ilikecupcakes Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 if jasper wins against wo-s and they all win out the rest of the other two games.....what would happen ?!jasper would of lost to kville head to head, wo-s would of lost to jasper head to head,kville would of lost to wo-s head to head,and they would all have identical district records. two of which would have identical season records.would it then go to point differences in games ?!if so.... is that even right ? different teams match upALOT differently in certan games
AggiesAreWe Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 if jasper wins against wo-s and they all win out the rest of the other two games.....what would happen ?!jasper would of lost to kville head to head, wo-s would of lost to jasper head to head,kville would of lost to wo-s head to head,and they would all have identical district records. two of which would have identical season records.would it then go to point differences in games ?!if so.... is that even right ? different teams match upALOT differently in certan gamesYou would have tri district champs. Jasper would go Div. I as the big school, WOS would go as the #1 seed in Div. II by way of beating Kirbyville, Kirbyville would be the #2 seed Div. II.
southern-thunder Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 It will be tough for the Dogs to beat the Stangs but the question is WHAT IF?.1) season records do not matter for tie breakers just district records2) the points only count between the teams in the tie3) if it worked out the way you said all three teams would be in the play offs with Jasper going big school and WO-S going as the winner and Kirbyville as the runner up because WO-S beat Kirbyville head to head.So the points tie breaker would only be used to determine the district Champ.And Jasper is -15 to Kirbyville and could only be a + 17 to WO-S for a possible total of +2Kirbyville is +15 to Jasper and -17 to WO-S for a total of -2WO-S is +17 to Kirbyville and depending on the out come of the Jasper game could be -17 for a total of 0it would all depend on the out come of the Jasper game and how many points Jasper won by.Hope that cleared things up.
AggiesAreWe Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 District championships are not decided by points. Only the playoff seeding would the points determine. You would have tri champs in this scenerio. All three schools would recieve a district championship trophy.
southern-thunder Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 You maybe right but I dont think so. Have you read the district executive committee's rules for 21-3A for the 2007-2008 years?
AggiesAreWe Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 That has always been the case for district titles. Points only determine the playoff seeding. I have seen trophys in Silsbee's and other schools trophy cases that say co-champs or tri champs for all sports. District committee rules only speak about tie breakers involving playoff seeding or qualifying. It does not speak of district championships. Yes, I have read them.
southern-thunder Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 Well if you have read the by-laws for this districts rules for this re-alighment period then you must be right but I know that each time there is a re-alignment rules can be changed they are not always the same and tie breakers can be used for determining more than just who goes to the play-offs. just like the committee can use different numbers for the maximum number of points possible.
AggiesAreWe Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 I'll use this as an example:Silsbee and Bridge City tied for first in district vollyball with identical 13-1 records. Both teams beat each other in the head to head. Now, there is no big school, small school in vollyball, so they will playoff for the #1 seed only. According to district rules, both teams will be considered co-champs and the winner will get the #1 seeding and a bye in the first round.
southern-thunder Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 I'm not trying to argue with you but there are different rules for each sport. And personally I would rather use the tie breaker being co or tri champions is like kissing yoru sister!! LOL ;D
Hotrodg Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 The tie-breakers do indeed vary by district and alignment period.
Guest Rooster Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 I dont think Jasper will beat WOS
83_Alumni Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 I think WOS will be to much for Jasper, but hey you know the Bulldogs won't mail it in, stranger things have happened.
setxguru Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 You know the funny thing about this whole thread is that people are arguing about tie-breakers, and there is no current tie. Just my two cents!!!
Guest Silsbee88 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 You know the funny thing about this whole thread is that people are arguing about tie-breakers, and there is no current tie. Just my two cents!!!Even funnier is the fact that Jasper and Kirbyville will both have to go through Silsbee to win out, NOW THATS FUNNY. IMO Jasper cannot beat WOS this season.... ;D
redheaded stepchild Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 AggiesAreWe is exactly right in what he is saying: No district championships have ever been decided by tie-breaker systems. It would go down as a tri-championship. Points will determine playoff seeding only!!! But that scenario is a pipe dream anyway. One of those teams will have a second loss, mainly Kirbyville to HF, and probably Jasper to WOS although Jasper is capable of beating WOS.
southern-thunder Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 AggiesAreWe is exactly right in what he is saying: No district championships have ever been decided by tie-breaker systems. It would go down as a tri-championship. Points will determine playoff seeding only!!! But that scenario is a pipe dream anyway. One of those teams will have a second loss, mainly Kirbyville to HF, and probably Jasper to WOS although Jasper is capable of beating WOS.The executive committee of a district can if they so choose can vote it into thier bylaws that a tie breaker can be used to determine a district champion.And as far as this being a pipe dream that is the point of this thread it is a What If scenario.
j_dog Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 Even funnier is the fact that Jasper and Kirbyville will both have to go through Silsbee to win out, NOW THATS FUNNY. IMO Jasper cannot beat WOS this season.... ;Dhey, you may be right. you probably are right. but not many posters gave Jasper the slightest chance against HF either. the person who started this thread only said IF.
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