Vaccine Bad, Bullets13 a bully, (Realville's side effects thread)

[bullets13]

alright, here you go.  Post whatever you want about the vaccine.  if you want i'll come argue with you, if not i'll leave you alone to post whatever you want.  I don't want to hurt your feelings again by bullying you, so i'll leave it up to you.  This can be your safe space to be free of the bullying and tyranny of bullets13.  I deleted all irrelevant posts (both yours and mine) from the other thread on the off chance that if someone makes a relevant post over there, I want to be able to find it.  

[Realville]

13 hours ago, bullets13 said:

alright, here you go.  Post whatever you want about the vaccine.  if you want i'll come argue with you, if not i'll leave you alone to post whatever you want.  I don't want to hurt your feelings again by bullying you, so i'll leave it up to you.  This can be your safe space to be free of the bullying and tyranny of bullets13.  I deleted all irrelevant posts (both yours and mine) from the other thread on the off chance that if someone makes a relevant post over there, I want to be able to find it.  

Baby Bullets “I am going to show him thread.” Cute Speculative Thread. Triggered 😂😂

[bullets13]

12 minutes ago, Realville said:

Baby Bullets “I am going to show him thread.” Cute Speculative Thread. Triggered 😂😂

You got it, chief.  

[bullets13]

Bump.

[Realville]

Little Bron Bron is upset because he couldn’t answer the question about a link he posted that said children should get the vaccine. He is also upset because he can’t answer the question who is liable if you were to have serious medical issues after taking the vaccine. He says he done with me then starts another thread about me.😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂 Your killing me Smalls!😂

[bullets13]

8 minutes ago, Realville said:

Little Bron Bron is upset because he couldn’t answer the question about a link he posted that said children should get the vaccine. He is also upset because he can’t answer the question who is liable if you were to have serious medical issues after taking the vaccine. He says he done with me then starts another thread about me.😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂 Your killing me Smalls!😂

lol.  

[Big girl]

18 hours ago, Realville said:

Little Bron Bron is upset because he couldn’t answer the question about a link he posted that said children should get the vaccine. He is also upset because he can’t answer the question who is liable if you were to have serious medical issues after taking the vaccine. He says he done with me then starts another thread about me.😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂 Your killing me Smalls!😂

The National Vaccine Injury Compenation Program.

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[Big girl]

18 hours ago, Realville said:

Little Bron Bron is upset because he couldn’t answer the question about a link he posted that said children should get the vaccine. He is also upset because he can’t answer the question who is liable if you were to have serious medical issues after taking the vaccine. He says he done with me then starts another thread about me.😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂 Your killing me Smalls!😂

Why shouldn't children get the vaccine?

[SmashMouth]

33 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Why shouldn't children get the vaccine?

They don’t need it. Real data (science, if you will) shows COVID-19 has very little threat to children or for them spreading it if they get it. The vaccine(s) have not been tested enough to put them at undue risk.

QED: Why would you vaccinate a child for the hell of it?

[5GallonBucket]

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

They don’t need it. Real data (science, if you will) shows COVID-19 has very little threat to children or for them spreading it if they get it. The vaccine(s) have not been tested enough to put them at undue risk.

QED: Why would you vaccinate a child for the hell of it?

Why would they kill a child for the hell of it?

[Big girl]

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

They don’t need it. Real data (science, if you will) shows COVID-19 has very little threat to children or for them spreading it if they get it. The vaccine(s) have not been tested enough to put them at undue risk.

QED: Why would you vaccinate a child for the hell of it?

Who says they dont need it? I work for a world renowned hospital system. The doctors are saying something different than you. You need to find better sources.

[BS Wildcats]

31 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Who says they dont need it? I work for a world renowned hospital system. The doctors are saying something different than you. You need to find better sources.

If it is so needed, why are you,as stated by you, the only member of your family to be vaccinated?

[baddog]

36 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Who says they dont need it? I work for a world renowned hospital system. The doctors are saying something different than you. You need to find better sources.

You haven’t noticed the youngsters in the stores not wearing masks even when it was required? Same for the vaccine. You aren’t very observant are you?

[SmashMouth]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

Who says they dont need it? I work for a world renowned hospital system. The doctors are saying something different than you. You need to find better sources.

There are doctors on both sides of the fence. I guess you need to define what age child you’re talking about. Newborns? Toddlers, 1st graders? High School seniors? 
And as far as finding better sources, you can blindly follow the same people that originally said we don’t need masks then later said to double mask. The only reason I took it is because I am an at risk person. My wife and kids aren’t getting it. Imo, they don’t need it. You “do you”, and keep the needle away from my family. 

[Big girl]

58 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said:

If it is so needed, why are you,as stated by you, the only member of your family to be vaccinated?

They were not offering it to young adults at the time. Now that they are they are going to get inoculated. My husband will once he is required to see patients face to face. Right now, he is doing telephonic nursing. He doesn't go anywhere.

[SmashMouth]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

Who says they dont need it? I work for a world renowned hospital system. The doctors are saying something different than you. You need to find better sources.

Tell your world renowned doctors only 287 children have died in 17 months in the entire United States (1/1/20 - 5/12/21). And many of those were children with comorbidities. That’s straight from the CDC who, if anything, would inflate the actual numbers. That’s approx 200 per year. Not giving my child a vaccine. 

[SmashMouth]

41 minutes ago, Big girl said:

They were not offering it to young adults at the time. Now that they are they are going to get inoculated. My husband will once he is required to see patients face to face. Right now, he is doing telephonic nursing. He doesn't go anywhere.

He hasn’t left the house in 17 months?

[BS Wildcats]

3 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

He hasn’t left the house in 17 months?

Yeah, right 

[Realville]

9 hours ago, Big girl said:

The National Vaccine Injury Compenation Program.

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That is a World Renowned Wrong Answer.

Usually, drug manufacturers are liable for the safety of their products, and they spend many years developing and testing their drugs to ensure they are safe to use.

That’s not how things work in a pandemic.

Rather than years, companies such as BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca managed to develop their COVID vaccines in a matter of months. And drug regulators, who would usually demand to see the final results of large-scale testing before approving any vaccine, have been issuing temporary authorizations while testing was still ongoing.
 

That’s the nature of this situation: COVID is a killer and it spreads fast, so speed is of the essence in fighting it. Nobody in the vaccine business has thrown caution to the wind, but it is equally true that nobody has had the luxury of being quite as cautious as they might like.

Which is why, in these circumstances, the pharma companies have mostly been absolved of liability over the potential side-effects of their COVID-19 vaccines. If problems were to arise, the people affected would need to look elsewhere for compensation.

And, history suggests, claiming that compensation won’t be easy.
 

In most cases, liability would rest with the countries whose regulators issued the emergency authorizations. And the countries that accepted this fact early on—notably, the United States and the United Kingdom—are the ones that managed to conclude their negotiations with manufacturers first, giving them a headstart in vaccinating their populations.

“I presume that the risk is considered manageable [by governments] simply because these companies are profit-driven,” says Evelyn Tjon-En-Fa, the head of the Dutch dispute resolution practice at the law firm Bird & Bird. “If they don’t feel the benefits of bringing [a vaccine] into the market is worth the risk, they won’t do it.”

That’s because the pharma firms have been burned before.
 

Tjon-En-Fa points to 

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 surrounding whooping-cough or pertussis vaccines in the 1970s and 1980s. At the time, some people claimed the pertussis components in the DPT (diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus) vaccines being administered to children were occasionally causing rare but permanent brain damage.

Although the link eventually turned out to be bogus, negative publicity sparked a wave of lawsuits against the vaccine manufacturers, some of which were successful. Most U.S. manufacturers responded by withdrawing their DPT vaccines, which had earned them only low margins, from the market. The affair prompted the creation of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP), which the drugmakers fund with a levy of 75 cents on each dose of their vaccines—in exchange, they cannot be sued in state or federal civil courts if an unanticipated and serious side effect emerges.

However, the VICP is designed for routinely administered vaccines, such as standard childhood jabs or the regular flu shot. In the case of COVID vaccines, the relevant scheme is the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), which was established under the 2005 Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act.
 

The Trump administration invoked the PREP Act in February 2020, near the start of this pandemic. It gives vaccine manufacturers and distributors four years of legal protection, unless willful misconduct can be proved. And, in theory, people suffering serious injury from COVID vaccines will be able to tap the CICP for compensation.

In reality, though, the CICP—which also handles the liability for medical countermeasures against things like Ebola and anthrax—has only accepted 39 of the 551 claims that have been filed since its 2010 creation. Of those, only 

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, for a total of $6 million.

“The PREP Act is very strict,” says Tjon-En-Fa. “The burden of proof is on the claimant [who has] to show willful misconduct on the producer of the vaccine. That’s a very high threshold, and that’s the reason so little has been paid out of this fund. I think it’s too high a threshold—you have to prove state of mind.”
 

[Big girl]

5 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

Tell your world renowned doctors only 287 children have died in 17 months in the entire United States (1/1/20 - 5/12/21). And many of those were children with comorbidities. That’s straight from the CDC who, if anything, would inflate the actual numbers. That’s approx 200 per year. Not giving my child a vaccine. 

287 is too many.

[SmashMouth]

8 minutes ago, Big girl said:

287 is too many.

On average more than 2,000 children from newborn to 16 years old die in car crashes. Should we not allow them to ride in cars? In a 17 month period (same period for the 287 Covid deaths), it’s nearly 3,000 on average. Do you propose we quit allowing our kids in vehicles? Is 3,000 too many? What are the repercussions of the Covid-19 vaccines on children? Have you thought this through?

[Realville]

On 3/30/2021 at 4:49 PM, bullets13 said:

alright, here you go.  Post whatever you want about the vaccine.  if you want i'll come argue with you, if not i'll leave you alone to post whatever you want.  I don't want to hurt your feelings again by bullying you, so i'll leave it up to you.  This can be your safe space to be free of the bullying and tyranny of bullets13.  I deleted all irrelevant posts (both yours and mine) from the other thread on the off chance that if someone makes a relevant post over there, I want to be able to find it.  

Are you the Mark Zuckerberg of the political forum now? A thread was made with the title of How safe is the Vaccine? I believe anyone should be able to post the good, the bad and the ugly about the vaccine. I know my post obviously embarrassed you but I did not ask you to delete my post. Why did you delete my post without my permission? Your reasoning above is weak and pussified. I totally disagree with a lot that you say but you have the right to say it.  I don’t need a safe space from a coward like you Little Bron Bron. Tell us more about the link you posted that said children should get the vaccine or did you delete that link so no one would know how much of a fool you are when it comes to the vaccine issue?

[Realville]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

287 is too many.

On average 600,000 to 700,000 babies a year are aborted in the United States. Is that too many?

[LumRaiderFan]

17 minutes ago, Realville said:

On average 600,000 to 700,000 babies a year are aborted in the United States. Is that too many?

Facts always point out that liberalism is really a mental disorder.

A dead baby is acceptable as long as it’s a “choice”.

[Realville]

10 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Facts always point out that liberalism is really a mental disorder.

A dead baby is acceptable as long as it’s a “choice”.

Yep, Liberal Hypocrisy is a Disease for sure.