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Want to pick y’alls brains.   How come so many high scoring games?  Just curious if there’s a consensus of opinion as to why.

Best athletes being put on offense?

Rule changes have given offense the advantage?

New offensive schemes that DC’s haven’t figured out how to stop yet (like the initial problem with the Wishbone)?

That’s just three obvious ones.   What do y’all think?

 

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25 minutes ago, Hagar said:

Want to pick y’alls brains.   How come so many high scoring games?  Just curious if there’s a consensus of opinion as to why.

Best athletes being put on offense?

Rule changes have given offense the advantage?

New offensive schemes that DC’s haven’t figured out how to stop yet (like the initial problem with the Wishbone)?

That’s just three obvious ones.   What do y’all think?

 

Hagar, my 2 cents:  When you throw 95-98% of the time this will happen.  Receivers know where they are going and defense is in reaction mode (always been this way).   Also, it's the decision of the coaches on how they plan on playing defense against the passing teams. 

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47 minutes ago, Hagar said:

Want to pick y’alls brains.   How come so many high scoring games?  Just curious if there’s a consensus of opinion as to why.

Best athletes being put on offense?

Rule changes have given offense the advantage?

New offensive schemes that DC’s haven’t figured out how to stop yet (like the initial problem with the Wishbone)?

That’s just three obvious ones.   What do y’all think?

 

Agree with all the above; also it seems as if coaches are more likely to put the majority of their good players on offense 

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I think it's how one plays defense. For example:

Back in 1993 Silsbee played Nederland in a non district game. Silsbee running back Jay McGuire ran for a school record 454 yards rushing with 6 total TD's. He had over 600 all purpose yards in the game. Nederland QB Spurlock passed for over 350 yards in the game. Silsbee won the game, 48-44.

Several weeks later, Silsbee played Nederland in the playoffs. Silsbee played the game without their star RB McGuire because he suffered a season ending injury the week before. Silsbee decided to change their defensive philosophy of zone coverage to man coverage and blitzed just about every down. The result, 10 sacks of the QB and two INT's that led to a 34-7 Silsbee win.

It's not the offenses IMO, it's how you play defense.

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The way a coaching staff has to teach tackling has changed. With all the new rules for safety, etc. there is no more old school lead with the facemask, hit on the rise to speak of. It is now lead with the shoulders and so forth. Playing defense is hard now. Never know when you  will get a penalty for targeting or leading with the top of the head. Offenses know this and it has made tackling in space much more difficult. 

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2 hours ago, bulldog16 said:

The way a coaching staff has to teach tackling has changed. With all the new rules for safety, etc. there is no more old school lead with the facemask, hit on the rise to speak of. It is now lead with the shoulders and so forth. Playing defense is hard now. Never know when you  will get a penalty for targeting or leading with the top of the head. Offenses know this and it has made tackling in space much more difficult. 

Great point.  Receivers get almost as much protection as QB’s.  The Jack Tatum days are over.

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The rules have changed the game. Football today looks like a basketball game. Up and down the field with constant stoppages. 
Football is such an offensive game now days that the rules dictate it. Defensive holding is an automatic 1st down but offensive holding repeats the down. The longer that football is played the worse it gets!!!

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1 minute ago, Hooohead.com said:

Most teams are so depleted with talent across the board they dont do as much live action anymore. If you get 1 day of live action your risking your season when back in the day you did twice if not 3 days a week and if an injury occurred next man up. QB was the only player protected back in the 90s...

Therefore it's an offensive game now a days...

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15 hours ago, Boneyard Boys said:

If you put all your biggest, baddest and most athletic players on defense what will you have? Vidor. That’s what you’ll have, a good defensive team that can’t put up points and loses close low scoring games. 

As I posted on another thread, I’m glad the Coaches didn’t know you couldn’t go both ways when Montana Quirante played.  😄😜

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In most spread offenses the QB is a dual threat player. It is very difficult to defend the pass and also account for the QB in the run game because when the QB runs you have an extra blocker in the RB. Also by making the defense defend the entire field you create holes in the defense. Also as several have mentioned the rules do favor the offense today.

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