Reagan Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 If they were wrong about this -- then could they be wrong just about everything else?! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
baddog Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, Reagan said: If they were wrong about this -- then could they be wrong just about everything else?! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up CDC changes positions more than Kamala Harris at Willie Brown’s house. (Stole that) Reagan 1 Quote
Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, baddog said: CDC changes positions more than Kamala Harris at Willie Brown’s house. (Stole that) Lol, or Fake Fauci. Quote
Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 Wonder what the current Covid survival rate is for 70 years old an younger? Have to be specific for the uninformed. You know the age of the people that work in the economy that was shut down because the China Flu was so deadly. I have yet to have anyone give me the annual U.S. total deaths for the past 10 year breaking down how many people died each year. Sure would be interesting to know how the total deaths of 2020 compare to the previous 10 years. Quote
InMAGAWeTrust Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 Oh boy here come the epidemiologist experts from vidor tx Quote
Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, InMAGAWeTrust said: Oh boy here come the epidemiologist experts from vidor tx Oh boy here we go with someone who can’t answer questions because he’ll embarrass himself. Quote
InMAGAWeTrust Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, Realville said: Oh boy here we go with someone who can’t answer questions because he’ll embarrass himself. Or maybe you just ask a billion questions and I got better things to do Quote
bullets13 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Realville said: Wonder what the current Covid survival rate is for 70 years old an younger? Have to be specific for the uninformed. You know the age of the people that work in the economy that was shut down because the China Flu was so deadly. I have yet to have anyone give me the annual U.S. total deaths for the past 10 year breaking down how many people died each year. Sure would be interesting to know how the total deaths of 2020 compare to the previous 10 years. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up "During January–December 2020, the estimated 2020 age-adjusted death rate increased for the first time since 2017, with an increase of 15.9% compared with 2019, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population. COVID-19 was the underlying or a contributing cause of 377,883 deaths (91.5 deaths per 100,000)" This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Of the approximately 3,358,814 deaths that occurred in the U.S. last year, SARS-CoV-2 accounted for approximately 375,000, with only heart disease and cancer claiming a higher mortality rates, Farida B. Ahmad, MPH, of the National Center for Health Statistics at the CDC, and colleagues wrote in This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up — and, they added, Covid-19 replaced suicide as one of 2020’s top 10 leading causes of death. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up There's one for you from your favorite source written 9/1/20, showing that at that time there had already been 200,000 excess deaths in the US for 2020. Quote
bullets13 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 This chart has US deaths from 2000 to 2018. It does not have 2019 or 2020. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This has the total number of US deaths for 2019 (2,854,838). Both 2017 and 2018 had 2.8 million deaths as well. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This has the total # of deaths for 2020 at the bottom. (3,358,814) This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up The first chart shows that in 18 years the average deaths a year increased by about 385,000 total as populations increased, or approximately 21,000 a year. Deaths increased by around 450,000 between 2019 and 2020. Quote
Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, bullets13 said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up "During January–December 2020, the estimated 2020 age-adjusted death rate increased for the first time since 2017, with an increase of 15.9% compared with 2019, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population. COVID-19 was the underlying or a contributing cause of 377,883 deaths (91.5 deaths per 100,000)" This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Of the approximately 3,358,814 deaths that occurred in the U.S. last year, SARS-CoV-2 accounted for approximately 375,000, with only heart disease and cancer claiming a higher mortality rates, Farida B. Ahmad, MPH, of the National Center for Health Statistics at the CDC, and colleagues wrote in This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up — and, they added, Covid-19 replaced suicide as one of 2020’s top 10 leading causes of death. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up There's one for you from your favorite source written 9/1/20, showing that at that time there had already been 200,000 excess deaths in the US for 2020. That’s good info. How does 2020 in total deaths compare to 2019,2018,2017,2016,2015,2014,2013,2012,2011, and 2010? I know the answer to a lot of the questions I ask but I like to hear it from someone else an compare. I understand the population grows but people do die every day too. Quote
bullets13 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Realville said: That’s good info. How does 2020 in total deaths compare to 2019,2018,2017,2016,2015,2014,2013,2012,2011, and 2010? I know the answer to a lot of the questions I ask but I like to hear it from someone else an compare. I understand the population grows but people do die every day too. I finished my next post with this info likely as you were replying to my first post. I had to combine individual reports from 2019 and 2020 to a chart with deaths from 2000-2018, but the source to all three is listed. There was a SUBSTANTIAL rise in deaths in 2020 from previous years. Quote
Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 Deaths per 1,000 in the U. S. & growth rate from 1950 to 2022 and death rate by country. 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Historical Death Rate Data Year Death Rate Growth Rate 2021 8.977 1.090% 2020 8.880 1.120% 2019 8.782 1.120% 2018 8.685 1.220% 2017 8.580 1.240% 2016 8.475 1.270% 2015 8.369 1.270% 2014 8.264 1.290% 2013 8.159 0.090% 2012 8.152 0.090% 2011 8.145 0.090% 2010 8.138 0.090% 2009 8.131 0.090% 2008 8.124 -0.960% 2007 8.203 -0.950% 2006 8.282 -0.960% 2005 8.362 -0.940% 2004 8.441 -0.930% 2003 8.520 -0.330% 2002 8.548 -0.330% 2001 8.576 -0.310% 2000 8.603 -0.320% 1999 8.631 -0.320% 1998 8.659 -0.370% 1997 8.691 -0.360% 1996 8.722 -0.370% 1995 8.754 -0.350% 1994 8.785 -0.360% 1993 8.817 -0.310% 1992 8.844 -0.300% 1991 8.871 -0.300% 1990 8.898 -0.300% 1989 8.925 -0.300% 1988 8.952 0.280% 1987 8.927 0.270% 1986 8.903 0.280% 1985 8.878 0.270% 1984 8.854 0.280% 1983 8.829 -0.050% 1982 8.833 -0.050% 1981 8.837 -0.050% 1980 8.841 -0.050% 1979 8.845 -0.050% 1978 8.849 -1.230% 1977 8.959 -1.210% 1976 9.069 -1.190% 1975 9.178 -1.180% 1974 9.288 -1.170% 1973 9.398 -0.410% 1972 9.437 -0.410% 1971 9.476 -0.420% 1970 9.516 -0.410% 1969 9.555 -0.410% 1968 9.594 0.310% 1967 9.564 0.310% 1966 9.534 0.330% 1965 9.503 0.320% 1964 9.473 0.320% 1963 9.443 0.070% 1962 9.436 0.070% 1961 9.429 0.060% 1960 9.423 0.070% 1959 9.416 0.070% 1958 9.409 -0.320% 1957 9.439 -0.320% 1956 9.469 -0.320% 1955 9.499 -0.310% 1954 9.529 -0.310% 1953 9.559 -0.310% 1952 9.589 -0.310% 1951 9.619 -0.310% 1950 9.649 0.000% Quote
baddog Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Realville said: Deaths per 1,000 & growth rate and death rate by country. 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Historical Death Rate Data Year Death Rate Growth Rate 2021 8.977 1.090% 2020 8.880 1.120% 2019 8.782 1.120% 2018 8.685 1.220% 2017 8.580 1.240% 2016 8.475 1.270% 2015 8.369 1.270% 2014 8.264 1.290% 2013 8.159 0.090% 2012 8.152 0.090% 2011 8.145 0.090% 2010 8.138 0.090% 2009 8.131 0.090% 2008 8.124 -0.960% 2007 8.203 -0.950% 2006 8.282 -0.960% 2005 8.362 -0.940% 2004 8.441 -0.930% 2003 8.520 -0.330% 2002 8.548 -0.330% 2001 8.576 -0.310% 2000 8.603 -0.320% 1999 8.631 -0.320% 1998 8.659 -0.370% 1997 8.691 -0.360% 1996 8.722 -0.370% 1995 8.754 -0.350% 1994 8.785 -0.360% 1993 8.817 -0.310% 1992 8.844 -0.300% 1991 8.871 -0.300% 1990 8.898 -0.300% 1989 8.925 -0.300% 1988 8.952 0.280% 1987 8.927 0.270% 1986 8.903 0.280% 1985 8.878 0.270% 1984 8.854 0.280% 1983 8.829 -0.050% 1982 8.833 -0.050% 1981 8.837 -0.050% 1980 8.841 -0.050% 1979 8.845 -0.050% 1978 8.849 -1.230% 1977 8.959 -1.210% 1976 9.069 -1.190% 1975 9.178 -1.180% 1974 9.288 -1.170% 1973 9.398 -0.410% 1972 9.437 -0.410% 1971 9.476 -0.420% 1970 9.516 -0.410% 1969 9.555 -0.410% 1968 9.594 0.310% 1967 9.564 0.310% 1966 9.534 0.330% 1965 9.503 0.320% 1964 9.473 0.320% 1963 9.443 0.070% 1962 9.436 0.070% 1961 9.429 0.060% 1960 9.423 0.070% 1959 9.416 0.070% 1958 9.409 -0.320% 1957 9.439 -0.320% 1956 9.469 -0.320% 1955 9.499 -0.310% 1954 9.529 -0.310% 1953 9.559 -0.310% 1952 9.589 -0.310% 1951 9.619 -0.310% 1950 9.649 0.000% This was the chart I found awhile back and had trouble finding it again. 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Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 1 minute ago, baddog said: This was the chart I found awhile back and had trouble finding it again. Thanks for posting. The numbers don’t lie. I forget a lot of things now days. Tough getting old! Lol Quote
bullets13 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, baddog said: This was the chart I found awhile back and had trouble finding it again. Thanks for posting. The numbers don’t lie. you're right. 21k average increase per year in deaths from 2000-2019, 405k increase last year. Quote
bullets13 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Realville said: Deaths per 1,000 in the U. S. & growth rate from 1950 to 2022 and death rate by country. 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Historical Death Rate Data Year Death Rate Growth Rate 2021 8.977 1.090% 2020 8.880 1.120% 2019 8.782 1.120% 2018 8.685 1.220% 2017 8.580 1.240% 2016 8.475 1.270% 2015 8.369 1.270% 2014 8.264 1.290% 2013 8.159 0.090% 2012 8.152 0.090% 2011 8.145 0.090% 2010 8.138 0.090% 2009 8.131 0.090% 2008 8.124 -0.960% 2007 8.203 -0.950% 2006 8.282 -0.960% 2005 8.362 -0.940% 2004 8.441 -0.930% 2003 8.520 -0.330% 2002 8.548 -0.330% 2001 8.576 -0.310% 2000 8.603 -0.320% 1999 8.631 -0.320% 1998 8.659 -0.370% 1997 8.691 -0.360% 1996 8.722 -0.370% 1995 8.754 -0.350% 1994 8.785 -0.360% 1993 8.817 -0.310% 1992 8.844 -0.300% 1991 8.871 -0.300% 1990 8.898 -0.300% 1989 8.925 -0.300% 1988 8.952 0.280% 1987 8.927 0.270% 1986 8.903 0.280% 1985 8.878 0.270% 1984 8.854 0.280% 1983 8.829 -0.050% 1982 8.833 -0.050% 1981 8.837 -0.050% 1980 8.841 -0.050% 1979 8.845 -0.050% 1978 8.849 -1.230% 1977 8.959 -1.210% 1976 9.069 -1.190% 1975 9.178 -1.180% 1974 9.288 -1.170% 1973 9.398 -0.410% 1972 9.437 -0.410% 1971 9.476 -0.420% 1970 9.516 -0.410% 1969 9.555 -0.410% 1968 9.594 0.310% 1967 9.564 0.310% 1966 9.534 0.330% 1965 9.503 0.320% 1964 9.473 0.320% 1963 9.443 0.070% 1962 9.436 0.070% 1961 9.429 0.060% 1960 9.423 0.070% 1959 9.416 0.070% 1958 9.409 -0.320% 1957 9.439 -0.320% 1956 9.469 -0.320% 1955 9.499 -0.310% 1954 9.529 -0.310% 1953 9.559 -0.310% 1952 9.589 -0.310% 1951 9.619 -0.310% 1950 9.649 0.000% Literally at the top of your source, above your chart, meaning that this chart is not accurate at all for 2020 and 2021, because those years on the chart are not concrete numbers, but simply projections based on 70 year trends that don't factor in covid: NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus. 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Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, bullets13 said: Literally at the top of your source, above your chart, meaning that this chart is not accurate at all for 2020 and 2021, because those years on the chart are not concrete numbers, but simply projections based on 70 year trends that don't factor in covid: NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus. I understand 2021 because where not finished with 2021 yet . So they formulated this chart knowing they were inaccurate? Quote
Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 Wonder if this Doctor/Senator is correct? If he is an I personally believe he is then your huge increase in deaths are not correct. Of course there are many doctors with the same story across the country. Quote
bullets13 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, Realville said: I understand 2021 because where not finished with 2021 yet . So they formulated this chart knowing they were inaccurate? It's your source, not mine. It appears that the answer to your question is "yes." Did you purposefully ignore the big red box at the top that said "NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus". Something tells me you saw it and ignored it on purpose, because you wanted some numbers that support your viewpoint. Quote
bullets13 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, Realville said: Wonder if this Doctor/Senator is correct? If he is an I personally believe he is then your huge increase in deaths are not correct. Of course there are many doctors with the same story across the country. i admire your tenacity, no matter how misguided and ridiculous it is. over and over you say things like "I'm still waiting for someone to provide me data for death numbers for the last ten years", because you're apparently too lazy to do it yourself, or more likely, you figure if nobody takes the time to do it then you can keep claiming whatever you want. Then I spend 5 whole minutes researching, and provide those numbers, with links to all sources, which are all legitimate. Those numbers don't jive with your argument, so all of a sudden you're capable of finding your own information, because you don't like what mine says. Of course, you completely ignore a giant red box on the top of your source that clearly states that the data is inaccurate. Why? Because it's a chart based on yearly trends, not on concrete numbers, and does not factor in the covid pandemic of the last year and a half. That's literally what the giant red box says. So I copy and paste the giant red box, which states your numbers are wrong, and you counter with youtube videos from one ultra-conservative doctor/politician that is clearly downplaying the severity of the covid pandemic for political reasons (not unlike liberal politicians who exploit it to look even worse than it actually is for political reasons). The funniest part about this is the last time you asked for numbers and they were provided from reputable sources, and you didn't like how badly wrong they proved you, you linked a different youtube video from the same politician/doctor and said the same thing ("Of course there are many doctors with the same story across the country."). This would be no different than you and I having a debate about the immigration problem at the border and me linking videos from Kamala Harris saying there isn't a border problem and pretending like that's a valid rebuttal to you providing me concrete numbers from a valid source showing that vastly more illegal aliens are crossing the border now than 6 months ago. You asked for concrete numbers. Here they are: 2000-2019- on average the US had 19K more deaths a year than the year previous 2020- The US had 405K more deaths than 2019. There's no refuting that, no matter how many politically slanted youtube videos you use as "sources". InMAGAWeTrust 1 Quote
Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, bullets13 said: i admire your tenacity, no matter how misguided and ridiculous it is. over and over you say things like "I'm still waiting for someone to provide me data for death numbers for the last ten years", because you're apparently too lazy to do it yourself, or more likely, you figure if nobody takes the time to do it then you can keep claiming whatever you want. Then I spend 5 whole minutes researching, and provide those numbers, with links to all sources, which are all legitimate. Those numbers don't jive with your argument, so all of a sudden you're capable of finding your own information, because you don't like what mine says. Of course, you completely ignore a giant red box on the top of your source that clearly states that the data is inaccurate. Why? Because it's a chart based on yearly trends, not on concrete numbers, and does not factor in the covid pandemic of the last year and a half. That's literally what the giant red box says. So I copy and paste the giant red box, which states your numbers are wrong, and you counter with youtube videos from one ultra-conservative doctor/politician that is clearly downplaying the severity of the covid pandemic for political reasons (not unlike liberal politicians who exploit it to look even worse than it actually is for political reasons). The funniest part about this is the last time you asked for numbers and they were provided from reputable sources, and you didn't like how badly wrong they proved you, you linked a different youtube video from the same politician/doctor and said the same thing ("Of course there are many doctors with the same story across the country."). This would be no different than you and I having a debate about the immigration problem at the border and me linking videos from Kamala Harris saying there isn't a border problem and pretending like that's a valid rebuttal to you providing me concrete numbers from a valid source showing that vastly more illegal aliens are crossing the border now than 6 months ago. You asked for concrete numbers. Here they are: 2000-2019- on average the US had 19K more deaths a year than the year previous 2020- The US had 405K more deaths than 2019. There's no refuting that, no matter how many politically slanted youtube videos you use as "sources". So your numbers are correct and the doctor that counts the numbers that received a letter from the dept of statistics on how to record the Covid numbers falsely is incorrect. So your saying the doctor does not know what he’s doing? Is he lying? I admire your gullibility. Quote
InMAGAWeTrust Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 54 minutes ago, bullets13 said: i admire your tenacity, no matter how misguided and ridiculous it is. over and over you say things like "I'm still waiting for someone to provide me data for death numbers for the last ten years", because you're apparently too lazy to do it yourself, or more likely, you figure if nobody takes the time to do it then you can keep claiming whatever you want. Then I spend 5 whole minutes researching, and provide those numbers, with links to all sources, which are all legitimate. Those numbers don't jive with your argument, so all of a sudden you're capable of finding your own information, because you don't like what mine says. Of course, you completely ignore a giant red box on the top of your source that clearly states that the data is inaccurate. Why? Because it's a chart based on yearly trends, not on concrete numbers, and does not factor in the covid pandemic of the last year and a half. That's literally what the giant red box says. So I copy and paste the giant red box, which states your numbers are wrong, and you counter with youtube videos from one ultra-conservative doctor/politician that is clearly downplaying the severity of the covid pandemic for political reasons (not unlike liberal politicians who exploit it to look even worse than it actually is for political reasons). The funniest part about this is the last time you asked for numbers and they were provided from reputable sources, and you didn't like how badly wrong they proved you, you linked a different youtube video from the same politician/doctor and said the same thing ("Of course there are many doctors with the same story across the country."). This would be no different than you and I having a debate about the immigration problem at the border and me linking videos from Kamala Harris saying there isn't a border problem and pretending like that's a valid rebuttal to you providing me concrete numbers from a valid source showing that vastly more illegal aliens are crossing the border now than 6 months ago. You asked for concrete numbers. Here they are: 2000-2019- on average the US had 19K more deaths a year than the year previous 2020- The US had 405K more deaths than 2019. There's no refuting that, no matter how many politically slanted youtube videos you use as "sources". These KOOKs will never.. ever.. admit they are wrong. You are a much more patient man than I am. Quote
Hagar Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 Still, it’s rather disconcerting how the “facts” keep changing. As I remember, they had researchers checking how long the virus would last, and thus the high chance of catching Covid off of surfaces. Now Eureka, it’s a 1 in 10,000 shot. We’re constantly told to follow the science. If Covid has taught us nothing else, our scientist are unreliable. Some of you may disagree, but this is just my opinion. Quote
Realville Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, InMAGAWeTrust said: These KOOKs will never.. ever.. admit they are wrong. You are a much more patient man than I am. What was incorrect in the article I posted earlier Spanky? Quote
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