Reagan Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 And fired for this! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
Hagar Posted May 1, 2021 Author Report Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Reagan said: And fired for this! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up No wonder! Anybody insult Fat Albert like that needs to be fired. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂 Reagan 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 If only she were a conservative, he might have got a promotion. Reagan 1 Quote
tvc184 Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Hagar said: He should’ve got an Academy Award. Yeah, but you can’t do that in your uniform. I have the right to protest. I do not have the right to protest in my police department’s uniform. Quote
Reagan Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 9 hours ago, tvc184 said: Yeah, but you can’t do that in your uniform. I have the right to protest. I do not have the right to protest in my police department’s uniform. NFL players, and in other sports, think they do! Quote
Hagar Posted May 1, 2021 Author Report Posted May 1, 2021 12 hours ago, tvc184 said: Yeah, but you can’t do that in your uniform. I have the right to protest. I do not have the right to protest in my police department’s uniform. I know (figured/assumed). Still, it was hilarious, and made a valid point. Personally, I hope he just gets off with a hand slap. Would be interested in your “best guess” on the outcome. Could he be fired? Quote
5GallonBucket Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 13 hours ago, tvc184 said: Yeah, but you can’t do that in your uniform. I have the right to protest. I do not have the right to protest in my police department’s uniform. This is considered a protest? Quote
baddog Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, 5GallonBucket said: This is considered a protest? Cops can’t be sarcastic towards their haters, especially white cops. Quote
tvc184 Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Reagan said: NFL players, and in other sports, think they do! They are under individual contracts. Also, a team could probably fire an NFL player legally.... they just don’t want to Quote
tvc184 Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 2 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: This is considered a protest? Sure. Sarcasm to call out the stupidity of a political view. Quote
baddog Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 Funny how cops can’t apply their right to free speech, but are called on to protect people who want to apply theirs. This country is nuts. Quote
5GallonBucket Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 56 minutes ago, tvc184 said: Sure. Sarcasm to call out the stupidity of a political view. I don’t find any of it political. now media and the stupidity of Lebron has tried to make it political. it’s more about procedure/protocol to the situation Quote
tvc184 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 4 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: I don’t find any of it political. now media and the stupidity of Lebron has tried to make it political. it’s more about procedure/protocol to the situation It doesn’t matter what you wish to call it. The police cannot make personal opinion comments in while in their department uniform. CardinalBacker 1 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, tvc184 said: It doesn’t matter what you wish to call it. The police cannot make personal opinion comments in while in their department uniform. I understand that. I m around LEOs on a daily basis (in uniform) and I hear personal opinion in “small talk” a lot of the time. IMO it’s because this guy used media to share it and the fact he was spot on so it was viewed nation wide. I just hope it doesn’t cost him his job. Quote
tvc184 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said: I understand that. I m around LEOs on a daily basis (in uniform) and I hear personal opinion in “small talk” a lot of the time. IMO it’s because this guy used media to share it and the fact he was spot on so it was viewed nation wide. I just hope it doesn’t cost him his job. It is absolutely because he put it out to the public in the media. Small talk can I also get you in trouble if someone records your statement and it becomes public. It is called conduct unbecoming or conduct that might shed a bad light on the police agency. Many or most police agencies (and many private companies) have rules they say you could not have a picture on your Facebook page in your uniform. The rules also states that if you’re making political statements or opinions or anything of that nature, you cannot identify the agency that you work for. An officer has a right to free speech but he does not have a right to make his agency look bad. That is why most people in such public professions that want to make political statements, do so under a disguised profile. A Walmart employee has the right to his opinion also. He still can’t wear a Walmart smock on a video and make a comment that makes Walmart look bad without facing consequences which will likely be termination. Quote
Hagar Posted May 2, 2021 Author Report Posted May 2, 2021 13 hours ago, tvc184 said: It is absolutely because he put it out to the public in the media. Small talk can I also get you in trouble if someone records your statement and it becomes public. It is called conduct unbecoming or conduct that might shed a bad light on the police agency. Many or most police agencies (and many private companies) have rules they say you could not have a picture on your Facebook page in your uniform. The rules also states that if you’re making political statements or opinions or anything of that nature, you cannot identify the agency that you work for. An officer has a right to free speech but he does not have a right to make his agency look bad. That is why most people in such public professions that want to make political statements, do so under a disguised profile. A Walmart employee has the right to his opinion also. He still can’t wear a Walmart smock on a video and make a comment that makes Walmart look bad without facing consequences which will likely be termination. Not trying to be confrontational, just curious. If to do this, he’d gotten a Security Guard uniform, and used his own car with a fake mike, would he still be subject to consequences? I suppose the answer may depend on his Dept rules, but say it was someone in your Dept. Quote
SmashMouth Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 Just for context: If a school teacher is seen in a Facebook post drinking alcohol, that teacher can face termination...even if it appears on someone else’s post. Hagar 1 Quote
Hagar Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, SmashMouth said: Just for context: If a school teacher is seen in a Facebook post drinking alcohol, that teacher can face termination...even if it appears on someone else’s post. Ridiculous. I could understand if smoking a joint, but alcohol is legal. I’d much rather they’re having a drink than teaching counter culture. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
tvc184 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Posted May 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Hagar said: Not trying to be confrontational, just curious. If to do this, he’d gotten a Security Guard uniform, and used his own car with a fake mike, would he still be subject to consequences? I suppose the answer may depend on his Dept rules, but say it was someone in your Dept. It isn’t the opinion/joke/statement, it is the ability to link it to a police agency. And yes, department rules but conduct unbecoming has a far reach. Hagar 1 Quote
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