CardinalBacker Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: No he didn’t. Show me where he said that. I’m not the guy that worships Trump, but he did not direct or order anyone to do what they did. Show me. That video I posted was just a condensed version of the things that he was telling people that morning. Trump didn't have to be standing there going "punch that cop! Now kick that one! Break that window! Now hit that one with your fire extinguisher!" Although I'm pretty sure that you still wouldn't have a problem with that, either. You can look at the things Rudolph said that morning "give them trial by combat" or the things Jr said. They all three worked together, not unlike a coach's pregame speech and the end result was the insurrection that occurred that morning. You don't have to agree. It's the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: That video I posted was just a condensed version of the things that he was telling people that morning. Trump didn't have to be standing there going "punch that cop! Now kick that one! Break that window! Now hit that one with your fire extinguisher!" Although I'm pretty sure that you still wouldn't have a problem with that, either. You can look at the things Rudolph said that morning "give them trial by combat" or the things Jr said. They all three worked together, not unlike a coach's pregame speech and the end result was the insurrection that occurred that morning. You don't have to agree. It's the truth. No it’s not. It’s another lefty pipe dream. Blame everything on Trump, even the weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: That video I posted was just a condensed version of the things that he was telling people that morning. Trump didn't have to be standing there going "punch that cop! Now kick that one! Break that window! Now hit that one with your fire extinguisher!" Although I'm pretty sure that you still wouldn't have a problem with that, either. You can look at the things Rudolph said that morning "give them trial by combat" or the things Jr said. They all three worked together, not unlike a coach's pregame speech and the end result was the insurrection that occurred that morning. You don't have to agree. It's the truth. Look. I’m not a Trump sheep. You’re dead wrong on my assessment. You can’t tell me what he said to incite the violence that came about. I don’t agree because I’m a realist. I don’t have a stick up my butt about him like you. His mouth was too big. He insulted anyone and everyone. But he can’t be responsible for the dumbarses who did what they did. When do people become responsible for their own actions? baddog, Chester86 and Englebert 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: I hate to use the word "cult" but they are definitely removed from reality. Just last week I saw them beat a Capitol Police Officer to death with a fire extinguisher because the President directed them to bumrush Congress and overturn the results of our Presidential election. "But it was a perfect speech" the soon-to-be ex-President said yesterday. "YES!!!! PERFECT!!!!!" they all yelled in unison. "Stop the Steal!" "You won bigly, Sir!" they all yelled as one. "It's all fake news!" they responded as state after state was declared for Biden. "Everybody knows we won by hundreds of thousands of votes" Trump cried to the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia. "Just find me 11, 780 votes... are you going to help me?" Trump begged. "He's a TRAITOR!!!!" Trump's minions all yelled. "He was purchased by China! CHI-NA!!!!" they all exclaimed, with bare faces in displayed in protest of tyranny and nature, too. Yeah... I'm gonna go with cult. Your TDS is in full bloom. It's funny, and saddening that you try to judge others perception of reality while you are so blinded by hate. The more you talk about Trump, the more embarrassing you get. Nancy Pelosi sounds almost logical when compared to your TDS inspired rants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: That video I posted was just a condensed version of the things that he was telling people that morning. Trump didn't have to be standing there going "punch that cop! Now kick that one! Break that window! Now hit that one with your fire extinguisher!" Although I'm pretty sure that you still wouldn't have a problem with that, either. You can look at the things Rudolph said that morning "give them trial by combat" or the things Jr said. They all three worked together, not unlike a coach's pregame speech and the end result was the insurrection that occurred that morning. You don't have to agree. It's the truth. Another one of you delusional paths from A to B. You're reasoning is absolute nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, SmashMouth said: Look. I’m not a Trump sheep. You’re dead wrong on my assessment. You can’t tell me what he said to incite the violence that came about. I don’t agree because I’m a realist. I don’t have a stick up my butt about him like you. His mouth was too big. He insulted anyone and everyone. But he can’t be responsible for the dumbarses who did what they did. When do people become responsible for their own actions? Okay... If I stand up in Tinseltown and scream "Fire!!!!" I don't get to claim "oh, shucks... I never told anybody to trample anybody." It's the same thing here. When you tell a crowd that they need to be strong, to be tough, they need to fight, and to go down there and stop them from stealing this election" and then the crown promptly goes down and fights the cops, smashes stuff, and tries to stop Congress from certifying the electoral votes.... It is on you. Did Charles Manson murder anybody himself? Nope.... but he dang sure spent the rest of his life in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 I guess when your mom told you that you could do anything and don’t let anyone get in your way, then you end up murdering 3 people, we should arrest your mother. Your analogies don’t ring true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: Okay... If I stand up in Tinseltown and scream "Fire!!!!" I don't get to claim "oh, shucks... I never told anybody to trample anybody." It's the same thing here. When you tell a crowd that they need to be strong, to be tough, they need to fight, and to go down there and stop them from stealing this election" and then the crown promptly goes down and fights the cops, smashes stuff, and tries to stop Congress from certifying the electoral votes.... It is on you. Did Charles Manson murder anybody himself? Nope.... but he dang sure spent the rest of his life in prison. You’re reaching buddy. That’s more than a reach. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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baddog Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chester86 said: I really like Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz. Let’s see what the Trump haters have to say about that clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said: Okay... If I stand up in Tinseltown and scream "Fire!!!!" I don't get to claim "oh, shucks... I never told anybody to trample anybody." It's the same thing here. When you tell a crowd that they need to be strong, to be tough, they need to fight, and to go down there and stop them from stealing this election" and then the crown promptly goes down and fights the cops, smashes stuff, and tries to stop Congress from certifying the electoral votes.... It is on you. Did Charles Manson murder anybody himself? Nope.... but he dang sure spent the rest of his life in prison. Maybe because Manson actually told them to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester86 Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 To tell you the truth, I don’t really care what they say. Having all the answers and all the moral high-ground must be exhausting. Me personally, I struggle to be a good husband, dad, employee and just do the best I can on a daily basis. Washington is not on my mind other than when they force it on us every two years at election time. I cast my vote and it’s time to move on. Socialism, anti-Christian views, higher taxes, encouraged hatred of law-enforcement and loosening of morals seem to be what the country wants. I’m sick of the pompous attitudes the politicians have. I’m sick of the double standards and I’m definitely tired of the condescension being cast toward anyone who has a divergent view point. I used to type up replies, then re-read them 3-4 times before I posted worrying and ensuring there wasn’t anything too controversial.....well not anymore. BS Wildcats, CardinalBacker, NetCat and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CardinalBacker Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Maybe because Manson actually told them to kill. Trump told them to go fight. They did. "if you don't go fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore" to quote specifically. Trump told them to go fight. They marched down the street and they did. 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up | This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up ; This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , Sept. 13, 1994, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up .) The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: Trump told them to go fight. They did. "if you don't go fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore" to quote specifically. Trump told them to go fight. They marched down the street and they did. 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up | This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up ; This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , Sept. 13, 1994, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up .) The end. Please. He didn’t say fist fight. He actually said to be peaceful. Try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: Trump told them to go fight. They did. "if you don't go fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore" to quote specifically. Trump told them to go fight. They marched down the street and they did. 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up | This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up ; This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , Sept. 13, 1994, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up .) The end. So you have never heard a politician use the word fight before. I am fighting for you, joint the fight... You are really out there on this nonsense. What's worse is that you are ok with putting the actual historically racist party in power, blaming it on Trump rather than the fools that voted for the democrats. I notice you are also easily steered, insurrection has been the liberal buzzword over the last few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, SmashMouth said: Please. He didn’t say fist fight. He actually said to be peaceful. Try again. You are mistaken. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up That's exactly one of about fifty things that he said that morning that would qualify as incitement. If I'm wrong he doesn't have anything to worry about from the impeachment proceedings. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, CardinalBacker said: You are mistaken. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up That's exactly one of about fifty things that he said that morning that would qualify as incitement. If I'm wrong he doesn't have anything to worry about from the impeachment proceedings. Lol. You are wrong and he still has plenty to worry about...the dems aren't seeking the truth here, they're out for revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: So you have never heard a politician use the word fight before. I am fighting for you, joint the fight... You are really out there on this nonsense. What's worse is that you are ok with putting the actual historically racist party in power, blaming it on Trump rather than the fools that voted for the democrats. I notice you are also easily steered, insurrection has been the liberal buzzword over the last few days. It has been a buzzword since the first one that has happened in my lifetime happened last week upon the President's instruction because he doesn't want to cede the throne. I didn't put the Dems in power. Trump did. Anybody that can't see it is blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, LumRaiderFan said: You are wrong and he still has plenty to worry about...the dems aren't seeking the truth here, they're out for revenge. I like that word. Revenge. For a party to seek revenge, they must have been wronged first. You just admitted that Trump sent his minions up Capitol Hill to threaten, intimidate, kidnap, or possibly kill members of Congress from both parties. Those guys with zip ties weren't there to do maintenance. They didn't build that gallows for the heck of it. They were chanting "hang Mike Pence." Trump is screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, CardinalBacker said: I like that word. Revenge. For a party to seek revenge, they must have been wronged first. You just admitted that Trump sent his minions up Capitol Hill to threaten, intimidate, kidnap, or possibly kill members of Congress from both parties. Those guys with zip ties weren't there to do maintenance. They didn't build that gallows for the heck of it. They were chanting "hang Mike Pence." Trump is screwed. Wrong again...not sure how you can stretch that I admitted that. The revenge is for a man that came to Washington and made your swamp heros look like fools for four years because he got more accomplished than they could ever imagine. The revenge has nothing to do with the Capitol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Wrong again...not sure how you can stretch that I admitted that. The revenge is for a man that came to Washington and made your swamp heros look like fools for four years because he got more accomplished than they could ever imagine. The revenge has nothing to do with the Capitol. All he managed to do was give the presidency and both chambers to the Dems while simultaneously getting himself impeached on two separate occasions. I'd like to point out for the record that 10 republicans joined the Dems in support of impeachment. More would have, but they were worried tha trump supporters would harm them and their families as promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, CardinalBacker said: All he managed to do was give the presidency and both chambers to the Dems while simultaneously getting himself impeached on two separate occasions. I'd like to point out for the record that 10 republicans joined the Dems in support of impeachment. More would have, but they were worried tha trump supporters would harm them and their families as promised. So what the majority does in Washington is what makes your decisions for you...got it. You are not alone...there are millions just like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: So what the majority does in Washington is what makes your decisions for you...got it. You are not alone...there are millions just like you. No, last time the impeachment was a sham... the only R support came from Mitt Romney came in the Senate. No other Rs were on board. It's long been understood that impeachment should be bi-partisan, not just the majority party coming down on the minority. That's what happened the last time, but this time there is bipartisan support for impeachment. Probably because Trump didn't just send his "patriots" to attack Dem politicians, but also attack Republicans who he felt were betraying him. He's getting his just desserts, I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, CardinalBacker said: No, last time the impeachment was a sham... the only R support came from Mitt Romney came in the Senate. No other Rs were on board. It's long been understood that impeachment should be bi-partisan, not just the majority party coming down on the minority. That's what happened the last time, but this time there is bipartisan support for impeachment. Probably because Trump didn't just send his "patriots" to attack Dem politicians, but also attack Republicans who he felt were betraying him. He's getting his just desserts, I'm afraid. Yet you still can't provide any evidence of this...other than the fight nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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