Guest Ozen Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Talent vs. Coach Can a football team full of talent have a successful season without a good coach? Whats your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake94 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Talent vs. Coach Can a football team full of talent have a successful season without a good coach? Whats your opinion? A talented team can make it to the playoffs without great coaching. But, once they get up against an equally or sometimes lesser talented, well coached team their chances are slim and NONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Talent will only get you by on some plays. If you don't know the play called or defense called and don't execute with enthusiasm and play with heart, you are toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingme2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Talent vs. Coach Can a football team full of talent have a successful season without a good coach? Whats your opinion? YES.A successful season can mean a number of things. If there's no chance of college ball anyway, a successful season is one where all the players enjoyed themselves. Seems like people put way too much thought, energy, enthusiasm, etc. into high school sports anyway. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 You might win a few games here and there, but not much else. I wonder what coach stewart could have done with some of the previous dayton teams, i would have like to have seen ivory durio play for stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ozen Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 GOT TO HAVE THE COACHING TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wise one Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 coaching plays a big part in a teams success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 i agree that coaching is important, but a weak team with a great coach is generally going to get beaten by a strong team with any coach. that being said, in a game with even or close to even talent levels, coaching will make all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Vs. Has-Been Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 I believe that it all comes down to heart. You have to have "heart" to want to gain the talent and win and you have to have "heart" to want to coach a team to win. With or without a great coach anyone can go as far as they are willing with a dedicated heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleacher_bum Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Sometimes the kids don't realize they are talented. A good coach can make an athlete with some skills beleive in himself. Bring out the talent, or even just put the right talent in the right spot. Give the team a chance of winning and being successful.Exhibit A:Hardin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerpirate Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 In Junior High football, talent can carry you throughout the season to a district championship. But once you hit high school football I think it is almost all about coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dav-joel Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 School districts with many high schools don't have the same Junior High up to High School cooperation. The SouthLake Carrol's can pull off running the same offense and defense from pee wee to High School. Its a chemistry that is much more than Talent or Coaching. The right coach can win most places, given time, admin. support and community support. When an excellent coach can have some control at the JH levels, then all the players of all ages are on the same scheme. Order of Importance:1. Attitude of players & committment to a work ethic2. Coaching3. Talent/AthleticismBiggest downfall in some of the schools is the talented athletes don't put the work in thinking that their talent will prevail. Basically they are lazy. Then the communities are frustrated and there is a constant turnover of coaching. Too much blame is on coach instead of work ethic at a young age. jmho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfan Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 The most important aspect of success is coaching. Of course, the coach needs parents who are also committed to winning (not just playing). Other factors such as talent, work ethics, tradition (patitan) and administrative support are also important factors. But I think it all starts with coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingme2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 The most important aspect of success is coaching. Of course, the coach needs parents who are also committed to winning (not just playing). Other factors such as talent, work ethics, tradition (patitan) and administrative support are also important factors. But I think it all starts with coach.Are we still talking about HIGH SCHOOL football? If things start with the coach, then I'm just wasting my time teaching my kids that you have to practice to be any good. Another question: If my sons can't run faster than the starting running back, is that the coach's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmwbmt Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 In high school you can't win without speed. Great coaches can give everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWolf10 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 The thing I've noticed is that, talented players if not well coach play below their ability. You could see the potential,but they are not as successful as they could be with out that good coaching. Good talented players tend to depend on their talent too much sometimes. Thats when they get into trouble. They need good coaching to keep them discipline. Use the talent to their advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wildcat 08 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Got to have good coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfan Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Are we still talking about HIGH SCHOOL football? If things start with the coach, then I'm just wasting my time teaching my kids that you have to practice to be any good. Another question: If my sons can't run faster than the starting running back, is that the coach's fault? Practice makes you better no doubt. But if you do not have a quality coach you could very well be wasting your time. And if your son isn't as fast as the starting running back a good coach probably won't be playing him as running back. A good coach will bring the best out of your kid and a poor coach can ruin him. Talent or not! If your child is an athlete their coach will most likely have more influence on him or her than you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LCM Volleyball Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Good Points!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maverick24 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Just look at Lumberton, A good coaching staff turned around a program that had been down for many years. I agree they have good Kids right now but have had them before and still was the but of everyones jokes. I will take a great Coach and average players over great players and a bad coach every day of the week!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfan Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Another example is Hardin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasduckhunter Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 KOUNTZE has had talent in the past but I have seen too many coaches come and go. A kid has to have displine in his daily life to do well. The same program every year, same coaches, and a little talent goes a long way. If a coach can see where a kid can play better he needs to move that kid. I HOPE HE CAN SEE THAT FAR AHEAD.    COACHING > Talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rleefelt Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 A good part of coaching is putting a player in a position that they can be somewhat successful. Success breeds success. To me, I think that that is the greatest role of a coach. Once they see success, then they can be motivated and coached to a level greater than they themselves believed they could achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieray Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Does anyone think that Stephenville had better athletes than LaMarque....Heck no!!! Art Briles took the talent he had and prepared with the players strengths in mind. On pure athletic ability alone, Stephenville shouldn't be 3-0 against LaMarque in title games....Also, look at SLC, they are never the biggest or fastest players. The difference is coaching!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dav-joel Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Does anyone think that Stephenville had better athletes than LaMarque....Heck no!!! Art Briles took the talent he had and prepared with the players strengths in mind. On pure athletic ability alone, Stephenville shouldn't be 3-0 against LaMarque in title games....Also, look at SLC, they are never the biggest or fastest players. The difference is coaching!!!Way way way more than coaching ------Community support, administrative support, budget $$$$$$, facilities$$$$, off season program$$, tradition,family stability, ability to control the lower grades programs and on and on and on and on. But a strong coach can DEFINITELY control alot of the above mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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