Impeachment

[LumRaiderFan]

4 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

For the same reason that a democratic socialist like Bernie Sanders can still pull down the same poll numbers... some people have extreme views. There’s no difference between a Bernie Bro and a Trump supporter. They both live in an imaginary world where reality is altered. 
Bernie’s guys think that you can seize 100% of profits from corporations and seize the wealth anybody who has more than the least of us and it’ll all work out peachy. Trumps loyalists believe he can poop all over people and still win every election bigly. You know... just because he’s rude and crude just means that you are a snowflake if you don’t vote for him. Logic like that. Both are delusional. 
 

I forgot my favorite Trumper claim!!! Just look at Joe Biden! He’s senile! The fact that he won is proof that there was cheating!!!!l”

I’ve read that one over and over here. 

Who did he poop over? Didn't poop on me, I prospered under Trump.

Are you a democrat that he pooped all over, if so, I can understand your rants.

I feel for guys like you, can't pick a side so you argue both.  Once again, goes back to your choice of bill clinton...he had no core values that he was willing to stand by so he changed his spots to fit whichever crowd he was in.  What a way to go through life.

[baddog]

21 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

The riot has to actually happen. 

No, it does not. Dead wrong. 

[Englebert]

17 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

For the same reason that a democratic socialist like Bernie Sanders can still pull down the same poll numbers... some people have extreme views. There’s no difference between a Bernie Bro and a Trump supporter. They both live in an imaginary world where reality is altered. 
Bernie’s guys think that you can seize 100% of profits from corporations and seize the wealth anybody who has more than the least of us and it’ll all work out peachy. Trumps loyalists believe he can poop all over people and still win every election bigly. You know... just because he’s rude and crude just means that you are a snowflake if you don’t vote for him. Logic like that. Both are delusional. 
 

I forgot my favorite Trumper claim!!! Just look at Joe Biden! He’s senile! The fact that he won is proof that there was cheating!!!!l”

I’ve read that one over and over here. 

Now that was some delusional reality laid out right there.

If Bernie had 99% non-stop negative coverage, he wouldn't be able to muster a 5% favorability rating. Same with most people of no substance.

It's funny that you try to denigrate other's posts on here after some of the whoopers you've laid out regarding Trump.

[CardinalBacker]

50 minutes ago, baddog said:

No, it does not. Dead wrong. 

Correction. It’s a whole lot easier to prove if the riot happens.  Which it did on Wednesday..... and it was worse than a riot. They tried to forcibly stop our election process by storming the chambers of congress while in session. 
 

Trump took office four years ago with control of the House and Senate, and less than four years later he sits facing a certain second impeachment this morning and a probable conviction in the Senate this time, having lost both chambers and the presidency in that short time. 
I know that y’all all still think he was the best president ever (because you keep repeating it as if it will somehow become true... kinda like baseless allegations of election fraud), but that’s an abject failure for himself and the party by any sane person. 
 
 

[CardinalBacker]

48 minutes ago, Englebert said:

Now that was some delusional reality laid out right there.

If Bernie had 99% non-stop negative coverage, he wouldn't be able to muster a 5% favorability rating. Same with most people of no substance.

It's funny that you try to denigrate other's posts on here after some of the whoopers you've laid out regarding Trump.

That’s what you guys have never understood... Trump BEGGED for negative coverage every chance he got! Whether it was by being a jerk or outright nasty to the media, up to and including his “friends” at Fox News. You can’t base your whole campaign and presidency on crapping all over the media, then cry like a little girl with a skinned knee when they don’t paint a pretty picture of you. Jesus. It’s not hard to figure out. 
 

The path Trump chose to get to the presidency was by being the outsider, the guy that Washington and the media hated. Now both trump and his followers are crying because nobody in Washington will pretend he won and the media is out to get him are the reasons that he lost. 
No, it was a horrible strategy and it backfired. 
The sad thing is that some low informed voters still think that he’s awesome. The whole episode has been a disaster. 

[Englebert]

6 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Correction. It’s a whole lot easier to prove if the riot happens.  Which it did on Wednesday..... and it was worse than a riot. They tried to forcibly stop our election process by storming the chambers of congress while in session. 
 

Trump took office four years ago with control of the House and Senate, and less than four years later he sits facing a certain second impeachment this morning and a probable conviction in the Senate this time, having lost both chambers and the presidency in that short time. 
I know that y’all all still think he was the best president ever (because you keep repeating it as if it will somehow become true... kinda like baseless allegations of election fraud), but that’s an abject failure for himself and the party by any sane person. 
 
 

But you are not sane when it comes to Trump, so your TDS inspired analysis of others is garbage.

[Englebert]

1 minute ago, CardinalBacker said:

That’s what you guys have never understood... Trump BEGGED for negative coverage every chance he got! Whether it was by being a jerk or outright nasty to the media, up to and including his “friends” at Fox News. You can’t base your whole campaign and presidency on crapping all over the media, then cry like a little girl with a skinned knee when they don’t paint a pretty picture of you. Jesus. It’s not hard to figure out. 
 

The path Trump chose to get to the presidency was by being the outsider, the guy that Washington and the media hated. Now both trump and his followers are crying because nobody in Washington will pretend he won and the media is out to get him are the reasons that he lost. 
No, it was a horrible strategy and it backfired. 
The sad thing is that some low informed voters still think that he’s awesome. The whole episode has been a disaster. 

Did Bush (both) beg for negative coverage? Did Reagan beg for negative coverage? Who doesn't understand?

[CardinalBacker]

21 minutes ago, Englebert said:

Did Bush (both) beg for negative coverage? Did Reagan beg for negative coverage? Who doesn't understand?

Great. I agree. But there WAS at least one source that was favorable to the right. Guess what? Trump crapped all over them, too, and now his loyalists are boycotting them, too, because he said to. 
 

Mark that down as another Trump failure. He managed to do what Dems couldn’t do in 25 years. He sunk Fox News, thereby eliminating the only professional source for news coverage that wasn’t geared towards liberals. 
 

Now y’all are all on Parler trying to find articles like Reagan does.  You know, the unsubstantiated rumors that he thrives on. “There were bus loads of Antifas! They brought truckloads of ballots from NY to PA! The guy in the Buffalo hat is married to Pelosi’s daughter!” You know that you’ve seen ‘em. 

[Ty Cobb]

3 hours ago, baddog said:

Shouldn’t she be removed from office?

Black privilege won't allow her to be removed from office.

[InMAGAWeTrust]

CB - you think the Trump worshippers are in a cult yet? Just curious.. 

 

[baddog]

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

Correction. It’s a whole lot easier to prove if the riot happens.  Which it did on Wednesday..... and it was worse than a riot. They tried to forcibly stop our election process by storming the chambers of congress while in session. 
 

Trump took office four years ago with control of the House and Senate, and less than four years later he sits facing a certain second impeachment this morning and a probable conviction in the Senate this time, having lost both chambers and the presidency in that short time. 
I know that y’all all still think he was the best president ever (because you keep repeating it as if it will somehow become true... kinda like baseless allegations of election fraud), but that’s an abject failure for himself and the party by any sane person. 
 
 

Not what you said. You said the riot has to happen. Video PROOF of Maxine Waters inciting a riot. No riot had to happen there.  What more do you need?

[CardinalBacker]

2 minutes ago, InMAGAWeTrust said:

CB - you think the Trump worshippers are in a cult yet? Just curious.. 

 

I hate to use the word "cult" but they are definitely removed from reality.  Just last week I saw them beat a Capitol Police Officer to death with a fire extinguisher because the President directed them to bumrush Congress and overturn the results of our Presidential election.  

"But it was a perfect speech" the soon-to-be ex-President said yesterday.  "YES!!!! PERFECT!!!!!" they all yelled in unison.  "Stop the Steal!"

"You won bigly, Sir!" they all yelled as one.  "It's all fake news!" they responded as state after state was declared for Biden.  "Everybody knows we won by hundreds of thousands of votes" Trump cried to the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia.  "Just find me 11, 780 votes... are you going to help me?" Trump begged.

"He's a TRAITOR!!!!" Trump's minions all yelled.  "He was purchased by China!  CHI-NA!!!!" they all exclaimed, with bare faces in displayed in protest of tyranny and nature, too.  

Yeah... I'm gonna go with cult.

[Ty Cobb]

1 minute ago, CardinalBacker said:

I hate to use the word "cult" but they are definitely removed from reality.  Just last week I saw them beat a Capitol Police Officer to death with a fire extinguisher because the President directed them to bumrush Congress and overturn the results of our Presidential election.  

"But it was a perfect speech" the soon-to-be ex-President said yesterday.  "YES!!!! PERFECT!!!!!" they all yelled in unison.  "Stop the Steal!"

"You won bigly, Sir!" they all yelled as one.  "It's all fake news!" they responded as state after state was declared for Biden.  "Everybody knows we won by hundreds of thousands of votes" Trump cried to the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia.  "Just find me 11, 780 votes... are you going to help me?" Trump begged.

"He's a TRAITOR!!!!" Trump's minions all yelled.  "He was purchased by China!  CHI-NA!!!!" they all exclaimed, with bare faces in displayed in protest of tyranny and nature, too.  

Yeah... I'm gonna go with cult.

That's a big cult.

[CardinalBacker]

4 minutes ago, baddog said:

Not what you said. You said the riot has to happen. Video PROOF of Maxine Waters inciting a riot. No riot had to happen there.  What more do you need?

And then I agreed with you. 

There's a huge difference between saying "get out there and ruin somebody's dinner" and encouraging people to walk down the street and attack the Capitol building in an effort to usurp our election process.   Besides that, you have no real EVIDENCE that her talk would have or did lead to anybody's actions, much less if those actions would be legal or not.  BTW, it's not illegal to interrupt someone's dinner or hassle them on the sidewalk.  It IS illegal to murder a police officer like Trump's supporters did.  

[CardinalBacker]

3 minutes ago, Ty Cobb said:

That's a big cult.

Not big enough to win an election, apparently.

 

[InMAGAWeTrust]

4 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

I hate to use the word "cult" but they are definitely removed from reality.  Just last week I saw them beat a Capitol Police Officer to death with a fire extinguisher because the President directed them to bumrush Congress and overturn the results of our Presidential election.  

"But it was a perfect speech" the soon-to-be ex-President said yesterday.  "YES!!!! PERFECT!!!!!" they all yelled in unison.  "Stop the Steal!"

"You won bigly, Sir!" they all yelled as one.  "It's all fake news!" they responded as state after state was declared for Biden.  "Everybody knows we won by hundreds of thousands of votes" Trump cried to the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia.  "Just find me 11, 780 votes... are you going to help me?" Trump begged.

"He's a TRAITOR!!!!" Trump's minions all yelled.  "He was purchased by China!  CHI-NA!!!!" they all exclaimed, with bare faces in displayed in protest of tyranny and nature, too.  

Yeah... I'm gonna go with cult.

Busted out laughing at “You won bigly, sir!” 😂😂

 

[baddog]

15 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

And then I agreed with you. 

There's a huge difference between saying "get out there and ruin somebody's dinner" and encouraging people to walk down the street and attack the Capitol building in an effort to usurp our election process.   Besides that, you have no real EVIDENCE that her talk would have or did lead to anybody's actions, much less if those actions would be legal or not.  BTW, it's not illegal to interrupt someone's dinner or hassle them on the sidewalk.  It IS illegal to murder a police officer like Trump's supporters did.  

Yeah, I was sure she would get a pass. Where is your proof that Trump incited  a riot?

[CardinalBacker]

2 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Who did he poop over? Didn't poop on me, I prospered under Trump.

Are you a democrat that he pooped all over, if so, I can understand your rants.

I feel for guys like you, can't pick a side so you argue both.  Once again, goes back to your choice of bill clinton...he had no core values that he was willing to stand by so he changed his spots to fit whichever crowd he was in.  What a way to go through life.

There's more to life than the Dow, my friend.  Maybe you're satisfied with all that has transpired BESIDES the economy (highest deficits ever, runaway spending, the loss of Republican representation in all branches of congress and the executive branch), but I'm not. 

I know that you're trying really hard to paint me into a Bill Clinton box, but that's not what I said.  I would prefer a president who was capable of working with Congress... both sides.  Not like during the last eight years.  Washington exists so that our representatives can iron out our differences. All that we've seen for years is complete gridlock, with neither side able to advance any agenda unless they are in total control.  I saw a friend post on Babin's fb page a couple of years ago... "now go up there and don't back down!  Don't give an inch!"  Really?  So how is that supposed to work?  Once a side is in complete control, they can just bludgeon the other guys until they lose a chamber, then it's 100% obstruction until somebody once again gains all of the marbles, at which time the ruling party can cram whatever they want down the other sides' throats?

Imagine a marriage where neither side would give an inch.  Imagine a business partnership where neither partner would bend any, ever.  What would happen?  Divorce, bankruptcy... utter failure.  But that's the American way of legislating for the last decade and a half.  Any capitulation is a sign of weakness, and the supporters of that legislator is hung out to dry.  It's what has gotten us to where we are... getting closer to a civil war... and Donald Trump only sped that process up.  

BTW... We all did pretty well financially during Clinton's EIGHT years in office, if my memory serves me correctly.  And since that's all that matters about Trump's presidency (prosperity), then I guess you need to ease up Clinton, too.

[CardinalBacker]

2 minutes ago, baddog said:

Yeah, I was sure she would get a pass. Where is your proof that Trump incited  a riot?

Ummmm.... the riot itself.  Or do your news sources deny that anything happened in Washington last week?

[baddog]

Just now, CardinalBacker said:

Ummmm.... the riot itself.  Or do your news sources deny that anything happened in Washington last week?

When did Trump incite it? You have no answer. 

[baddog]

Then we can blame all of the looting and rioting Waters, you know, some of her followers carried it a bit too far. 

[CardinalBacker]

Just now, baddog said:

When did Trump incite it? You have no answer. 

I've been saying for weeks that this was going to happen if Trump kept alleging that the election was stolen without any evidence.  It's completely predictable.  

But to be specific, when Trump held a rally on the morning on 1/6/2021 (as congress was counting electoral votes) and told his supporters to march on Congress and (pick any one of about fifty different inflammatory remarks that he made that morning), and then the crowd actually DOES walk down the street and do x,y, and z...... that's how you get charged with inciting an insurrection or whatever.  Watch the following clip and try to determine if it would sound like incitement to a reasonable person, especially in light of what actually happened. 

 

[baddog]

11 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

I've been saying for weeks that this was going to happen if Trump kept alleging that the election was stolen without any evidence.  It's completely predictable.  

But to be specific, when Trump held a rally on the morning on 1/6/2021 (as congress was counting electoral votes) and told his supporters to march on Congress and (pick any one of about fifty different inflammatory remarks that he made that morning), and then the crowd actually DOES walk down the street and do x,y, and z...... that's how you get charged with inciting an insurrection or whatever.  Watch the following clip and try to determine if it would sound like incitement to a reasonable person, especially in light of what actually happened. 

 

What a fake video. It looks as if Trump is talking while that is  going on. Hey, but that’s all it takes for the Trump haters. This is not convincing and is lame at best. 

[SmashMouth]

58 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

the President directed them to bumrush Congress and overturn the results of our Presidential election.  

No he didn’t. Show me where he said that. I’m not the guy that worships Trump, but he did not direct or order anyone to do what they did. Show me. 

[baddog]

I could put Watters speech over some of the riots and looting and convince some people that she incited  them.