heritage goes beyond that CardinalBacker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Wildcats Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Setx fan said: Africa is still Africa. I wouldn’t be able to identify an African flag if I seen one lol. But it wouldn’t bother me at all if those countries are still up and running and weren’t defeated for the freedom of my people. Some people trace our heritage back to Africa but I actually think our heritage goes beyond that I would say everybody’s heritage dates back to Noah and his family. Law Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Setx fan said: I don’t know nothing about it. You do now but you wont comment about it because it goes against the narrative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, BS Wildcats said: I would say everybody’s heritage dates back to Noah and his family. Right. All nations come from one man. Acts 17:26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, stevenash said: You do now but you wont comment about it because it goes against the narrative What narrative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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