Referee gets slammed by Edinburg HS player after being ejected

[Bulldogpower]

Can’t say I agree with the entire team getting punished, what is this? “You didn’t bring gum for the whole class, so you can’t chew any?” 2nd grade stuff. The team gets punished for breaking the rules of football NOT breaking the law. If I go rob a bank does my family get locked up also? 

[Tiger33]

From Edinburg CISD: 

“The UIL has made it clear to Interim Superintendent Gilbert Garza Jr. that UIL would have removed the football team from the playoffs if the district did not withdraw the team... 1/2

[CardinalBacker]

1 hour ago, Bulldogpower said:

Can’t say I agree with the entire team getting punished, what is this? “You didn’t bring gum for the whole class, so you can’t chew any?” 2nd grade stuff. The team gets punished for breaking the rules of football NOT breaking the law. If I go rob a bank does my family get locked up also? 

No, but they don’t get to keep the money, either. 

[tvc184]

9 hours ago, Byrdiug said:

Horrible incident. Kid should be jailed. Kid should be expelled and removed from school. Players and coaches should not be punished because of the barbaric behavior of another 18 year old kid. Truly selfish and idiotic behavior of one student will be a stain on the school and it’s programs for a long time.  

I heard and read 2,reports that he has been arrested. 

[CardinalBacker]

It’s the basic continuance of force. 
1. unsportsmanlike... whole team loses 15 yards, automatic first down. 
2. Second unsportmanlike... whole team loses 15 yards, player is disqualified. 
3. Attacks ref.... no penalty according to you guys, because that wouldn’t be fair to the whole team. I still that a disqualification for the whole team would have been justified. 
 

To answer your question, I would have no problem if my senior kid’s season was ended because some knucklehead teammate had this meltdown. Everybody here knows that those kids are all accountable to each other... or they’re supposed to be. This kid cost those kids’ season, just like if he’d somehow played while ineligible. 

[Majestyk]

Not a happy ending for the team and community. But no mistake homeboy stepped in it.  Glad the ole ref wasn't seriously injured or kilt. At least haven't heard his injuries were serious.

[Bulldogpower]

5 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

It’s the basic continuance of force. 
1. unsportsmanlike... whole team loses 15 yards, automatic first down. 
2. Second unsportmanlike... whole team loses 15 yards, player is disqualified. 
3. Attacks ref.... no penalty according to you guys, because that wouldn’t be fair to the whole team. I still that a disqualification for the whole team would have been justified. 
 

To answer your question, I would have no problem if my senior kid’s season was ended because some knucklehead teammate had this meltdown. Everybody here knows that those kids are all accountable to each other... or they’re supposed to be. This kid cost those kids’ season, just like if he’d somehow played while ineligible. 

Making my point, the first two are RULES of FOOTBALL, I don't see where assault is listed, thats in the law of the state. What if someone in the stands attacked someone? The team gets moved back ten yards? No, the person responsible gets arrested. And the police did arrest the kid. 

[CardinalBacker]

18 minutes ago, Bulldogpower said:

Making my point, the first two are RULES of FOOTBALL, I don't see where assault is listed, thats in the law of the state. What if someone in the stands attacked someone? The team gets moved back ten yards? No, the person responsible gets arrested. And the police did arrest the kid. 

That “someone in the stands” wasn’t a player who just got two unsportmanlikes before attacking the ref who flagged him... so your example is not even close to be relevant. 
 

The kid wasn’t even arrested... just escorted from the field, not in handcuffs. Whatever else happened later. Like I said... I would have no problem with the refs disqualifying the whole team and ending the game after the assault. 
 

Everybody keeps saying that any punishment that affects the rest of the team is unjust when the kid just caused two penalties that affected the whole team. If the team receives 15 for the first, 15 and a disqualification for the second, why should the team get a pass on the third (criminal) act?

[SmashMouth]

3 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

That “someone in the stands” wasn’t a player who just got two unsportmanlikes before attacking the ref who flagged him... so your example is not even close to be relevant. 
 

The kid wasn’t even arrested... just escorted from the field, not in handcuffs. Whatever else happened later. Like I said... I would have no problem with the refs disqualifying the whole team and ending the game after the assault. 
 

Everybody keeps saying that any punishment that affects the rest of the team is unjust when the kid just caused two penalties that affected the whole team. If the team receives 15 for the first, 15 and a disqualification for the second, why should the team get a pass on the third (criminal) act?

Because he was no longer a part of the game. It would be as if somebody’s daddy ran out on the field and trucked the ref. He was ejected from the game already. 

[Majestyk]

Again, the ref wasn't seriously injured or kilt.  Just sayin.  

[SmashMouth]

Just now, Majestyk said:

Again, the ref wasn't seriously injured or kilt.  Just sayin.  

I like saying kilt too. Lol. 

[Majestyk]

Those western movies and paperbacks talkin to me.  Like that ref who wasn't kilt, once he got up he was a little weak on his pins but otherwise ok.

[Byrdiug]

I highly doubt that removing this team from the playoffs is going to deter the next deranged, moronic 18 year old from losing his mind and attacking a ref. Whether that be next week or 8 years from now. It has happened multiple times before and will happen again. The “make an example out of them” mantra does not fit in this exclusive situation.

If a kid is going to assault someone, he is not going to stop and think to himself, “I remember when Edinburg got removed from the playoffs for tackling a ref, I shouldn’t do that.” 

[Byrdiug]

5 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

He kicked the bad apple off of the team or he canceled the entire season for the rest of the team? 
 

edit: was referring to your comment of Dubois kicking player off of team for poor behavior. 

[CardinalBacker]

26 minutes ago, Byrdiug said:

He kicked the bad apple off of the team or he canceled the entire season for the rest of the team? 
 

edit: was referring to your comment of Dubois kicking player off of team for poor behavior. 

I think this kid took a punch at an opposing player on two of those occasions, but I honestly don’t remember. Definitely didn’t attack a ref, though. 
 

 

[5GallonBucket]

4 hours ago, tvc184 said:

I heard and read 2,reports that he has been arrested. 

Awesome

[tvc184]

... and the school district pulled the team from the playoffs. 

[BMTSoulja1]

11 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

Like when that kid from Silsbee jacked that kid from Jasper? Remind me what they did for punishment. Can’t remember. 

That kid was suspended like a game and a half.  

[SmashMouth]

3 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

That kid was suspended like a game and a half.  

Thx. Thought it was something like that. Didn’t cancel the season or even forfeit the game though. 

[CardinalBacker]

3 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

Thx. Thought it was something like that. Didn’t cancel the season or even forfeit the game though. 

A. Wasn’t a ref

B. Wasn’t the kid’s third consecutive infraction after a single play 

I can’t believe that we live in an era where a shortage of available officials is literally threatening our ability to have games and you guys are saying that we need to decrease the penalties teams face when their players feloniously assault officials on the field of play. 
 

Not much surprises me anymore, but this does.  I understand that the school was informed that the UIL was going to disqualify them, so the school pulled the plug first. No lie... if I’m the super or on the board and the TEAM does something so bad that it’s literally on every news source in America, I’m pulling the plug, too. 

[SmashMouth]

22 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

No lie... if I’m the super or on the board and the TEAM does something so bad that it’s literally on every news source in America, I’m pulling the plug, too. 

The kid was ejected from the game. After that (to me), he’s on his own. He is no longer a part of the equation.  I agree, the foul was very egregious. No excuses, but “the TEAM” didn’t do anything bad. The player had already been disqualified. Look into it after the dust settles and 86 the coach if he was grossly negligent by letting the kid play in the first place. Don’t let the kid play any more sports. I’m ok with that too. But don’t punish the ones who were playing by the rules. And as far as anyone learning a lesson from this, that’s a joke. It’s a group punishment for a single kid’s actions that occurred AFTER he was disqualified from the “field of play”. I know I won’t change your mind, you’re hard headed like me. I’m glad the ref is ok, and I hope that kid can get some help with his very serious behavioral problem. As far as the rest of the kids, especially the seniors who may never get to play again, they straight up got screwed. 

[Hooohead.com]

May have missed it somewhere but after the kid hit the ref did the game go on and finish or was the game called at that moment?  If the game went on then the season should have also...just my opinion.....

[purpleeagle]

What if he was a player who was a sub and never played? Kicking him out of the game or a 15 yard penalty would not mean much. UIL has right. 

[tvc184]

The forfeiture of the playoffs was not from the district committee, it was not from the referees and it was not from the UIL. The forfeit was from their own administration. It was not a punishment from any outside authority but probably from an embarrassed and rightfully disgust school board who swiftly took action. 

The arrest for assault by the police has nothing to do with the game. It is a police and district attorney matter just as any other criminal charge. If the DA doesn’t want to prosecute and simply refuses charges or reduce it to a $10 fine only in a plea deal, that is within the DA’’s prerogative. 

[Realville]

22 minutes ago, Pho Rizzle said:

This stunt has 2020 written all over it. Not defending this fool but I just want to know. 

How many of you wanted to do this to a ref this year ????😄

There’s definitely a few posters that deserve it! 😎