Hagar Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 There’s been serious problems there for several years. Doesn’t appear things have gotten any better. But hey, if the folks of K’ville are happy, I’m happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAGLEFOREVER Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 yes, it's you can't work little Johnny that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makemineaconvertible Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 There’s probably over 200 or so boys in high school and last I counted there were 35 on the field. Looks like we will just field a varsity this year. No way you can have a JV. There is more that try out for tennis and softball than football. Kids are lazy they’d rather play PS 4 all day and night. Needs to be roaming the band hall and tennis courts looking for warm bodies to plug in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetCat Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, Makemineaconvertible said: There’s probably over 200 or so boys in high school and last I counted there were 35 on the field. Looks like we will just field a varsity this year. No way you can have a JV. There is more that try out for tennis and softball than football. Kids are lazy they’d rather play PS 4 all day and night. Needs to be roaming the band hall and tennis courts looking for warm bodies to plug in I know this is true to some extent, but look at other programs around the state. We have a very low participation percentage compared to almost anyone else around here. Something isn't right... Godzilla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo1734 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 I've seen some comments on here saying Jones "bit off too much", and "I haven't heard anything good." If "biting off too much" means holding young men accountable, and EXPECTING them to work hard everyday is "biting off too much" then so be it. If "not hearing anything good" means little Johnny's parents are pissed off because Coach Jones is mean and requires too much of little Johnny then so be it. It's a shame people act this way when someone in charge expects something of them or their children. hoops784 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 hours ago, gogo1734 said: I've seen some comments on here saying Jones "bit off too much", and "I haven't heard anything good." If "biting off too much" means holding young men accountable, and EXPECTING them to work hard everyday is "biting off too much" then so be it. If "not hearing anything good" means little Johnny's parents are pissed off because Coach Jones is mean and requires too much of little Johnny then so be it. It's a shame people act this way when someone in charge expects something of them or their children. Or...it could be that he hasn’t done a very good job. It’s oft times good to look at both sides. A good coach can have high expectations AND make the kids and parents like it. Maybe he’s just not good at that. NetCat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo1734 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Or...it could be that he hasn’t done a very good job. It’s oft times good to look at both sides. A good coach can have high expectations AND make the kids and parents like it. Maybe he’s just not good at that. That's certainly a possibility. However, the majority of complaints I've heard about Jones are: 1. He expects too much. 2. He's too hard on the kids. Also, Kirbyville hasn't had much talent in the last few years. That's certainly part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, gogo1734 said: That's certainly a possibility. However, the majority of complaints I've heard about Jones are: 1. He expects too much. 2. He's too hard on the kids. Also, Kirbyville hasn't had much talent in the last few years. That's certainly part of it. No doubt. I just know as a kid that played HS and college football, and coached at levels from pee wee to college as a GA, that even the toughest SOB can make a group of kids go to war for him if he does it right. Maybe he doesn’t possess that skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo1734 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, SmashMouth said: No doubt. I just know as a kid that played HS and college football, and coached at levels from pee wee to college as a GA, that even the toughest SOB can make a group of kids go to war for him if he does it right. Maybe he doesn’t possess that skill. There's definitely some sort of disconnect with the football kids for some reason. Baseball doesn't have a problem playing for him though. That's where it confuses me. I know football and baseball are two vastly different sports, but motivation and getting kids to play for you isn't any different between the two. (At least IMO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, gogo1734 said: There's definitely some sort of disconnect with the football kids for some reason. Baseball doesn't have a problem playing for him though. That's where it confuses me. I know football and baseball are two vastly different sports, but motivation and getting kids to play for you isn't any different between the two. (At least IMO) Correct!!! So, maybe he’s a baseball guy (like everyone keeps saying) and doesn’t put the same enthusiasm into football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makemineaconvertible Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Correct!!! So, maybe he’s a baseball guy (like everyone keeps saying) and doesn’t put the same enthusiasm into football. Football Head Coach is a full time 365 days a year job. A la Jack Alvarez and Greg Neece Mr. Buddy Garrity, NetCat and Uncle Pig 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Makemineaconvertible said: Football Head Coach is a full time 365 days a year job. A la Jack Alvarez and Greg Neece Agreed. You gotta want it, live it breathe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanMoJo Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 7:47 PM, WOSgrad said: I would love to be able to tell you, but I haven't received a response to ANY correspondence that I have sent Craig Jones since he became AD. Wow that is sad to see this!! This saddens a Coldspring Trojan Football fan. Kirbyville, use to be a football Mecca for small schools. We had an epic battle in 2010 with them en-route to the state championship game. Hope to see Wildcats get back on track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUDE Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, TrojanMoJo said: Wow that is sad to see this!! This saddens a Coldspring Trojan Football fan. Kirbyville, use to be a football Mecca for small schools. We had an epic battle in 2010 with them en-route to the state championship game. Hope to see Wildcats get back on track what is sad? jones is an old school type of guy and does things the right way. lots of people don't like the old school way is the problem i bet if you asked him he has never heard of these message boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, THE DUDE said: what is sad? jones is an old school type of guy and does things the right way. lots of people don't like the old school way is the problem i bet if you asked him he has never heard of these message boards. Dislike this message board? Possibly, and he wouldn't be the first. Never heard of it? I definitely know that is not the case. TrojanMoJo and Makemineaconvertible 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanMoJo Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, THE DUDE said: what is sad? jones is an old school type of guy and does things the right way. lots of people don't like the old school way is the problem i bet if you asked him he has never heard of these message boards. It is sad to see Kirbyville’s program going down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUDE Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, TrojanMoJo said: It is sad to see Kirbyville’s program going down they had gone down hill prior to jones arrival. TrojanMoJo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUDE Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, WOSgrad said: Dislike this message board? Possibly, and he wouldn't be the first. Never heard of it? I definitely know that is not the case. i am willing to bet he is not a big fan of any social media so i would not take it personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, THE DUDE said: i am willing to bet he is not a big fan of any social media so i would not take it personally. I don't. I am disappointed that I am not able to deliver information to the Kirbyville faithful. But I don't know the man and other than that I issue I have no problem with the man. As to his coaching chops, I will note that a lot of the Kirbyville faithful were wanting him to be named head coach when Greg Neece left for Newton and sung his praises right here. So while it might not be the case now, at the time several were quite impressed with his football coaching chops. Finally, he came to the Kirbyville job from WO-S and, well, Cornel Thompson is not one to put folks who can't coach on his coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 4 hours ago, THE DUDE said: jones is an old school type of guy and does things the right way. lots of people don't like the old school way is the problem i bet if you asked him he has never heard of these message boards. I'd bet his "message board" has a taped handle and lots of holes to reduce drag coefficient. glassjoe and Boneyard Boys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoopno1 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 I remember going to a Kirbyville scrimmage the year after Neece left and evaluating the kids. There were seven or eight people on the field who looked like stud athletes and the rest of the players on the field as well as the guys on the sidelines looked like they were 12 years old. Those kids are upperclassmen today. This was a year before Jones arrived. Jones is a pretty good coach. The team will get better in time. I think they will be better this year. Maybe not Newton but they will be better. I would not be surprised if the upcoming talent was not part of the reason that Neece left but I am sure he had other reasons too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makemineaconvertible Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 33 on the field this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetCat Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Makemineaconvertible said: 33 on the field this morning Not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Minutes Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Makemineaconvertible said: 33 on the field this morning I think the Kirbyville Pop Warner team has more than that NetCat, TrojanMoJo and Godzilla 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Cycle Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 6 hours ago, 9 Minutes said: I think the Kirbyville Pop Warner team has more than that That’s because everybody plays in daddy ball gogo1734, 9 Minutes and Godzilla 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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