DCTF Week 4 State Rankings

[gogo1734]

Just now, Makemineaconvertible said:

My point is they are not a top 5 team

Your point is moot. They played up in classification against a ranked team. It has no bearing on whether or not Newton could beat other teams in the top 5 of their own classification. 

[Makemineaconvertible]

So when WOS beats them by 50 are they still in the top 5? Next week vs Gilmer who will beat them by 40+ are they still top 5?

[gogo1734]

5 minutes ago, Makemineaconvertible said:

So when WOS beats them by 50 are they still in the top 5? Next week vs Gilmer who will beat them by 40+ are they still top 5?

I don't make the rankings, but apparently you are a fortune teller. No, if they get beat like that 3 weeks in a row they will probably not be in the top 5 any longer. However, none of those games have any bearing on how Newton would fare against the other teams ranked in the top 5 in Newton's classification. I'd say no 3A D2 team in the top 10 would do well against any of the teams Newton will play during this 3 week stretch. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

56 minutes ago, Makemineaconvertible said:

So when WOS beats them by 50 are they still in the top 5? Next week vs Gilmer who will beat them by 40+ are they still top 5?

Did I miss something here??

[WOSgrad]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Did I miss something here??

No, they play Kountze next week.

[Makemineaconvertible]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Did I miss something here??

No I just had a brain fart

[SmashMouth]

On 9/14/2020 at 4:12 PM, mrtomcat said:

who gave silsbee a loss to jasper ???

Jasper...

[WOSgrad]

1 hour ago, Makemineaconvertible said:

So when WOS beats them by 50 are they still in the top 5? Next week vs Gilmer who will beat them by 40+ are they still top 5?

To answer your question, a loss of any margin this week will probably knock Newton out of the Top 10.  Two loss teams, even when that team is Newton, is very rare in the rankings.

[SmashMouth]

1 hour ago, gogo1734 said:

I don't make the rankings, but apparently you are a fortune teller. No, if they get beat like that 3 weeks in a row they will probably not be in the top 5 any longer. However, none of those games have any bearing on how Newton would fare against the other teams ranked in the top 5 in Newton's classification. I'd say no 3A D2 team in the top 10 would do well against any of the teams Newton will play during this 3 week stretch. 

I’m not disagreeing with your logic, but what is their top 5 ranking based on if not the current game(s) played?

[WOSdrummer99]

30 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:

To answer your question, a loss of any margin this week will probably knock Newton out of the Top 10.  Two loss teams, even when that team is Newton, is very rare in the rankings.

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10. Lovelady (1-2), 10, 10, 9/18 at Normangee

Edited September 16, 2020 by WOSdrummer99

[WOSgrad]

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Newton does not belong on this list.  You can't have 2 losses having played just 1 game.

[gogo1734]

25 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

I’m not disagreeing with your logic, but what is their top 5 ranking based on if not the current game(s) played?

The only thing a ranking can be based on in HS football this early in a season, which is performance from the previous season. I do not disagree that any loss should move any team down some, but the competition a team plays matters when considering the rankings as well. A ranked 3A D2 team getting beaten up on by a ranked 4A D2 team shouldn't bear as much weight as playing a weaker team. If that makes sense? That's just my opinion on the subject. I also felt like the original question was taking a shot at Newton as well, which I thought was kind of silly considering, well, they're Newton. 

[WOSdrummer99]

Just now, WOSgrad said:

Newton does not belong on this list.  You can't have 2 losses having played just 1 game.

Thanks for the correction. DCTF has some splaing to do this year

[Reagan]

12 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Thanks for the correction. DCTF has some splaing to do this year

Maybe they were projecting forward!    😀

[SmashMouth]

18 minutes ago, gogo1734 said:

The only thing a ranking can be based on in HS football this early in a season, which is performance from the previous season. I do not disagree that any loss should move any team down some, but the competition a team plays matters when considering the rankings as well. A ranked 3A D2 team getting beaten up on by a ranked 4A D2 team shouldn't bear as much weight as playing a weaker team. If that makes sense? That's just my opinion on the subject. I also felt like the original question was taking a shot at Newton as well, which I thought was kind of silly considering, well, they're Newton. 

Understood. 

[Boneyard Boys]

On 9/14/2020 at 4:04 PM, Who That said:

I" hate they still gave us a lost to Jasper..! 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

On 9/14/2020 at 4:12 PM, mrtomcat said:

who gave silsbee a loss to jasper ???

Hell in that case Vidor beat Silsbee too, the 2-0 Pirates lol.

[Boneyard Boys]

1 hour ago, WOSgrad said:

Newton does not belong on this list.  You can't have 2 losses having played just 1 game.

It was a really lopsided score but I didn't know Jasper beat them so bad they had to count it twice...

[STiger85]

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

Jasper...

Wrong answer 

Correct answer would be Jasper fans

[Guest]

maybe i am wrong but i would not be shocked to see newton win vs WOS ----perhaps i am dreaming

[AggiesAreWe]

Like I said, DCTF has several teams with wrong records.

Jasper has played 1 game yet is 3-0 somehow.

Newton has played 1 game but is 0-2 somehow.

Silsbee has played 1 game but is 1-1 according to those rankings.

Matt Stepp has corrected his records reflecting the "no contest" between Jasper and Silsbee. He said getting the tech guys posting the rankings to change sometimes gets lost in the shuffle.

 

Again, I think the current rankings for this week are pretty spot on (except the inaccurate records)

[EAGLEFOREVER]

3 hours ago, Makemineaconvertible said:

So when WOS beats them by 50 are they still in the top 5? Next week vs Gilmer who will beat them by 40+ are they still top 5?

Why so butt hurt about where Newton is ranked? It really doesn't matter. Rankings don't do anything for you. Not that I am disagreeing with what you are saying.

[Makemineaconvertible]

13 minutes ago, EAGLEFOREVER said:

Why so butt hurt about where Newton is ranked? It really doesn't matter. Rankings don't do anything for you. Not that I am disagreeing with what you are saying.

Not butt hurt but have you seen them play?

[WOSdrummer99]

42 minutes ago, mrtomcat said:

maybe i am wrong but i would not be shocked to see newton win vs WOS ----perhaps i am dreaming

Wake up... its still 2020. 

Aww, well I'm gonna take a nap til New Years.

Wont be any bowl games to watch.

Dang it. 

 

[SmashMouth]

1 hour ago, STiger85 said:

Wrong answer 

Correct answer would be Jasper fans

My bad. Lol. I thought the Jasper fans were sitting in the stands and the Jasper Bulldog Varsity outscored the Silsbee Tiger Varsity. Dang. Sounds like I missed seeing those fans suit up!

[EAGLEFOREVER]

1 hour ago, Makemineaconvertible said:

Not butt hurt but have you seen them play?

No, can't get tickets. probably won't get to see them until they start selling tickets at the gate.