Reagan Posted August 7, 2020 Report Posted August 7, 2020 PamFam -- you paying attention?! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Posted August 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Reagan said: PamFam -- you paying attention?! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Since when has PAMFAM ever been a Democrat? Quote
5GallonBucket Posted August 7, 2020 Report Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said: Since when has PAMFAM ever been a Democrat? Well on numerous occasions “Biden 2020” does that ring a bell. The liberal party and Conservative party is so far from each other so if you vote for the liberal party it pretty much means you align with liberal views. common sense. Hagar 1 Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: Well on numerous occasions “Biden 2020” does that ring a bell. The liberal party and Conservative party is so far from each other so if you vote for the liberal party it pretty much means you align with liberal views. common sense. That’s your way of thinking... why was trump the nominee other than Cruz. Because Cruz is the more conservative. I can name a handful of republicans I’ll vote in over Biden. Trump just ain’t one. Quote
CardinalBacker Posted August 7, 2020 Report Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said: That’s your way of thinking... why was trump the nominee other than Cruz. Because Cruz is the more conservative. I can name a handful of republicans I’ll vote in over Biden. Trump just ain’t one. I thought that Trump was probably about the 15th best candidate at that first Republican debate in the summer of '15. Quote
5GallonBucket Posted August 7, 2020 Report Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said: That’s your way of thinking... why was trump the nominee other than Cruz. Because Cruz is the more conservative. I can name a handful of republicans I’ll vote in over Biden. Trump just ain’t one. Ur logic still makes no sense. but you could write in a candidate or just not vote.(I did that in 2008) if your not a democrat 5 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said: Since when has PAMFAM ever been a Democrat? then what are you? cause you can’t call yourself a conservative if your voting for Biden which is a democrat and is a very liberal party. Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 12 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: Ur logic still makes no sense. but you could write in a candidate or just not vote.(I did that in 2008) if your not a democrat then what are you? cause you can’t call yourself a conservative if your voting for Biden which is a democrat and is a very liberal party. I’m not a conservative. You can be a American citizen with no affiliation to either party. I’m voting on what I believe is best. If that makes me a liberal in your eyes so be it. Quote
Reagan Posted August 8, 2020 Author Report Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said: I’m not a conservative. You can be a American citizen with no affiliation to either party. I’m voting on what I believe is best. If that makes me a liberal in your eyes so be it. You are right about party affiliation. It's basically one's ideology that either fits inside a certain party or it doesn't. So, with that being said, if your ideology makes you vote for a racist (check Biden's past if you want to be honest about this) and socialist (Biden), well, then, you are a socialist and OK with racist behavior. I'll ask the salient question: Why would a non-liberal, non-socialist find this appealing to vote for?! 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said: I’m not a conservative. You can be a American citizen with no affiliation to either party. I’m voting on what I believe is best. If that makes me a liberal in your eyes so be it. Is killing a baby evil? Is supporting people in power who kills a baby evil? It’s a yes or no question. Quote
CardinalBacker Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Reagan said: You are right about party affiliation. It's basically one's ideology that either fits inside a certain party or it doesn't. So, with that being said, if your ideology makes you vote for a racist (check Biden's past if you want to be honest about this) and socialist (Biden), well, then, you are a socialist and OK with racist behavior. I'll ask the salient question: Why would a non-liberal, non-socialist find this appealing to vote for?! And sometimes people just vote against a particular candidate for any number of reasons. And that’s okay. A politician has to do two things really well. He has to make it really hard to vote for the other guy and really easy to vote for himself. Trump is pretty good at the first and really bad at the second. Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Reagan said: You are right about party affiliation. It's basically one's ideology that either fits inside a certain party or it doesn't. So, with that being said, if your ideology makes you vote for a racist (check Biden's past if you want to be honest about this) and socialist (Biden), well, then, you are a socialist and OK with racist behavior. I'll ask the salient question: Why would a non-liberal, non-socialist find this appealing to vote for?! Trump Quote
stevenash Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 43 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said: Trump What policies has Trump instituted that makes you dislike him so much? Quote
CardinalBacker Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, stevenash said: What policies has Trump instituted that makes you dislike him so much? What’s the point of arguing this? It’s entirely possible that PamFam just dislikes Biden the least. It’s okay. Personally, I wouldn’t vote for Trump if there was any other viable option. He’s a jerk, but that’s kinda excusable if things are rocking. When things are going badly (like now), all you’re left with is a jerk. Pretending that Trump is sent here by God himself to save us from certain destruction isn’t a pitch that moderates and undecideds want to hear. Even conservatives with half a brain don’t want to hear it, either. I admire that Trump donates his salary. I like that he at least listens to Christian social concerns. I like that he stands up to a hostile liberal media. I think he’s a terrible leader and an inept politician. He’s done less to unite us than Obama did. Anybody that believes Trump wasn’t elected with an “it’s us against them” platform isn’t being honest with themselves. The guy is divisive, period. TxHoops and NetCat 2 Quote
Realville Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, stevenash said: What policies has Trump instituted that makes you dislike him so much? He can’t answer that question. He just doesn’t like how Trump went about getting things done for the American people. Trump has hurt his feelings. Biden is the gift that keeps on Giving! I LOVE WHEN BIDEN SPEAKS! Quote
stevenash Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said: What’s the point of arguing this? It’s entirely possible that PamFam just dislikes Biden the least. It’s okay. Personally, I wouldn’t vote for Trump if there was any other viable option. He’s a jerk, but that’s kinda excusable if things are rocking. When things are going badly (like now), all you’re left with is a jerk. Pretending that Trump is sent here by God himself to save us from certain destruction isn’t a pitch that moderates and undecideds want to hear. Even conservatives with half a brain don’t want to hear it, either. I admire that Trump donates his salary. I like that he at least listens to Christian social concerns. I like that he stands up to a hostile liberal media. I think he’s a terrible leader and an inept politician. He’s done less to unite us than Obama did. Anybody that believes Trump wasn’t elected with an “it’s us against them” platform isn’t being honest with themselves. The guy is divisive, period. My perception is that Obama's method of "management" is what got Trump elected. There is plenty I don't like about Trump as an individual. But I was so tired of highly polished speakers having no other capabilities. I have said this before but I want to restate it for illustrative purposes. There was plenty about Bobby Knight that I found abrasive and unbecoming, but I never, ever doubted his competence as a coach. I would also suggest that Mr. Trump is probably the only President in modern history who will leave the office with a net worth of somewhat less than when he started. Realville 1 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, stevenash said: My perception is that Obama's method of "management" is what got Trump elected. There is plenty I don't like about Trump as an individual. But I was so tired of highly polished speakers having no other capabilities. I have said this before but I want to restate it for illustrative purposes. There was plenty about Bobby Knight that I found abrasive and unbecoming, but I never, ever doubted his competence as a coach. I would also suggest that Mr. Trump is probably the only President in modern history who will leave the office with a net worth of somewhat less than when he started. That’s the whole thing. Would Bobby Knight have made a good President? He was about as qualified as Trump and equally experienced. But there would still be people screaming about how Bobby Knight was the best President ever. Just like the ones that say Trump (or Obama) was the best ever. What they should be saying is “my favorite President, ever.” That’s a little more accurate. Quote
Realville Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: That’s the whole thing. Would Bobby Knight have made a good President? He was about as qualified as Trump and equally experienced. But there would still be people screaming about how Bobby Knight was the best President ever. Just like the ones that say Trump (or Obama) was the best ever. What they should be saying is “my favorite President, ever.” That’s a little more accurate. I just look at his accomplishments since he’s been in office. All the rest is fluff that don’t get caught in. Trump sits down with the good, the bad and the ugly to listen to their perspectives. He’s exposed a lot of people and media with bad intentions for this country. Quote
myrecordwashorrible Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 What makes a candidate qualified? Truly curious. Holding other elected offices? Quote
stevenash Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, myrecordwashorrible said: What makes a candidate qualified? Truly curious. Holding other elected offices? Again, my personal perception is that spending a number of years operating businesses successfully has more relevance to operating a country than being a community organizer and one term senator. One other additional item, when Mr. Trump speaks ( like his method or not) it is not difficult to know where he stands. I cannot say the same for any of his predecessors Quote
myrecordwashorrible Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 Great minds think alike and somehow Stevenash and I do as well. Oops, I used sarcasm. I am not sure that's allowed in our society anymore. Quote
stevenash Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, myrecordwashorrible said: Great minds think alike and somehow Stevenash and I do as well. Oops, I used sarcasm. I am not sure that's allowed in our society anymore. Sir, that type of sarcasm is offensive to the snowflakes. You need to provide them with a safe space. Quote
myrecordwashorrible Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 You may enjoy the fact that I work in a place where we instruct the young people that there are no safe spaces. Quote
baddog Posted August 8, 2020 Report Posted August 8, 2020 I feel safe behind my .357 magnum. Reagan 1 Quote
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