Hagar’s Ramblings

[baddog]

20 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

Actually I wasn’t discussing pro or con assisted suicide. 

I was talking about the fact that he intentionally broke the law. He had to be charged or they effectively end the law.

Scenario: Any hot topic law 

State: We absolutely will not pass such a law. (Gambling, Assisted Suicide, Marijuana, etc.)

Person Objecting In Public Statement: I don’t care about your stinking law, I am going to start by (opening a casino, start killing people, open a store front open air marijuana store, etc.)

State: Okay, we will not enforce that law then.

If you could negate any law simply by making a public statement against or for any law and then doing it, there would be no laws.

THAT is only what I meant about agree/disagree. I was pointing out that you said he should not have been charged and I think the state had absolutely had no choice but to charge him. To do otherwise would be a de facto repeal of their own law.

I am neither for nor against assistant suicide. It is a rare topic where I am not sure of my opinion.  

Its obvious I misinterpreted your post. I’m so used to being countered it has become second nature. I see your point about his being charged. He got convicted because he gave the last patient the injection himself. He was acquitted several times before.

My belief is that if a doctor can use his medical education to take the innocent life of a perfectly healthy fetus, then he should also be granted the right to use his services to aid in assisted suicide for the terminally ill. That’s an argument for another thread. I don’t want this to become an abortion thread. We have enough of them (not that it doesn’t need to be continually mentioned) but that’s where I stand.

[Hagar]

Yep, assisted suicide would require a whole thread/Forum?.  When an animal is in severe pain it’s normal practice to “put him down”.  Because of moral/religious reasons, we don’t do that with humans.  No doubt many have wrestled with this conundrum on a personal level.  I pray I’m never confronted with it, and if the medical community is allowed to prescribe enough pain medication to alleviate the pain, it’ll reduce the problem for most.

This will end my discussion on this and I as baddog suggest, any further thoughts on it, I’d appreciate it if you would please start a thread.  

[Hagar]

So what’s up?  I haven’t spouted any gems of wisdom lately.  Tonight I’ll talk about religion, which for me is Christianity.  I became an “official” Christian (baptized) at 30.  My wife of 8 years at the time, had joined/baptized into the Catholic Church some 5 years earlier.  She was raised in Church of Christ, but was not enamored with it, nor was I as I visited it with her.  No reflection on it, just not for us.  I believe in Catholicism, but not as the “one and only”.  As a Priest once said in his Homily, “the important thing is to be a good Christian.  If there’s a stumbling Block for you in Catholicism, try one of the Protestant denominations” (a great Homily that I wish other Priest & Protestant Preachers would embrace).  Anyway, back to religion.  It’s been a great support for me as I’ve traveled through life.  What do atheist fall back on when confronted with life’s great obstacles?  There’s nothing that I’m aware of, while I can fall back on my Lord and Savior.  He (they’ve) been, and still are, a comfort to me.  When put in perspective, God’s sacrifice of his Son is hard to believe.  Again, as one Priest said, we’re little more than pissants to God, yet he put his son through suffering for our salvation.  Why?  Because as unworthy as we are, he loves us.  I’m thankful for his love.  For Jesus’ sacrifice.  When I say the Lord’s Prayer, I impose my forgiveness of others.  When we pray, we shouldn’t just say the words but mean what we’re praying.

I hope I haven’t offended anyone with my post here.  Not my intention.  I only wanted to share my thoughts and why I’m happy to be a Christian.  I hope some of you share my love, and get the comfort I get from it.

God Bless all of you.  I consider you friends in Christ.

[SmashMouth]

14 hours ago, Hagar said:

So what’s up?  I haven’t spouted any gems of wisdom lately.  Tonight I’ll talk about religion, which for me is Christianity.  I became an “official” Christian (baptized) at 30.  My wife of 8 years at the time, had joined/baptized into the Catholic Church some 5 years earlier.  She was raised in Church of Christ, but was not enamored with it, nor was I as I visited it with her.  No reflection on it, just not for us.  I believe in Catholicism, but not as the “one and only”.  As a Priest once said in his Homily, “the important thing is to be a good Christian.  If there’s a stumbling Block for you in Catholicism, try one of the Protestant denominations” (a great Homily that I wish other Priest & Protestant Preachers would embrace).  Anyway, back to religion.  It’s been a great support for me as I’ve traveled through life.  What do atheist fall back on when confronted with life’s great obstacles?  There’s nothing that I’m aware of, while I can fall back on my Lord and Savior.  He (they’ve) been, and still are, a comfort to me.  When put in perspective, God’s sacrifice of his Son is hard to believe.  Again, as one Priest said, we’re little more than pissants to God, yet he put his son through suffering for our salvation.  Why?  Because as unworthy as we are, he loves us.  I’m thankful for his love.  For Jesus’ sacrifice.  When I say the Lord’s Prayer, I impose my forgiveness of others.  When we pray, we shouldn’t just say the words but mean what we’re praying.

I hope I haven’t offended anyone with my post here.  Not my intention.  I only wanted to share my thoughts and why I’m happy to be a Christian.  I hope some of you share my love, and get the comfort I get from it.

God Bless all of you.  I consider you friends in Christ.

A deep heartfelt thanks for your post. It serves as a reminder to me (and hopefully others) of the gifts we’ve been given through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and our responsibility to share Him with others. Thank you. 

[WOSdrummer99]

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

A deep heartfelt thanks for your post. It serves as a reminder to me (and hopefully others) of the gifts we’ve been given through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and our responsibility to share Him with others. Thank you. 

You have a way with words that I've always admired brother.

Im gonna pencil u in for speech writer. And @Hagar can be my minister of truth, because ^that^ was it.

Thank you both.

[Hagar]

2 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

You have a way with words that I've always admired brother.

Im gonna pencil u in for speech writer. And @Hagar can be my minister of truth, because ^that^ was it.

Thank you both.

I’m honored (I think, lol).

[Hagar]

I’ve tried to make you younger folks aware of some of the trials and tribulations of old age you have to look forward too.  I saw this written on a bathroom wall many years ago so you know it’s a gem of wisdom.

You can beat it on the urinal, whack it on the wall, but in your underwear the last drop will fall.

Sad but true.  Always a problem but old age takes a minor problem and turns it into a flood, lol.  Someone really needs to put a small roll of toilet paper by urinals for us to absorb the remnants, with a garbage bag underneath.  It’s a disgusting post about a disgusting problem.

😳😜🤬🤪🤦

[Hagar]

CBS Evening news reported on scammers taking millions (billions?) from senior citizens.  One called this affluent lady pretending to be a Govt agent who had her transfer hundreds of thousands of dollars into accounts, ostensibly to catch a thief.  The reporter said seniors are more trusting of the government - that’s when my lower jaw hit the floor.  Why in the cornbread hail would seniors trust them?  This Senior doesn’t.  Anyway, this once affluent lady is now broker than the Ten Commandments.

So have you ever wondered how many scams/scammers are out there?  How many potentially scam calls do you get in a week?  Five?  Ten?  Most of us get that many.  Your extended car warranty.  Your student loan.  Pay Pal account.  Etc.  etc.  etc.  So please fellow posters, beware of all this bs.  Being a Scamming victim is not exclusive to seniors.

[baddog]

7 hours ago, Hagar said:

CBS Evening news reported on scammers taking millions (billions?) from senior citizens.  One called this affluent lady pretending to be a Govt agent who had her transfer hundreds of thousands of dollars into accounts, ostensibly to catch a thief.  The reporter said seniors are more trusting of the government - that’s when my lower jaw hit the floor.  Why in the cornbread hail would seniors trust them?  This Senior doesn’t.  Anyway, this once affluent lady is now broker than the Ten Commandments.

So have you ever wondered how many scams/scammers are out there?  How many potentially scam calls do you get in a week?  Five?  Ten?  Most of us get that many.  Your extended car warranty.  Your student loan.  Pay Pal account.  Etc.  etc.  etc.  So please fellow posters, beware of all this bs.  Being a Scamming victim is not exclusive to seniors.

I get texts about wanting to purchase my property. I always say $9,000,000 and you can have it. It’s awhile before I get another one. 

[Sugarbear]

43 minutes ago, baddog said:

I get texts about wanting to purchase my property. I always say $9,000,000 and you can have it. It’s awhile before I get another one. 

Yeah, I get emails and text about the same thing. But, you are right if they give me $9 mil.  I might have to give in. It sounds about right.  

[tvc184]

I have been getting some fairly clever scams. I got an email last week for what appeared to be an official UPS website. It said they have a package of mine and they knew it was not to my address so click the link to confirm.

If they know it is not my address, why don’t they just delivered to my house? I have an online account with them like many people and anytime I order from Amazon or some other company, I always get updates from that company. L

Other texts and emails are similar saying that my order was messed up and I need to click on a link to correct it. Problem is that I have no account with some of those companies. I guess if you send 10,000 spam emails to people that appear to be from Walmart, UPS, Kohl’s, Amazon (about 75% of the public?), etc., you will certainly hit a few people that actually have those accounts.

[Hagar]

Remember the documentary show Doomsdayers (I forget the real name).  Anyway they spent a lot of time talking about storing food & supplies.  I’ve heard many joking about it. Might have done so myself but……now with all the shortages, should we all be doing it?  I think so. I won’t but I should.  I can see it coming.  Gas/diesel shortages - meat/food shortages - energy (electricity) outages. We already often see empty shelves.  We’re not far from the Doomsday scenario now.  Anyway, something to think about folks.  Don’t ignore it out of hand.  

[Hagar]

The Uvalde shooting has created quite a bit of discussion.  Most of it uselessly blaming/defending guns.  Why uselessly?  Second Amendment cements gun ownership.  The unique words in that Amendment, “shall not be infringed” ensures gun ownership.  Banning certain type guns is useless.  As tvc184 pointed out, in a situation like Uvalde a 9mm Glock would be a better weapon, so banning “assault” weapons (whatever your description of one is) would have no effect.  And one of the worst shootings, at West Virginia, one of the main weapons was a .22 pistol.  Imo, based on facts/history, the problem is society not guns.  The societal changes took years to create and would take years to correct if society was so inclined.  To put it simply, our current situation has two choices - we take away our freedoms and make our country safe via a Police State, or keep our freedoms and have the inevitable dangers associated with them.

These are just the opinions of an old man rattling.  I hope most of you can keep yours on the Political Thread.  But if you see a glaring error in my post, please point them out to all of us.

[WOSdrummer99]

1 hour ago, Hagar said:

These are just the opinions of an old man rattling. 

Thank you

"A single conversation across the table with a wise man is better than ten years mere study of books."

~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

[Hagar]

4 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Thank you

"A single conversation across the table with a wise man is better than ten years mere study of books."

~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

Not sure I can be identified as a “wise man”, but I appreciate your post.

[tvc184]

I can think of two mass shootings off the top of my head where a rifle really made a difference. In perhaps most of the mass shootings, a handgun would be the weapon of choice for mobility, the caring of ammunition, concealability, within its range just as deadly, etc.

The two exceptions off the top of my head are the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas and the five officers shot and killed in Dallas. Those were standoff murders where the shooter was a good distance away and used the long range capability of a rifle. In a case like the Mandalay Bay, a pistol would have still done a lot of damage but not quite as significant as the A.R. 15. That could have been just as many victims however more of them would have been survivable probably. On the other hand if he would’ve been firing a suppressed 9 mm pistol, he could have hit thousands of people and no one would even have a clue what was happening.

In the Dallas incident, a handgun could have been very deadly from the range he was using it however he could not target nearly good enough with a handgun. Firing  into a crowd would have been deadly but he was specifically targeting police officers.

As the FBI statistics show, about 5 to 10 times more people are killed every year with hands, feet and personal weapons held such as knives or baseball bats. In 2019 as an example, I believe 364 people were killed with a rifle from all incidents combined. Almost 3000 were killed with personal weapons. Let that sink in while complaining about rifles specifically. Out of 15,000 murders a year, a little over 300 are with rifles. Yet what is in the news all the time… Got a ban those evil rifles because they are doing so much damage. That alone tells you it’s about a control agenda and not about saving lives. 

[Hagar]

13 hours ago, tvc184 said:

I can think of two mass shootings off the top of my head where a rifle really made a difference. In perhaps most of the mass shootings, a handgun would be the weapon of choice for mobility, the caring of ammunition, concealability, within its range just as deadly, etc.

The two exceptions off the top of my head are the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas and the five officers shot and killed in Dallas. Those were standoff murders where the shooter was a good distance away and used the long range capability of a rifle. In a case like the Mandalay Bay, a pistol would have still done a lot of damage but not quite as significant as the A.R. 15. That could have been just as many victims however more of them would have been survivable probably. On the other hand if he would’ve been firing a suppressed 9 mm pistol, he could have hit thousands of people and no one would even have a clue what was happening.

In the Dallas incident, a handgun could have been very deadly from the range he was using it however he could not target nearly good enough with a handgun. Firing  into a crowd would have been deadly but he was specifically targeting police officers.

As the FBI statistics show, about 5 to 10 times more people are killed every year with hands, feet and personal weapons held such as knives or baseball bats. In 2019 as an example, I believe 364 people were killed with a rifle from all incidents combined. Almost 3000 were killed with personal weapons. Let that sink in while complaining about rifles specifically. Out of 15,000 murders a year, a little over 300 are with rifles. Yet what is in the news all the time… Got a ban those evil rifles because they are doing so much damage. That alone tells you it’s about a control agenda and not about saving lives. 

We agree 100% there’s an agenda.  And silly me, I thought the 2nd Amendment to be relatively iron clad.  What do I read this morning?  MSNBC has a column arguing there is no Constitutional right to own a gun.  No doubt the Left will now focus on overturning DC vs Heller (2008) to 1- get rid of guns, and 2- payback for the potential overturning of Roe vs Wade.  What scares/concerns me most, Imo this goes way passed simply politics. 

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[Separation Scientist]

9 hours ago, Hagar said:

And silly me, I thought the 2nd Amendment to be relatively iron clad.  

Laws, and the United States Constitution simply do not matter to the Dims.

They routinely wipe their butt with the US Constitution. 

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, Separation Scientist said:

Laws, and the United States Constitution simply do not matter to the Dims.

They routinely wipe their butt with the US Constitution. 

The Constitution is an inconvenience to democrats.

[Hagar]

Watching The Stand (for the umptenth time) and heard again the quote from Yeats, “Things fall apart when the center cannot hold”.  I liked the quote when I first heard it, before I knew it was from Yeats.  Hearing it now it takes on a hold new significance.  Add another line from the show/poem (The Second Coming), “And what rough beast, it’s hour come round at last, slouches toward Bethlehem to be born”.  I’m not sharp enough to fully understand what Yeats was getting at but what little I do understand scares me.  The main reason, imo, our center is no longer holding.  Biden and his Merry Band of half-wit Loons are destroying the center.  Of course it started several decades ago, but this current administration have just about completed the coup de grace (grac).  Still, I suspect there’s worse to come.  Can’t picture the Anti-Christ appearing as a senile, blithering old man who can’t string together a coherent sentence.  I do think he will appear during my grandchildrens lifetime.  The stage is pretty well set.  The pieces seem to be coming together, but heck, like all before me I’m probably wrong.  Odds are I am so don’t sell the house & run to the hills.  But there’s one preparation you can, and should do - prepare your soul for eternal life.  People who think “the end of the world” is coming turn to religion.  What we should all remember, “the end of the world” happens daily to millions of people.  When someone dies, essentially that’s the “end of the world” for them.  Hope each of you do this.

[tvc184]

I can’t agree with this.
 

It’s coup de grâce.

[Hagar]

On 6/1/2022 at 1:03 PM, tvc184 said:

I can’t agree with this.
 

It’s coup de grâce.

Hey, even great minds are susceptible to taking different forks in the road (love Yogi’s idea, “If you come to a fork in the road, take it).  Be a dull world if we agreed on everything.

[Hagar]

Here’s another many will probably disagree with, I think they should reinstitute the Draft, with changes. Make the Draft for virtually everyone with any exceptions being rare.  Immediately after graduation you go in, but cut the active time.  Formerly you were Active for two years and in the reserves for 4 more years.  Make Active ?? Months or one year, then reserves.  You’d start following HS graduation.  It doesn’t take a genius to know that you have more loyalty to something “if you have skin in the game”, not to mention the positive residual benefits, discipline, physical fitness, being a part of something, etc, etc. 

I’ve thought this for many years and back then I’m 100% sure it would’ve been effective.  Based on what has happened to/in society, now I’m not so sure.  Now we have homosexuality doubling each generation.  We have many who question their gender.  Why?  This is not just a US problem, but appears to be…….an evolutionary problem.  Really weird since these things have historically taken centuries to happen.  Even the Chinese leaders are questioning the masculinity of their males.  If it’s happening in the US & China, I’ve got to believe it’s happening around the world, perhaps to a lesser degree?

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[Hagar]

Tomorrow is Fathers Day, so Happy Father’s Day to all us Dads.  Lost my Dad in 1990 at 79 years old. Still miss him.  Have read in books, and seen in movies, about sons trying on their “old man”.  Never used that term referring to my Dad, and never, ever, thought about throwing down with him.  First, he never gave me a reason, and secondly, I had to much respect for him to ever throw a punch.  Maybe he was unique, but I hope not.  I hope most kids had the same relationship with their parents as I did.  They’re saying one of our big problems now is kids without fathers.  Saddest thing of all.  Not only for the kids, but for guys who could father children and not love them.  For normal people it’s a special love that exceeds all others.  

[Hagar]

My son sent me this, as he, like his Dad, is a connoisseur of steak.  I prefer mine charbroiled but still, hard to mess up this beautiful piece of meat.