Whatever Your Opinion Of Trump Is, This Is Hard To Disagree With!

Reagan · March 1, 2021

Biden: Here's a guy with the energy and personality of a cadaver. A two time loser before having dementia, who ran the laziest campaign in history, and somehow got 11 million more votes than obama did in 2008. NOBODY with an ounce of common sense thinks it's legit!

CardinalBacker · March 1, 2021

54 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Biden: Here's a guy with the energy and personality of a cadaver. A two time loser before having dementia, who ran the laziest campaign in history, and somehow got 11 million more votes than obama did in 2008. NOBODY with an ounce of common sense thinks it's legit!

There were 213,313,508 eligible voters in 2008. There were 239,247,182 eligible voters in 2020. There were 26 million more people eligible to vote in 2020 than in 2008. NOBODY with an ounce of common sense would keep making the ridiculous accusation you making..... that Biden got 11 million more votes than Obama did 12 years ago and it's proof of fraud. In fact, Obama got fewer votes in 2012 than he did in 2008... Mostly because nobody cared about Mitt Romney.

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The election in 2020 had a fantastic turnout.... Even Trump got 6 million more votes in 2020 than he got in 2016. Is that fraud? No. Is it because he suddenly "won over" 6 million more voters? No. It's because the race was hotly contested and a lot of people who were uninterested in 2016 actually got out and voted for BOTH guys in 2020.... Biden just got more.

Go worship that golden Trump statue some more.

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Reagan · March 1, 2021

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

There were 213,313,508 eligible voters in 2008. There were 239,247,182 eligible voters in 2020. There were 26 million more people eligible to vote in 2020 than in 2008. NOBODY with an ounce of common sense would keep making the ridiculous accusation you making..... that Biden got 11 million more votes than Obama did 12 years ago and it's proof of fraud. In fact, Obama got fewer votes in 2012 than he did in 2008... Mostly because nobody cared about Mitt Romney.

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The election in 2020 had a fantastic turnout.... Even Trump got 6 million more votes in 2020 than he got in 2016. Is that fraud? No. Is it because he suddenly "won over" 6 million more voters? No. It's because the race was hotly contested and a lot of people who were uninterested in 2016 actually got out and voted for BOTH guys in 2020.... Biden just got more.

Go worship that golden Trump statue some more.

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Trump got more votes than any President in history. He won Ohio and Florida. That, in any legal sense, would dictate a win. There's no way a pitiful candidate like Joebama gets 80 million votes. Even you can't say that with a straight face!

Oh, BTW -- Biden got more? How many were illegal?! This is what I'd like to see!

bullets13 · March 1, 2021

Just now, Reagan said:

Trump got more votes than any President in history. He won Ohio and Florida. That, in any legal sense, would dictate a win. There's no way a pitiful candidate like Joebama gets 80 million votes. Even you can't say that with a straight face!

I voted for Trump, but couldn't stand the guy. 8 years ago I would've voted against him simply to vote against him. He's a blowhard. Now I've moved far enough right that I can't vote for a democrat. People who are blinded by the the orange light seriously fail to see how many people got out to vote AGAINST Trump rather than for Biden. It was a whole lot of people.

CardinalBacker · March 1, 2021

37 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Trump got more votes than any President in history. He won Ohio and Florida. That, in any legal sense, would dictate a win. There's no way a pitiful candidate like Joebama gets 80 million votes. Even you can't say that with a straight face!

Oh, BTW -- Biden got more? How many were illegal?! This is what I'd like to see!

No, actually the person who has 270 Electoral College Votes wins, not "whoever wins Ohio and Florida." Are you arguing that Trump got more of the popular vote than Biden? It's remarkable that fraud occurred in the two or three swing states that would flip the election. Isn't it crazy how zero fraud occurred in any state EXCEPT the ones that Trump needed to flip the thing? Lol. No fraud in the congressional races, either... just the presidential race. Crazy how that happened.

Joebama might be pitiful, but he bounced Trumps toupee off of the headboard bigly.

CardinalBacker · March 1, 2021

39 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

I voted for Trump, but couldn't stand the guy. 8 years ago I would've voted against him simply to vote against him. He's a blowhard. Now I've moved far enough right that I can't vote for a democrat. People who are blinded by the the orange light seriously fail to see how many people got out to vote AGAINST Trump rather than for Biden. It was a whole lot of people.

Be careful.... you're using too much reason with these clowns. If you're willing to overlook all of Trump's moral and ethical flaws, he's palatable... but a lot of good people won't overlook things like that.

Trump got 6 million more votes than he did 4 years ago... nothing to see here. Biden got 11 million more than Obama got four election cycles ago, and it's proof of fraud according to these fools.

Just wait until they figure out that Obama got more votes than Ronald Reagan.

Reagan · March 1, 2021

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

No, actually the person who has 270 Electoral College Votes wins, not "whoever wins Ohio and Florida." Are you arguing that Trump got more of the popular vote than Biden? It's remarkable that fraud occurred in the two or three swing states that would flip the election. Isn't it crazy how zero fraud occurred in any state EXCEPT the ones that Trump needed to flip the thing? Lol. No fraud in the congressional races, either... just the presidential race. Crazy how that happened.

Joebama might be pitiful, but he bounced Trumps toupee off of the headboard bigly.

Whoever wins Ohio and Florida historically gets the other swing States and enough electoral cotes to win. Plus it's not a coincidence that the fraud was committed in the swing States that Trump was winning when the polls closed. How many of the swing states shut their count down? Was it in order to go find the fraudulent votes needed? You say no, I say probably so.

Haven't totally checked the congressional races yet. But in one state I did hear there was fraud. I would venture to say that there was fraud in the Georgia Senate races.

Again, there's no sane person that can logically say Joebama won without fraud. His handlers told him to stay in the basement. We got this! And they did. This is what evil does and looks like!

But, again -- hate makes one do and say strange things!

InMAGAWeTrust · March 1, 2021

3 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

There were 213,313,508 eligible voters in 2008. There were 239,247,182 eligible voters in 2020. There were 26 million more people eligible to vote in 2020 than in 2008. NOBODY with an ounce of common sense would keep making the ridiculous accusation you making..... that Biden got 11 million more votes than Obama did 12 years ago and it's proof of fraud. In fact, Obama got fewer votes in 2012 than he did in 2008... Mostly because nobody cared about Mitt Romney.

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The election in 2020 had a fantastic turnout.... Even Trump got 6 million more votes in 2020 than he got in 2016. Is that fraud? No. Is it because he suddenly "won over" 6 million more voters? No. It's because the race was hotly contested and a lot of people who were uninterested in 2016 actually got out and voted for BOTH guys in 2020.... Biden just got more.

Go worship that golden Trump statue some more.

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Hey what do you think you’re doing man? You know these people can’t read!

baddog · March 1, 2021

Aaaah, the anti-Trumpsters spewing their garbage again and patting one another on the back. Good show. Funny how what you post isn’t even what you truly know to have happened, but such is the life of haters and trolls.

Big girl · March 1, 2021

59 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Whoever wins Ohio and Florida historically gets the other swing States and enough electoral cotes to win. Plus it's not a coincidence that the fraud was committed in the swing States that Trump was winning when the polls closed. How many of the swing states shut their count down? Was it in order to go find the fraudulent votes needed? You say no, I say probably so.

Haven't totally checked the congressional races yet. But in one state I did hear there was fraud. I would venture to say that there was fraud in the Georgia Senate races.

Again, there's no sane person that can logically say Joebama won without fraud. His handlers told him to stay in the basement. We got this! And they did. This is what evil does and looks like!

But, again -- hate makes one do and say strange things!

Trump lost, period.

LumRaiderFan · March 1, 2021

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

I voted for Trump, but couldn't stand the guy. 8 years ago I would've voted against him simply to vote against him. He's a blowhard. Now I've moved far enough right that I can't vote for a democrat. People who are blinded by the the orange light seriously fail to see how many people got out to vote AGAINST Trump rather than for Biden. It was a whole lot of people.

Can’t argue with any of this. What is sad that we have such an uninformed ignorant country of voters that will simply vote against someone because they don’t like them, giving no consideration of the consequences, when many of us knew what was going to happen, because it is.

I guess we’re gonna have to figure in the stupid voter dynamic from here on out when choosing a candidate.

Past results don’t seem to matter.

Hagar · March 2, 2021

36 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Can’t argue with any of this. What is sad that we have such an uninformed ignorant country of voters that will simply vote against someone because they don’t like them, giving no consideration of the consequences, when many of us knew what was going to happen, because it is.

I guess we’re gonna have to figure in the stupid voter dynamic from here on out when choosing a candidate.

Past results don’t seem to matter.

It’s obvious the ignorant, uninformed voters went for Biden. Nobody in their right mind would vote for a person suffering from serious dementia. Btw, a dementia so bad that his fellow Democrats are already wanting to get the nuclear Football away from him. The Dem voter is a real life example of the 1984 Book that said Ignorance is Strength. That ignorance is the strength, the backbone, of the Democratic Party. They’d been inundated for four years with “Orange man bad” by the MSM. And that MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the Left.

bullets13 · March 2, 2021

27 minutes ago, Hagar said:

It’s obvious the ignorant, uninformed voters went for Biden. Nobody in their right mind would vote for a person suffering from serious dementia. Btw, a dementia so bad that his fellow Democrats are already wanting to get the nuclear Football away from him. The Dem voter is a real life example of the 1984 Book that said Ignorance is Strength. That ignorance is the strength, the backbone, of the Democratic Party. They’d been inundated for four years with “Orange man bad” by the MSM. And that MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the Left.

Look, I don’t disagree with you. But if trump hadn’t spent the entire presidency coming off as an arrogant windbag it wouldn’t have been as easy to convince people. I 1000% believe that if trump didn’t have a Twitter account he would’ve been re-elected comfortably.

bullets13 · March 2, 2021

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Can’t argue with any of this. What is sad that we have such an uninformed ignorant country of voters that will simply vote against someone because they don’t like them, giving no consideration of the consequences, when many of us knew what was going to happen, because it is.

I guess we’re gonna have to figure in the stupid voter dynamic from here on out when choosing a candidate.

Past results don’t seem to matter.

Don’t disagree with this either. What’s funny to me is that trump is ultra-moderate. He’s basically been a Democrat his whole life. I’ve never understood the steadfast devotion to him from the furthest right OR the seething hate for him from the furthest left. I don’t think he did a bad job as president. The economy improved, he took strides to improving our military and foreign policy, and if we’re honest, he didn’t really do anything that was so ultra-right that it should’ve had the left in an uproar. But he talked too much, and made too many moderate swing voters hate him. I have a very diverse group of friends, and the ones who voted blue weren’t singing Biden’s praises, they simply hated Trump.

baddog · March 2, 2021

34 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Don’t disagree with this either. What’s funny to me is that trump is ultra-moderate. He’s basically been a Democrat his whole life. I’ve never understood the steadfast devotion to him from the furthest right OR the seething hate for him from the furthest left. I don’t think he did a bad job as president. The economy improved, he took strides to improving our military and foreign policy, and if we’re honest, he didn’t really do anything that was so ultra-right that it should’ve had the left in an uproar. But he talked too much, and made too many moderate swing voters hate him. I have a very diverse group of friends, and the ones who voted blue weren’t singing Biden’s praises, they simply hated Trump.

I think millions of people took a chance on Trump simply because they hated Hillary. They could see the evil in her eyes and she campaigned worse than a used car salesman. Trump was our John Wayne president. He didn’t take crap off of anyone and this attitude reeled people in. I admit that some of his tweets were childish, but hey, he could get people to listen to him without having a “Special” on tv. Trump put America first, protected his American people, had the best economy the country had ever seen, his foreign policies were second to none,......I’m sure I overlooked some things, but who would go against any of this? What made the left hate Trump is he stepped in their ant bed. Their path to socialism had a huge tree fall across it. Their money skimming schemes....Solyndra, the Paris Accord, and corruption in general. Look at the current stimulus package.....a very small percentage is associated with Covid relief. Lots of the money is being channeled to out of country projects; monies that can easily disappear and end up in someone’s bank account. Biden had absolutely no platform for people to vote for unless you call wearing masks a platform. I have never seen so much enthusiasm for the re-election of a president, so it is very difficult to believe that millions more people hated (and voted against) Trump.

Hagar · March 2, 2021

50 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Look, I don’t disagree with you. But if trump hadn’t spent the entire presidency coming off as an arrogant windbag it wouldn’t have been as easy to convince people. I 1000% believe that if trump didn’t have a Twitter account he would’ve been re-elected comfortably.

And again, we agree somewhat. I cringed over his big mouth more than his Twitter, but I’m not on Twit, so I’m sure I missed a lot. Imo, Man was a great President, but he just didn’t know when to shut up. I suspect his second term (had he won) would have cemented his presidential skills in history, if not his lack of personality.

Englebert · March 2, 2021

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

Don’t disagree with this either. What’s funny to me is that trump is ultra-moderate. He’s basically been a Democrat his whole life. I’ve never understood the steadfast devotion to him from the furthest right OR the seething hate for him from the furthest left. I don’t think he did a bad job as president. The economy improved, he took strides to improving our military and foreign policy, and if we’re honest, he didn’t really do anything that was so ultra-right that it should’ve had the left in an uproar. But he talked too much, and made too many moderate swing voters hate him. I have a very diverse group of friends, and the ones who voted blue weren’t singing Biden’s praises, they simply hated Trump.

I agree with your posts. But I will disagree with your opinion that Trump's "talking too much" made the moderate swing voters hate him. The media's 92% negative coverage (not to mention ignored accomplishments) (also not to mention social media's ban on anything negative towards Biden) made swing voters hate him. George Bush faced almost the same thing. Liberals hated the man. Same with Reagan. Liberals hated the man. Same with Romney and McCain. It will be exactly the same with the next GOP president/candidate. The liberal media will guide Liberals to hate him/her, no matter what that person does or says. I like that Trump fought back. I'm hoping the next GOP president fights back even harder against the biased (self-proclaimed) elitists who dictate what the Liberals think. If we had an unbiased media I have no doubt Trump would have won in an overwhelming landslide. I'm thinking at least 47 to 48 state win. And if you use Obama's geography, probably 54 to 55 state win.

LumRaiderFan · March 2, 2021

2 minutes ago, Englebert said:

I agree with your posts. But I will disagree with your opinion that Trump's "talking too much" made the moderate swing voters hate him. The media's 92% negative coverage (not to mention ignored accomplishments) (also not to mention social media's ban on anything negative towards Biden) made swing voters hate him. George Bush faced almost the same thing. Liberals hated the man. Same with Reagan. Liberals hated the man. It will be exactly the same with the next GOP president. The liberal media will guide Liberals to hate him/her, no matter what they do or say. I like that Trump fought back. I'm hoping the next GOP president fights back even harder against the biased (self-proclaimed) elitists who dictate what the Liberals think. If we had an unbiased media I have no doubt Trump would have won in an overwhelming landslide. I'm thinking at least 47 to 48 state win. And if you use Obama's geography, probably 54 to 55 state win.

Agree 100%, especially about the media. This lines up with my earlier post about the low information voters (not necessarily dumb) that are so easily swayed by flat out lies from the media. There are folks that are so ignorant of current politics that they are actually surprised by what Biden is doing, even after he’s been around for 40+ years and served as VP. It’s very difficult to get to voters that treat politics like an episode of the Bachelorette, but that’s where we are.

Hagar · March 2, 2021

2 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Agree 100%, especially about the media. This lines up with my earlier post about the low information voters (not necessarily dumb) that are so easily swayed by flat out lies from the media. There are folks that are so ignorant of current politics that they are actually surprised by what Biden is doing, even after he’s been around for 40+ years and served as VP. It’s very difficult to get to voters that treat politics like an episode of the Bachelorette, but that’s where we are.

And not just the lies, but the omission of News of a derogatory nature concerning Biden (Democrats). Their omitting the News of Hunters laptop is a prime example. And more recently, refusing to report about Cuomo having alledged sexual harassment incidents until it’s gotten so big they had to report it. Which brings me to........why are the Dems up in arms over two alledged sexual Harassment incidents, but silent on Cuomo killing thousands of the elderly in Nursing Homes? It’s analogous to, Let’s charge this guy for shoplifting - But Judge, he robbed a bank - Not important. Good grief, are all Dem politicians demonically possessed?

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